FoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2809 posts, RR: 5 Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4222 times:
Not sure if I'd call Surinam a "Latin airline."
"South American," perhaps, but Surinam has historical and linguistic ties to the Netherlands, rather than Spain or Portugal.
In any event, LAN Chile also operated the 747 in the pastt:
Erikwilliam From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 2152 posts, RR: 13 Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4170 times:
If I´m not mistaken, in Brazil, only Varig operated the 747, and if not mistaken again, the -200, -300 and -400
Quoting Kavanagh (Reply 3): But i want to know wich airlines operates the 747 on present days.
None in Brasil.
Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 4): "South American," perhaps, but Surinam has historical and linguistic ties to the Netherlands, rather than Spain or Portugal.
then Brazil wouldn´t have to be called Latin COuntry, but world country, since we have every kind of human race in here, we just speak Portuguese, but the mix in the country is worldwide.
Let´s just assume from the geographical point ok?!?!?
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MANTEC From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 57 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4144 times:
I believe that the now defunct VIASA did have a 747 but I can't remember if it was PAX or freight.
I'm sure one of our Latin American friends will oblige.
Pipo777 From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 186 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4077 times:
Quoting MANTEC (Reply 7): I believe that the now defunct VIASA did have a 747 but I can't remember if it was PAX or freight.
I'm sure one of our Latin American friends will oblige.
Tango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3726 posts, RR: 31 Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4057 times:
Quoting MANTEC (Reply 7): I believe that the now defunct VIASA did have a 747 but I can't remember if it was PAX or freight
The 747 pictured in VIASA colors was operated on lease from World Airways on a seasonal basis for a number of years. Although VIASA operated N749WA (registration was retained during the lease) in all-pax configuration during peak seasons, the aircraft was a highly versatile -273C version which could be configured as all-pax as used by VIASA, combination pax/cargo with pallets carried on the main deck of the rear fuselage, or in all-cargo. Cargo pallets/containers could be loaded through a main deck cargo door on the port side of the aft fuselage as well as straight-in through the nose, which swung up for loading.
Waterpolodan From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1649 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4042 times:
Interesting thing to note, the middle picture of the avianca 747 landing in miami features the same Delta aircraft in the background that was the center of a pretty long thread debating whether it was a 707, a convair, or a DC8 from a few months back...
Kavanagh From Chile, joined Nov 2000, 127 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3963 times:
ok...
So, actually only AEROLINEAS ARGENTINAS SOUTHERN WINDS and SURINAM AIRWAYS operates the 747 in LATIN AMERICA (OK FOR THOSE WHO ARE SENSITIVE: I MEAN FROM MEXICO TO THE SOUTH, INCLUDING THE CARIBBEAN, CENTRAL AMERICA AND SOUTH AMERICA)
thanks for the others posts
Ghost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5130 posts, RR: 53 Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3909 times:
According to some information Taesa from Mexico flew a B747 [ignore the version] in Asia. But apparently it was all white and it only had Taesa logos on the inside. Someone else knows something else?
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MANTEC From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 57 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3739 times:
Thank you Pipo777 and Tango- Bravo for the information. I flew with Viasa a couple of times and was saddened to learn that they are no longer in business.
I just hope that Avensa and Aeropostal continue the good service for Venezuelan aviation
Chiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 18 Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3678 times:
Quoting MANTEC (Reply 15): I just hope that Avensa and Aeropostal continue the good service for Venezuelan aviation
Avensa is gone.....but there are rumors that Aeropostal might use a 747 for CCS-MAD starting this summer after termination of the UX-codeshare agreement. That would be really great !!!
Luisde8cd From Venezuela, joined Aug 2004, 2517 posts, RR: 34 Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3638 times:
Quoting Chiguire (Reply 16): but there are rumors that Aeropostal might use a 747 for CCS-MAD starting this summer after termination of the UX-codeshare agreemen
:O Really? where did u hear that?
Viasa we miss you!. Good times will return after Chavez is gone!
LVZXV From Gabon, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 44 Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3481 times:
AV was the first LatAm airline to operate the 747, -100 and -200 variants, but they left the fleet 15-20 years ago if I'm not mistaken, and I think they totalled 3 or 4.
