LanAlemania From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 190 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5773 times:
Yes, they have to pay for being bookable through systems like Amadeus. Though I highly doubt that airlines like AA and KL have left it, because if so, a HUGE number of travel agencies (at least in Germany) wouldn't be able to book them, which surely would mean a loss for these airlines.
KLM for example often offers relatively cheap fares throughout Europe and the world departing Germany with connection in AMS, and they won't get all the pax if the only way they could be booked would be via their website, hotline or at the airport. Many pax still prefer to book their flights in a travel agency (especially on long-haul routes).
There must be another reason why AA/KL etc. aren't displayed in Amadeus' online timetable any more.
JGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5691 times:
Quoting Udo (Reply 1): Amadeus has become big a piece of crap...
Calm down Udo - what's shown on Amadeus.net is, for commercial reasons, significantly LESS than what is available on the commercial system. The timetables shown on Amadeus.net (for FREE) are only those carriers that provide their schedules direct to Amadeus, rather than via 3rd party distributors (who offer similiarly services to Amadeus.net, but for which they charge fees). So if you really hate Amadeus.net, go pay OAG.com their 20 bucks a month fees, and be happy.
Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 3): If so, then it could well be that they simply decided to stop being on such systems, in which case it might not be Amadeus's fault at all.
It is not Amadeus' fault at all. The 750 airlines that provide schedules to Amadeus, and the 450 bookable in Amadeus, are all still here, don't worry. They just cannot all be shown on Amadeus.net for commercial reasons, very much not in Amadeus' control. So AA and KL and all the others are very much saleable in 1A to travel agents and airline offices (over 200,000 locations), just not to freeloaders on the web . We work all the time on getting carriers to provide schedules direct to Amadeus, as this method is more accurate (updates are sent real time, rather than in a weekly update), and any that implement this method should become available on Amadeus.net in due course.
MauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2487 posts, RR: 27 Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5491 times:
AF-KL will be on amadeus soon, since both company will use the Amadeus system only (on every part, from booking till check-in) , actually my mum is returning from an 11 day Paris trip, were she learned how the amadeus system works. She was one of the 2 KL people from holland wich learned how to handle with the system (more than other people, because ofcourse she isn't the only one wich will use it)
JGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5380 times:
Quoting MauriceB (Reply 12): AF-KL will be on amadeus soon, since both company will use the Amadeus system only (on every part, from booking till check-in)
Not quite till check-in (yet !) - Amadeus will be used for reservations, fares and ticketing (as AF does already), but CORDA/CODECO will continue to be used for inventory and check-in, until AF and KL decide whether or not to replace CORDA/CODECO and Alpha3/Gaetan with a single system.
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 14): Any company that employs JGPH1A is a piece of crap in my opinion
HAH ! I'd say the same about you, only so far no company has been reckless enough to employ you ! :P