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New JetBlue Routes With RJ's?  
User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3010 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 7871 times:

What are some of the bets on cities JetBlue will serve with their new RJ's? It was mentioned here at GSP that we would be one of the cities when the RJ order was announced, but who knows? Anyone have any concrete info??


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User currently onlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6756 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7848 times:

Before anyone says it.. I will clarify...

The E70/E75/E90/E95 are not RJ but rather mainline jets (even if other airlines use them as Express aircraft).. the RJ are the E35/E40/E45..

Now, I will give 10 guesses for new E90 destinations not currently served...

RIC, RDU, ORF, JAX, PHL, MHT, BWI, CLT, BDL, BNA



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User currently offlineBlackhawk144 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7745 times:

Well, I will always hope that they do some kind of BOI-JFK flight. I'm sure they could easily fill a 190 on the route.

But I doubt it.

Anthony


User currently offline707guy From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7717 times:

Heard from one of their pilots that they will bring the E170's to CLE.

707guy


User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6098 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7660 times:

ERJ170: Thank you for correcting him before he gets flamed by the E190/170 fans! Though this topic seems to come up every month! But I'll give it a chance since the search option stinks on A.net
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707guy: Is B6 getting the E170? From my understanding (which can be corrected) they are only getting the E190. Cleveland does seem to be a likely choice for a E190, though it may be lost to CAK with the way things run in NE Ohio lately.

ASSFO



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User currently offline707guy From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7629 times:

Yeah - E170/E190 whatever it takes....  Smile I couldn't remember which one they ordered. The pilot I talked to said that when they "get the RJ's" they'll be coming to Cleveland.

User currently offlineCltguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7622 times:

When do those jets start arriving at jetBlue?

User currently onlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6756 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7580 times:

Quoting 707guy (Reply 5):
Yeah - E170/E190 whatever it takes.... Smile I couldn't remember which one they ordered. The pilot I talked to said that when they "get the RJ's" they'll be coming to Cleveland.

To clarify.. jetBlue is getting the Embraer EMB190XR jets.. supposedly arriving end of 3rd to 4th quarter...



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User currently offlineGeorgiabill From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 577 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7579 times:
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I also read that Jetblue would also be flying the E190 from JFK to Bos

User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7555 times:

I honestly expect they will chose CAK over CLE for the simple reason that CAK would not only draw from CLE it would also draw from PIT and even CMH as well.


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User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4242 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7465 times:

Now, I will give 10 guesses for new E90 destinations not currently served...

RIC, RDU, ORF, JAX, PHL, MHT, BWI, CLT, BDL, BNA


Interesting guesses, ERJ170. I'm not sure I agree with PHL and MHT as these are already highly active WN stations. PHL is obviously a "hub" type focus city for Southwest and MHT is arguably too close to Boston (where B6 is already).

I'd add Portland, Maine to the list though. And perhaps some more midwest cities... it is my understanding that their E190s will have quite a range (I'm not sure about BOI-JFK though!). Certainly anywhere east of the Missouri River could be a consideration!



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User currently offlineGoCOgo From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7444 times:

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 9):
CAK would not only draw from CLE it would also draw from PIT

According to Mapquest,
Pitts. to CAK: Total Est. Time: 1 hour, 59 minutes Total Est. Distance: 119.17 miles

Pitts. to CLE: Total Est. Time: 2 hours, 10 minutes Total Est. Distance: 134.61 miles

11 min. isn't really that much time. CLE could draw from PIT just much as CAK. Plus, PIT could eventually have it's own B6 service, as could CMH. It wouldn't be wise for an airline to bank on drawing pax form other areas, when they might just be drawing from themselves in the near future.

Of larger concern is what kind of deal CAK will offer B6, and will CLE even come close to matching it.



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User currently onlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6756 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7406 times:

Quoting Richierich (Reply 10):
PHL is obviously a "hub" type focus city for Southwest and MHT is arguably too close to Boston (where B6 is already)

Didn't Neeleson state MHT in his example of cities the E90 could/would travel to?



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User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4646 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7404 times:

I'd look for the smaller cities in FL, and the cities in the N.E. with little LCC service. So id say JAX, DAB, SRQ, SAV, MYR, PWM, and ill say BTV gets the 190's in exchange for frequency. Thats my pick for round 1.


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User currently offlineGeorgiabill From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 577 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7393 times:
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In the Boston Globe after Jetblue announced a major expansion of flights from Boston to the westcoast. The article mentioned that Jetblue would be using their E190's Bos to JFK and possibily MHT JFK as well. However I agree that PVM would be an excellent E190 route for Jetblue. I wonder if they would add additional flights between BTV and JFK with the E190's?

