AirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1 Posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1544 times:
Why is it that Legacy carriers have not been hiring pilots for the last couple of years while most national carriers are hiring 300 to 600 pilots a year? What happened to the large wave of legacy pilots retiring? I am not familiar with the process of furloughing pilots but wouldn't the legacy pilots find other jobs with national carriers?
SonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 7 Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1507 times:
One word answer....furlough. Any airline (with this contract) that has pilots furloughed cannot hire new pilots until every single furloughed has been recalled or given a chance to be recalled. Right now most legacy carriers have tons of pilots furloughed.
SonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 7 Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1444 times:
Quoting SkyexRamper (Reply 4): By flying for a regional, they would have to quit their jobs. They are probably back teaching or flying bizjet or any job they can get to support their families.
That's not true becaues, well, my dad is doing it right now. Most airlines offer regional jobs to their furloughed pilots. In fact, furloughed pilots can do whatever job they went, because in one sense, they were "fired" from their job. When a pilot gets recalled, however, and they don't accept to come back, then they lose their job. So in short, as long as they have not been recalled, they can do whatever job and work for whoever they want.
Quoting AirWillie6475 (Reply 3): What do the furloughed pilots do while they are away? Fly for regionals?
I would say about 85-90% of furloughed pilots fly for regionals. It is def. tough for them to hang on. The other furloughed pilots are flying bizz jets or out of flying competely.
Flyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 1382 times:
Many airlines require that furloughed pilots resign from their previous employer before they are hired. They may be "furloughed" United...but they're not going back.
This makes perfect sense. Why would you hire someone, knowing full well that, even though you are going to be spending tens thousands of dollars on their training and planning for the future based on their employment, once the economy improves they will be leaving you for better horizons without thinking twice or giving two cents about what happens to your company.
The main exception are regionals that are closely tied (contractually or by ownership) to the major they fly for.