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How Many B707s Pax/cargo Left?  
User currently offlineJAM747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 550 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3445 times:

Does anyone know how many Boeing 707s are still flying as commercial pass or cargo? I have seen DC-8s still flying as cargo but the never seen 707s. However I have only been flown to a few U.S east coast airports and airports in the Caribbean and Brazil. Maybe in some other parts of the world 707s survive.

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User currently offlineAeroWeanie From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1610 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3388 times:
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User currently offline727200er From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3241 times:

Don't forget that many 707s were purchased by the US Air Force. They needed spares for the KC135 program. Besides as much as I like the 707 the DC8 is in general a better freighter.


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User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3185 times:

Quoting AeroWeanie (Reply 1):
Besides as much as I like the 707 the DC8 is in general a better freighter

The DC-8 did seem to hold up better, seems a little tougher frame to me.



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User currently offlineJAM747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 550 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3153 times:

Quoting 727200er (Reply 2):
Besides as much as I like the 707 the DC8 is in general a better freighter.

I believe the design of the DC8 made it easier to to be available in stretched versions . I think I read that once in Wings Magazine. It is one reason the DC8 out lasted the 707 in number still in service because the long DC8 were better utilised for cargo.


User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4358 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3103 times:

I think the 707 and DC-8 originally were quite comparible in economics and toughness, but the situation changed from 1981 onwards. In the economic downturn and high gaz prices then, both noisy types were almost worthless and the majors wanted to get rid of them as soon as possible. In case of the 707, the USAF made good use of the airlines parking them to buy the best ones up, use engines and other parts for their KC-135s and then scrap them.

The best and newest DC-8s, the 60s series, were adopted in a reengine program which made the 70s as economical as any 70s and 80s airplane type again so this explains why these are still around.

The 707 won as a passenger carrying aircraft, while the DC-8s passenger days are already over for 10 years. The DC-8 is still a frontline freighter though.
But then if you take the military variants of the 707, the E-8s and AWACSes and VIP aircraft in account, there are around more then you think (and then I don't mention the KC-135 variant which is a different aircraft, even while the youngest frame is 40 years old, 2/3rds are still in service!).



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