User currently offlineMrocktor From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1668 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7334 times:

Although not likely any time soon, the E170 would be just the right tool should jetBlue decide to attack the network carriers on all fronts. The E190 itself is a move away from the "cherry picking" model, the E170 would be the next step if B6 wants to become a "NG legacy" carrier - a company that does what all the others are failing so miserably at.

Not a serious conjecture, just food for thought.

mrocktor


User currently offlineJFKviaPHX From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7314 times:

What about GYY? It's close to Chicago and there is no congestion.

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26376 posts, RR: 76
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7287 times:

Quoting Blackhawk144 (Reply 2):
Well, I will always hope that they do some kind of BOI-JFK flight. I'm sure they could easily fill a 190 on the route.

The only problem would be getting back from JFK with headwinds

Quoting 707guy (Reply 3):
Heard from one of their pilots that they will bring the E170's to CLE.

CLE is likely, but with E190s as B6 is not getting E170s.

BTW, since when is a 100 seat plane an RJ? Seriously, the E190 is the same size as a DC-9, which no one calls an RJ.



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User currently offlineBOS2LAF From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7265 times:

Quoting JFKviaPHX (Reply 16):
What about GYY?

LMAO, thats a good one, you made my day.

I'm not going to mince words, so I apologize in advance if I offend anyone, but Gary is the ghetto. I think B6 would much rather hold their breath waiting for ORD or MDW than going into GYY.


User currently offlineCumulonimbus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7262 times:

I have heard from an employee that BWI is one of the first routes.

Mike


User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7264 times:

Why not PIT, the only JFK service we have is a DL CRJ 200 once a day.

User currently offlineNtspelich From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 764 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7252 times:

A higher up at work was telling me how the state can't wait for us to leave the gates that we currently hold on the C pier in order for B6 to possibly begin flight to BWI. The feeling that I got from them was that because of that we'd be holding on to them until it was no longer economically viable.

NTS



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User currently offlineNucsh From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7250 times:

I consulted a pilot who flies for B6, and he seemed pretty sure that CLT would be getting a 190XR.


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User currently offlineHawk44 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 759 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7216 times:

First routes will be JFK-BOS $100 r/t

Hawk44



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User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3288 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7207 times:

Quoting 707guy (Reply 3):

I didn't realize B6 pilots were involved in route selection or marketing. In my experience, any time you hear a crewmember telling you where the airline will be flying to next, it's usually the place theyd like to see the airline fly to. Very rarely does it ever have any credibility.

FL has 3x daily CAK-LGA service, who would want to fly to JFK? CLE is going to protect CO at all costs, why would they let B6 in to hurt the CLE-EWR and CLE-LGA monopolies that CO enjoys? Unless the powers that be at CLE suddenly see the light, there's no credible reason to think B6 will be coming in any time soon.