RG operated 3 -200s, diverted from a Libyan Arab order in 1985, followed by 5 -300s (2 were Combis) and for a bried period in the early '90s, 3 -400s, which are now operating for Garuda and Air New Zealand if I'm not mistaken.
LA leased in Aer Lingus's EI-BED for a very brief period in the '80s, a -100 variant. A few years ago, I was almost certain I'd seen a picture of a LAN -400 (in the '80s colours), but it could well have been a fake.
Surinam Airways did indeed lease an ex-KLM 747-300 last year, PH-BUW if I´m not mistaken, which has since become PZ-TCM.
However, AR remains the longest serving 747 operator in Latin America, having introduced the type in 1976/7. A total of 10 -200s, 1 -SP and 2 -400s have flown for AR, of which 3 -200s and 2 -400s remain, with another 2 -400s on order for the middle of the year. It's nice to see that, in spite of all Argentina's economic turbulence of recent decades, the Jumbo is on the verge of completing 3 decades of faithful and uninterrupted service in Argentina.
Another milestone achieved by Argentina last Christmas was in becoming the first and thus far only Latin American country to boast 2 747 operators, when A4 took delivery of theirs. Sadly though, the future of this duality looks uncertain, with A4 in serious trouble over the cocaine "shipment", cancelling flights and with all further 747 deliveries on hold. Nonetheless, I was able to catch a flight on this smart looking Classic from MAD-EZE last week, and on my birthday at that.
Pipo777 From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 186 posts, RR: 2 Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3435 times:
Quoting LVZXV (Reply 20): AV was the first LatAm airline to operate the 747, -100 and -200 variants, but they left the fleet 15-20 years ago if I'm not mistaken, and I think they totalled 3 or 4.
Like Monteycarlos said, it was VIASA the first LatAm airline to operate the 747...VIASA started operating the 747 in April of 1972, they dry-leased the aircraft from KLM and was named "The Orinoco"
Also, VIASA was the first LatAm airline to fly the DC-10-30 in 1974...also leased from KLM...
RCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4290 posts, RR: 13 Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3381 times:
Avianca´s 747 fleet was delivered in 1976 and it was the first latin airline to operate 747s continuously. They were returned in 1991-92 and the fleet consistd of 4 of them.
Luisde8cd From Venezuela, joined Aug 2004, 2517 posts, RR: 34 Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3358 times:
Quoting Pipo777 (Reply 21): Like Monteycarlos said, it was VIASA the first LatAm airline to operate the 747...VIASA started operating the 747 in April of 1972, they dry-leased the aircraft from KLM and was named "The Orinoco"
Woah, that's just 3 years after the 747s launch! Oh man those were the times when Venezuela was so prosperous I wish I could've lived those years. People flying to Miami just to do their groceries....
Viasa we miss you!. Good times will return after Chavez is gone!
Orion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3315 times:
Is the largest aircraft in the Avianca fleet the 762? Surely the national airline of the densley populated Columbia can support a larger type. Routes to Madrid for instance could surley support a 777 or even 747?
25 Bogota: The largest aircraft in AV is the 763, but due to the altitude of BOG the 762 is the one capable on doing non-stop operation to Europe. Larger aircraf
26 Bongo: Avianca had more than 4. Here's some of their regs: HK-2000 HK-2300 TF-ABW HK-2980X N-9664 EI-CEO HK-2400X HK-2910X
28 RCS763AV: The name ColOmbia has no translation at all, Columbia is incorrect.
29 RCS763AV: They were never operated at the same time, it was always 4 of them and after the MAD crash, 3. No, Avianca was the first, Viasa´s plane was only ope
30 B757200: Come on, we're not talking about flying the 747 during peak seasons or in a regular basis. We're just saying who was the first Latin American airline
31 Arcano: Precisely, VIASA was the first. Peak season or not it adventaged AV for a couple of years. You can tell AV was the first airline to paint an "A" and
32 Luisde8cd: ehhh no lo creo amigo. I don't think so buddy. It was Viasa the first Latin American airline to OPERATE the 747. That jumbojet was baptised "El Orino
33 B752fanatic: Dominicana De Aviacion flew the 747, for a few years, they had it. (1980's). Perhaps the only Caribbean Airline to operate this a/c.
