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JFK Diversions Today  
User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Posted (9 years 6 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4389 times:

I was looking on http://www.kennedyairport.com/aviation/fidsframe_jfk.html and I noticed that a lot more flights are diverting that are scheduled to Kennedy then laggard and LGA has less delays which is very odd.

Also B6 622 and 678 from PBI diverted to Islip and made the little recovery leg. Does recovery legs like this happen a lot when the airports are near each other?

Your thoughts and diversion notices are welcome below.

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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4362 times:

Quoting JetBlueAtJFK (Thread starter):
which is very odd.

Not too odd when LGA haD RVR above landing minimums, and JFK didn't (at least for awhile)....  Wink

Quoting JetBlueAtJFK (Thread starter):
Does recovery legs like this happen a lot when the airports are near each other?

The recovery leg is usually going to occur irrespective of whether the airports are 10 miles apart or 110 miles apart. the primary exception being if the intended destination airport's weather doesn't improve so as to take approaches/landings. If the weather at the intended destinations is down for the count, the passengers off the diversions are often bussed the rest of the way, and the aircraft re-scheduled to operate other flights, which may necessitate a positioning ferry (empty) elsewhere. For example, if the PBI-JFK was supposed to then operate JFK-BOS and then BOS-ABC-XYZ, they might have ferried ISP-BOS and operated the rest of the aircraft's scheduled flights. Not always possible, as crew legalities are a big factor, and just one of the variables involved.

ATC delays from ISP back to JFK could have been something, awaiting a "gap" in the arrival stream...


User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3409 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4313 times:

Although i don't know first hand i have noted that the weather at the 3 NYC airports(EWR, JFK, and LGA) can be very different at the same time. I believe the concorde was diverted to EWR a few times because visibility at JFK was poor

User currently offlineAad665 From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4311 times:

Hi,

What is going on at JFK today?

I am in BTV airport waiting for a B6 flight to STI via JFK and everything delay. What I should do? Wait for the BTV-JFK flight and might not do the JFK-STI flight or go home and try tomorrow?

Thank

aad665


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16877 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4274 times:

Quoting Usairways85 (Reply 2):
I believe the concorde was diverted to EWR a few times because visibility at JFK was poor

That's because JFK is so close to the open Ocean, having worked and gone to College on the Jersey shore I can tell you the weather can be dramatically different near the beach compared to five miles inland. Big thing is fog.



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16877 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4269 times:

The weather today here is high winds and lots of rain.


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User currently offlineRDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1495 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4227 times:

high winds/windshear and low vis...yeay!

From an ATC perspective: diversion recoveries generally have priority over other traffic if a GDP is in place.



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4189 times:

Quoting RDUDDJI (Reply 6):
From an ATC perspective: diversion recoveries generally have priority over other traffic if a GDP is in place.

Yep, but good luck if you forget to add "DVRSN" in the filing remarks...  Wink


User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2689 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4093 times:

The weather here in the NYC-area is incredibly nasty. Somehow, our STT-EWR flight on CO today managed to arrive 20 minutes early at 6:30 PM - however, the descent and landing were a real doozy - we were sliding and bumping all over the place! When we walked into baggage claim, the majority of flights were either delayed by a couple hours or canceled outright.

Apparently, many arriving EWR flights were diverted into LGA or JFK. They didn't tell us any details about the situation while on the plane, but they made about twenty announcements to remain seated and to expect severe turbulence.


User currently offlineTexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4278 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 2 days ago) and read 4067 times:

FAA is saying the average delays at JFK are 6 hours 48 minutes; LGA delays are 2 hours 42 minutes; EWR delays are 4 hours forget how many minutes.

Texan



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17054 posts, RR: 67
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 2 days ago) and read 4058 times:

Descent over Long Island was pretty bumpy last night (Friday) as well. My ass definitely wanted to briefly leave the seat a few times Big grin


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User currently offlineLairyliam From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3617 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 4):
That's because JFK is so close to the open Ocean, having worked and gone to College on the Jersey shore I can tell you the weather can be dramatically different near the beach compared to five miles inland. Big thing is fog.

Exactly same thing happened on the isle of man this afternoon unfortunately at the same time as most of the a/c were due back in.....

Still it has to be expected this time of year....

Maybe one day the isle will get CAT III gear and all the operators that come in here will have all the a/c and crews ready for it to....

I live in hope
Lairy



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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6771 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3578 times:

Diversion today...

AA1080 Providenciales, Turks And Caicos Islands to JFK was diverted today to RDU..

What was up at JFK today for this diversion.. but it was good to see a AA MD80, 738, 777, 757, and ERJ at RDU at/near the same time today..



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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3548 times:

Any idea why so many flights were diverted to IAD?

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26531 posts, RR: 75
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3512 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 13):
Any idea why so many flights were diverted to IAD?

Long runway, big airfield, most airlines have facilities there, not too far from NYC, etc.



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User currently offlineNycfuturepilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 791 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3406 times:

IAD tends to get a lot of the diversions of flights heading to the NYC area from the south. I have been diverted there on CO and B6. They divery there for the reasons that N1120A explains:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 14):
Long runway, big airfield, most airlines have facilities there, not too far from NYC, etc.

B6 uses it because its the only airport they serve between Florida and JFK so it makes the most sense to send aircraft where they have their own staff and facilities on hand.



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User currently offlineRamerinianair From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3332 times:

So B6 finally came to ISP. All the rumors can rest now!
SR



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User currently offlineIslipWN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3300 times:

LOL! Thats a good one Ramerinianair! Nik....your rumor has come true!

Did anyone happen to get any pics of the B6 plane at ISP?? That would be a rare pic.


Joe

[Edited 2005-04-04 03:53:55]

User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3264 times:

Well, I wasn't so much referring to why Florida flights got diverted there, but a lot of transatlantic flights were diverted there. I was wondering why they decided to go to IAD over BOS or anything north of NYC.

User currently offlineLoggat From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 666 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3264 times:

I was flying from PVD to IAD last night (4/2), and we were pretty late because of the weather. Upon arrival, in the H pad, there was an AZ 777 and a DL 767, JFK diversions, I'm pretty sure. This was about 11:45 at night, so I assume the crews of both planes had timed out, and neither carrier had flight crews for those airplanes in IAD that could repo up to JFK. I guess the rest of the diversions had gone by that time.


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