N844AA From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 1 Posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6610 times:
Yesterday I was flying back to New York from DFW and I had to be dropped off a couple dozen yards ahead of the curbside check-in area in the middle of Terminal C. I wasn't checking a bag, so I just walked into the the first entrance I saw, which I thought would lead me to the stairs to the gate level.
Some renovation work was being done in this area, which seemed to contain a stop for the employee-only tram linking the terminals. (I'm not even sure if such a tram still exists -- I thought that the old DFW tram system -- not Skylink -- was more extensive than just the TrAAin, but from what I'm finding online, apparently not.) While I was down there, I saw some TrAAin cars speed by; sure enough it didn't stop at this station.
As it turned out, there weren't any stairs in this particular area, only the tram stop and an elevator. By the time I discovered this, I was standing at the elevator and not entirely sure I was someplace I was supposed to be but, what the hell, I decided to take the elevator up to the gates.
While waiting for the elevator, I turned around and saw an old brown plastic sign with white vinyl letters. In large letters it advised that the current terminal was an AA terminal, but in smaller letters below, said "METRO, SUNBELT, CHAPARRAL."
At first it wasn't apparent to me that these were airlines. I had never heard of a single one of them. But sure enough, these were all airlines that used to serve DFW. And if the source I found is correct, it looks like Chaparral became American Eagle, whereas Sunbelt and Metro were somewhat less successful.
But the really remarkable thing is that it looks like this sign must have dated from before 1984, when Sunbelt ceased operations (again, according to my Internet source -- correct me if I'm wrong on this). I thought it was amazing that this relic still existed in a forgotten corner of DFW. (Though considering they were renovating that area, that sign probably won't be around much longer. I wish I had gotten a picture, but I didn't have my camera on me.) Really, about the only thing that could have made it better is if it was a large sign pointing the way to the Braniff, Eastern and Pan Am gates.
I was flying on an ex-TWA 757 last week, and the beverage cart still had TWA printed on the side, though I'd have to say that the Metro-Sunbelt-Chaparral is a somewhat more impressive testimonial to the unexpected longevity of corporate identities.
What are some other remnants you've seen of airlines that are long gone?
New airplanes, new employees, low fares, all touchy-feely ... all of them are losers. -Gordon Bethune
Frugalqxnwa From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 565 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6530 times:
The US Airways Shuttle used to be the Eastern Shuttle, then the Trump Shuttle, and Delta Shuttle used to be Pan Am Shuttle. There are some remnants. Also, some of US MD-80s had galley instructions labeled PSA until they were retired. Also, I believe DL's 732s and many of ther 733s are ex-Western.
Cody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1940 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6326 times:
In some USAir operations rooms at places like GSO and RDU, there are old PIEDMONT signs and pictures all over. The ex-Eastern 757's that USAir flies have brown Passenger Service Units above the passenger seats that have not been changed out since the Eastern days. There is an Eastern 727 in full EAL paint sitting at the airport in Hagerstown, MD. Beside it is a Pan Am number 1 727. There are dumsters in MCO that now belong to Delta but you can see where they used to say Pan Am with the globe above it at one time. They must have pealed the Pan Am stickers off and the sun had faded everything around it. Plane as day, you can see the Pan Am titles and logo. I just saw that last week. Also, remember the pre-ValuJet AirTran??? AirTran still has a maintenance truck painted in old AirTran colors.
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13512 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6115 times:
I work (since 1990) in the former Pan Am building in NYC (200 Park Avenue, between Grand Central Station and 45th Street). While I don't see any old PanAm sign or logos or even shadows of them, in the Vanderbilt Street side lobby/enterance, is a sculpture of wire suspending a metal globe, which was installed during the time that PanAm was HQ'ed in this building, and a placque noting this, and is retained to remind of the building's history. During Christmas, the building has continued a tradition started by PanAm of collecting contributions from tennents and displaying just before Christmas, toys, bicycles and other related items to be given to children for the holidays. Also, there is still the 'Sky Club' on the top occupied floor.
N844AA From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5972 times:
I was in ... MIA, I think, last year, and I remember seeing some EAL signage. I think it might have been at a ticket counter where they were doing some renovations and they had pulled away whatever facade had been covering the Eastern logo underneath.
If AA ever goes belly up, it'll take 'em decades to remove all the AA stuff from around DFW. Look how long it's taken them to remove the Metro, Chaparral and Sunbelt stuff
[Edited 2005-04-06 02:52:20]
New airplanes, new employees, low fares, all touchy-feely ... all of them are losers. -Gordon Bethune
Ha763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3710 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5885 times:
We still have the Pan Am Building with in Honolulu. It still has the Pan Am and Pan American signs on the building. There was talk of removing the signs when Pan Am went out of business and the building passed through several owners, but nostalgia won out.
RCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4411 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5874 times:
In Bogota and in Medellin there is still some Aces signage and 2 of West´s ATRs still have Aces seats, as they are ex-VX horses. AV´s F50s also have Aces seats. In the smaller airports (Armenia, Manizales, Barrancabermeja, Riohacha) there is still some Alianza Summa signage. In Bogota and Armenia there is still Inter signage, though the airline has only been gone for a couple of months.
IslipWN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5851 times:
In FLL, when you are at curbside checkin, look the big black boards that have sticker letters depicting what airline is in what terminal at an angle. if you are successful, you will see the Eastern, Carnival, Condor, and Delta Express stickers. These are all scattered at all different concourses though. And I'm sure you will see more too.
Jdaniel001 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5853 times:
At the old Braniff terminal at DFW (2W now B), if you look at the signage at just the right angle you can still see Braniff International.
Also at Love Field (DAL), the old DL concourse was untouched up until a year or two ago. The gatehouses were still like the day Delta moved out. The podiums the little 4' high railing, everything. It was incredible.
Also at DAL, there was an old style Frontier sticker with the arrow on their old ops room.
Vatveng From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1072 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5809 times:
The Critter lives at PHF! One of the original ValuJet stations, the wastebasket behind the AirTran podium in the gate area for gates 2/4/6 at PHF has a Critter logo on it. (Wish I'd had the camera with me...)
LN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1912 posts, RR: 13
Reply 24, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5792 times:
On a customs official's desk at ATL I found to my huge surprise a sticker from Busy Bee of Norway that used to operate one 737-200 and some F-27's and -50's on behalf of Braathens in Norway and around Europe. It may well still be there!
Also logos from Western and Reeves Aleutian came visible when they tore down the panels behind DL's old ticket counters in SEA a couple of years ago. I had a picture of that wall published in Airways.
- I am LN-MOW, and I approve this message.
25 UAL Bagsmasher
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