34 RCS763AV: If you read well in my post (reply ·22) AV was the first airline to operate the 747 CONTINUOSLY, yes Viasa leased it for like some months, but AV´s
35 AirAmericaC46: So what are the routes flown by all the Latin American 747s? Aeroposta 747-100 EZE-MIA 80s--- What is the IATA code? A4 747-200 EZE-MAD; any charter f
36 PPVRA: I flew with an RG 747 (probably -300) to FRA in 1989. RG 747s have also seen service to MIA. Not aware of any other routes though... Cheers, PPVRA
37 Pipo777: You can say whatever you want, but Viasa was the first Latin American airline to fly the 747...that's a fact.
38 Luisde8cd: You failed to quote the part of my post that says: "AV might have been the first to operate the jumbo year round if that makes you happy...., but it
39 RCS763AV: Hey...whatever with the bloody Viasa/Avianca thing.... AV 747s were flown on the following: BOG-MAD-CDG BOG-MAD-LGW BOG-MAD-FRA BOG-MIA BOG-LAX BOG-JF
40 Avianca: also LIM-BOG-CCS-MAD-CDG-FRA for example
41 AM744: AR EZE-LIM-MEX-LAX during 80's and early 90's
43 RCS763AV: Also forgot AV operated 747s on the BOG-SJU-MAD route.
44 PPVRA: Don't know if you guys noticed but it's actually a -200 series, not a -300. Cheers, PPVRA
45 Argento: When AR received the only 747 SP in 1980-81 ,it make a the first non-stop flight from EZE to FCO ,a distance that the 747-200 can not fly.I do not kno
46 RICARIZA: The only thing I know. Avianca still exists, "Alive and kicking", VIASA does not, thats the real FACT.
47 B757200: Nobody states the opposite. What's the purpose of your post, by the way?
49 TACAA320: Was the Av's 747 involved in a tragic accident in MAD around 15 years ago?
50 RCS763AV: Ummm....no offense but no one´s talking about that. Yes, it was a 742 that came from CDG. (flying CDG-MAD-BOG)
51 Luisde8cd: Correct me if I'm wrong but was't that route CDG-MAD-CCS-BOG instead? I think there were many Venezuelans on board who were flying to CCS...
52 Pipo777: From your post, I can see that's the only thing you know...
53 Monteycarlos: Yeah and the point is? Avianca didn't suffer the hardships that VIASA did. If thats you're attitude why do you sound so envious of them?
54 RICARIZA: I know, I know, I just wanted to get that out of my system. My apologies for that "incoherent" post.
55 RICARIZA: Nice to have such an impact.. good to know..
56 Monteycarlos: And? When you say something stupid you should expect to have an impact.
57 Luisde8cd: Very cool huh? only 7 posts here and you've already made a negative impact. Keep up the good work !
58 Latinplane: Calm down, Venezuelans and Colombians. Just like in real life, you guys always find every little excuse to get at each other. "My toy is bigger than
59 Kavanagh: wow!!! I just made an inocent question, about what latin airlines are actual 747´s holders. The answer is loud and clear: AEROLINEAS ARGENTINAS SOUTH
60 Britmex: Regarding the 747 in Mexico, there were also plans from TAESA for a 400 to do some charters from Europe to Mexican resorts. The plans were scrapped wh
61 Hardiwv: Anyone knows which airport in Latin America receives the greates number of B747 operations? MEX should get a daily LH, AF and KL, correct? GRU gets th
62 PPVRA: Well, AR has a few B747s so I guess EZE is number one in the region as far as 747s go. Cheers, PPVRA
63 SOUTHAMERICA: No. AF serves MEX daily with 772s, and operates 4 additional weekly flights on 744. MEX also sees 4 weekly 744 services from BA, that are often incre
64 Hardiwv: You are correct! EZE is number one in 747s operations because of AR's fleet - and they still get a daily LH B747 and 5 x week BA B747. So I think aft
66 Lan_Fanatic: Although it is correct, it was quite confused when I read the first line of your post. I think it is usual to assume that LH has 2 daily flights to G
67 SOUTHAMERICA: No, indeed you're right. I absolutely forgot the about the return legs, which logically count as different departure/arrivals as well. Anyway, return
68 Hardiwv: You are correct: it is a tie (24 x 24) because in fact JA operates 3 x week flights to GRU and not 4 x week as I stated in my previous reply [RG oper
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