25 Ssides : AUS and SAT are also said to be near the very top of the list.
26 Flyer62 : PWM will be getting the E-190s. not sure when but fairly soon once the new jets come online. PWM would also benefit with the JETBLUE A-320 as well. BT
27 Nycfuturepilot : Everyone seems to be focusing on routes out of JFK, what about some routes out of LGB?
28 ERJ170 : As far as I know, LGB is slot restricted and full.. therefore, no new LGB unless some other flights are exchanged.. same with BUR, ONT.. If anything,
29 Post contains images Mikey711MN : And before anyone else says it, I will clarify... ERJ170 should be referred to as EJ170. -Mike
30 ERJ170 : I know.. I wanted to be renamed EMB170 but I would have to cancel this account and open another one.. and everyone already loves/hates me as ERJ170..
31 Richierich : If anything, I would say "how about some routes out of OAK".. Sorry, ERJ170 - I'm not trying to pick on you. I believe JetBlue had made it known that
32 ERJ170 : No worries RichieRich.. I wasn't stating any notions of E190 based out of OAK (although there probably will be some at some point I believe).. What I
33 Post contains images N766UA : You mean 22? As far as CLE, I actually think it's a good possibility. We have alot more potential for a New York route with people connecting than CA
34 PSU.DTW.SCE : TOLtommy, Your words are so true, so true. Everyone heards a employee say something and takes it for the truth. Seriously, we discuss this on a weekly
35 TWA902fly : Well i want to make some guesses too YUL YYZ ORD JAX BNA DFW IAH DTW CMH IAD (from JFK) TWA902
36 Galapagapop : MHT will not happen seeing as there is no space right now gate wise, the only way you'd see B6 there is if US or UA went under and WN did not take all
37 PanAm330 : SYR will be one of the first, I believe. SYR has performed well, but we'd be much better off with 6x E190 rather than 3x A320. Also, don't forget that
38 NWADC9 : CLE, DTW, PIT, and IAD.
39 AADC10 : None of the LAWA (Los Angeles World Airports) airports have slot restrictions, which include ONT and LAX and two without commercial service, Van Nuys
40 NorthwestEWR : What about SAT or AUS ? The only NS flights to NYC are COs 2 daily 737s to EWR
41 N1120A : The E190s would not be doing those transcons, because they don't have the range or the seat-mile cost to do them It is nowhere near actual field capa
42 EMBQA : I wanted to be renamed EMB170 It is....just look at the data tag attached to the tail.
43 Lowecur : SYR will definitely get the 190, but I doubt they will go with 6 flts per day as JFK is still slot restricted from 3-8pm until 2007. They may get 4 f
44 Kaputt : ORF, JAX, and CLT will be my guesses. My inside source at ORF said that they have added in a new jetway because that is where jetblue will go. dont kn
45 Georgiabill : MHT is to add three new gates this year. This will expand the B gates to 6. Also several gates are under utilized. This doesnot mean MHT will get Jetb
46 Post contains images JetBlueAtJFK : DTW, ORF, JAX, ORD, STL, BOS (from JFK) ALso I think BUF/ROC/SYR to maybe MCO/TPA/PBI. I think maybe PBI b/c in FLL they need more gates so why not PB
47 DAYFL : How about DAY! Forget CMH, CVG and IND. Come to DAY and you can draw from all three areas. To much competition at those three airports to deal with. C
48 Airline7322 : What would be the advantages/disadvantages of establishing a E190 base at IAD? Could the A terminal be reconfigured for E190's if Flyi goes belly up (
49 KULatICT : Couple years ago, in an article from Aviation Week, someone from JetBlue mentioned that the reason to get RJ is to be able to access to cities that ca
50 Spirit MD-80 : How about flights from San Juan I have heard that they want to expand in the Caribbean. That would be a great aircraft for the Islands from San Juan.
51 Post contains images FLAIRPORT : What is the range on those planes? NEELSON! How dare you...its Neeleman That's what they said when jetBlue started. Need I say more? Now my guesses w
52 Post contains images ERJ170 : It's so much of a catch, I"m still trailing behind.. Now: To get myself out of this obvious jam I got myself into... I was not stating any E190 would
53 FATFlyer : SNA has a form of "slots". But it is also not run by LAWA. It is Orange County operated. BUR has a space problem with gates.
54 EMBQA : The Embraer 190's will be operated on the east coast....not out west. They will support several new cities and feed to current bigger JetBlue cities.
55 MAH4546 : More like why not MIA. jetBlue has not been secret about their future South Floridal plans for MIA, and have publicly said that if they can't find mo
56 Coronado : I wonder if Jet Blue will look at picking up some used MD 87 RJ,s some B717 RJ's . Maybe they may even pick up some of the 30 DC9' RJ's that NWA is pa
57 Galapagapop : I've heard the new gates at MHT will go to FL and some possibly to AA . From what I've heard, some AE 145's from JFK and some AA/AE MAAD Dogs and E135
58 MIA : They should do TLH. If Delta can pull off TLH-JFK, Jet Blue should be. There is construction at the terminal so somebody is adding service to TLH soon
59 MDW22L31C : Would it be nice to see Jet Blue take on the Southwest's point to point routes IN California with RJ's. ONT-SMF ONT-OAK ONT-SJC ONT-LAS ONT-PHX and BU
60 PSU.DTW.SCE : JetBlue WILL NOT go to DET over DTW. DET is a disadvantage over DTW. DET is in a crap area, with a limited runway with a terminal thats been vacant fo
61 TOLtommy : Flairport - You took my statement out of context. When I said "who would want to fly to JFK", it was presented in the context that CO has very frequen
62 Eva744 : Try ALB, you hobos. ALB is perfect for jetBlue flights.
63 Nycfuturepilot : what about MCI, AA is pulling out of the LGA-MCI leaving only CO and midwest and i think most people would rather take B6 on this route
64 Lightsaber : Not to mention the E190 has more range! Sigh... but NIMBY's are tougher to move than a runway! While I agree the E190's will start on the east coast
65 707guy : I was only mentioning what I heard - I didn't say that just because a pilot said it that it was fact...boy PSU - you need to relax a little there....
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