Deltaamtrak058 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 93 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2791 times:
Do DAL 764's have PTV's? I just flew on one not too long ago and where the PTV is suppose to go there is a plastic cover. Will this a/c type eventually have PTV's? The Business Elite Cabin of the 764 has them. Thanks in adv.
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Foxecho From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 736 posts, RR: 18 Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2776 times:
The plan was there at one point, but with all the cuts it was not deemed feasable to put PTVs in coach just yet...just a minor correcton, 764s have a First class cabin, not a Biz Elite (which admittedly would be nice) its the only first class product with PTVs.
OttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2656 times:
It would be nice to have a BE cabin in the 764. When the 764 began running South American routes, and started running ATL/CVG-HNL flights, I made the mention that it seemed very logical to put a BE cabin in, as ATL-HNL is longer than ATL-CDG.
The answer I got was somewhat expected. While Delta would like to put a BE cabin for comfort, the time to do it and cost are not of an advantage at this point. But more importantly, is the 764 was bought as a replacement for the L-1011, and was needed for long haul, HIGH LEISURE travel. Basically, they were saying, "We see that we could do this, but doing so would take out First Class seats, it would take out Economy Class seats, and since we can make more money on this airplane running it to Hawaii as we do, its more logical to keep in a current domestic configuration."
I understood that, otherwise they would have given Delta's L-10's the BE cabin when it was first introduced as well.
Frugalqxnwa From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 565 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2644 times:
No, the 764s do not have PTVs, and the screens they do have are not very visible to some seats. I much prefer having a PTV, especially on long flights like the ones I took to Hawaii on the 764 in January. Oh well, at least I could keep the $2.00 headphones.
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I think only the 777s has this in Economy.
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Jkudall From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 615 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2384 times:
As was already said, PTV's are only available in First Class on DL's 764's. However, DL does have the 764 "PTV ready" for coach. All they would need to do is put the monitors in, all the other equipment is there. So it is certainly possible in the future.
Crosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2592 posts, RR: 59 Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2318 times:
Since Delta's B767-400 fleet is used almost exclusively on domestic short-haul operations, personal TVs are in not extactly essential on these aircraft, on many routes you'd struggle to show a film. With their current financial status they are there could be little justification for a business case to install them in economy class. First Class has them to satisfy those in the premium cabin, and in my opinion that's currently sufficient for Delta.
If Delta had ordered the aircraft for their long-haul routes then I'm sure that PTVs would have been installed throughout from the outset.
The Continental/Delata comparison isn't really a fair one here.
If the rumours are true, Delta's fleet were hardwired for PTVs at production, so the cost and time of incorporating them at a later stage would be somewhat reduced.
Skibum9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2305 times:
Quoting Crosswind (Reply 9): Since Delta's B767-400 fleet is used almost exclusively on domestic short-haul operations
Somewhat incorrect. DL's 764s were bought to replace the L1011 on the long-haul, high-density, low-yeild leisure markets, like ATL to HNL. While they are used on some short-hauls, like ATL-MCO, the majority of there flying is mid- to long-haul.
Crosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2592 posts, RR: 59 Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2294 times:
Aside from ATL-HNL what other long-haul rotes do Delta use the B767-400 then? I thought the majority of flights were within the continental United States, with flying times of under 6 hours... I wouldn't ever classify anything with a block time of under 6 hours as long-haul.
Skibum9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2155 times:
Could also add SFO-HNL and HNL-LAX.
Crosswind, I don't know if there is a definitive definition of short-haul. But I would consider short haul under 2 hours. Like JKudall said, the 764 also does a lot of transcon, which would be over four hours, which I would think is mid-haul. In either case, the 764 does far more mid to long-haul than short haul. These planes are well utilized for their intended purpose. Although some would argue that they should use them for more international long haul, other than LIM.