Zvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 65 Posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2013 times:
Let's assume that the B747Adv goes ahead and Boeing replaces the B737NG before replacing the B777-300 and B747.
I can see two possible strategies for Boeing:
1) wait for Airbus to announce an A320 replacement first, so that Boeing can refine their plans in response, or
2) move quickly, before Airbus have a chance to develop composite fuselage technology, so that Airbus are forced to respond with a derivative, as was the case with the A350.
Is 2) plausible? Could Boeing develop a B737NG replacement with a composite fuselage and bleedless systems in parallel with the B787-9? If so, could Airbus respond with a composite fuselage design?
Drerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4906 posts, RR: 9 Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2006 times:
Wow--the NG is still young we are looking at nearly 20 years before the first 737NGNG flies. I believe Boeing made a comment that they will begin development no sooner than 10 years or so.
DeltaWings From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 1289 posts, RR: 19 Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1985 times:
If Boeing goes ahead with a 737 replacment with 787 technology rather soon-lets say before the 747Adv- then Airbus will be in major trouble bc:
1) Airbus is too busy with the A380 and A350 at the moment
2) Airbus needs to replace the A300 before they go ahead with another new line
3) They will have to wait for the A380/A350 breakeven to have the money
But if Boeing is smart, it may be a clever thing to do.
~DeltaWings
[Edited 2005-03-30 16:36:38]
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A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9074 posts, RR: 13 Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1912 times:
I've read the same what Drerx7 already mentioned. IIRC Boeing will focus on the 737 replacement after the 787/747Adv. I also agree with what DeltaWings said, if Boeing is smart they may want to announce a 737/A320 replacement aircraft sooner than later. It will probably take a minimal investment because Boeing can use the technologies of the 787 to create an entire family of new aircraft types, incl. the 737. But this can also be said for Airbus. Unlike what DeltaWings said, Airbus may have to invest more in a new aircraft but once everything is defined and proven Airbus can also apply the same technology in an all-new aircraft family, like Boeing can do with the 787. If the technologies used in the A380 and A350 have proven themselves, Airbus can make an entire family of aircraft based on this technology.
So Airbus may well be bussy with the A380 and A350 now, but if they become a success, we can expect an entire new family of Airbus aircraft, just like what Boeing may well do once the 787 has proven itself.
The B787-3 and B787-8 are already 3 meters shorter than the next shortest 8-abreast airliner (A330-200). I think anything smaller will be single-aisle.
HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58 Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1845 times:
Quoting Zvezda (Reply 6): The B787-3 and B787-8 are already 3 meters shorter than the next shortest 8-abreast airliner (A330-200). I think anything smaller will be single-aisle.
Art From Lebanon, joined Feb 2005, 2937 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1788 times:
Quoting Zvezda (Thread starter): can see two possible strategies for Boeing:
1) wait for Airbus to announce an A320 replacement first, so that Boeing can refine their plans in response, or
2) move quickly, before Airbus have a chance to develop composite fuselage technology, so that Airbus are forced to respond with a derivative, as was the case with the A350
Supposing that Boeing does not launch the 747ADV this summer. That's the end of that particular story, isn't it? Wouldn't that free up a lot of design personnel and make a few billion $ available, enhancing the attraction of option (2)?
Zvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 65 Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1736 times:
Quoting Art (Reply 9): Supposing that Boeing does not launch the 747ADV this summer. That's the end of that particular story, isn't it? Wouldn't that free up a lot of design personnel and make a few billion $ available, enhancing the attraction of option (2)?
Perhaps. Or it might cause Boeing to decide to develop a replacement for the B777-300 and B747 before a replacement for the B737NG. After all, the B737NG is not so old and currently competitive with the A320.
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