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Metal Cutlery Back On Board  
User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2728 times:

http://money.cnn.com/2005/04/04/news/funny/forks_in_sky.reut/index.htm

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User currently offlineBongo From Colombia, joined Oct 2003, 1863 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2668 times:

Well....one of the things I hate is to cut meat with plastic knives, so welcome metal again. Finally they understood that avoid metal cutlery won't avoid terrorist acts !!


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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2665 times:

Thank goodness.

Mystery meat tastes so much better when cut with metal cutlery.


User currently offlineCarduelis From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2001, 1586 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2652 times:

This is at least the third thread within 24 hours on this topic.

If you're interested, try a Search.

[Edited 2005-04-05 17:36:21]


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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2623 times:

Quoting Carduelis (Reply 3):
If you're interested, try a Search.

I did it and got nothing.

You may see the date of the info in the initial post of this thread:"Beginning this month, fliers in Britain will be able to cut their food with metal knives again.
April 4, 2005: 2:10 PM EDT"


User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13134 posts, RR: 100
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2574 times:
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Thank god! Bring metal cutlery back to the US too! I'm sorry, but a text book* as a blunt weapon is more dangerous than a serated cafeteria knife. Not that there is much food left on flights... (which is a good thing, airline food has a reputation for a reason.)

Quoting Bongo (Reply 1):
Finally they understood that avoid metal cutlery won't avoid terrorist acts !!

Here here! The continued over-reaction has me annoyed. The 9/11 style of hijacking wouldn't work today; everyone would know they were dead and the pax would fight to retake the aircraft.

The one VERY sensible post 9/11 precaution is the beefed up cockpit doors. A salsberry steak has a better chance of getting through one than the metal cutlery...

Lightsaber
* specifically, I'm thinking of Mark's Handbook for Mechanical engineers. The absolute "heaviest" of the text books I had to carry around.



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User currently offlineTUGMASTER From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Jul 2004, 699 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2526 times:

FYI..

At the end of January this year i flew MAD-FRA on the LAN A340 and the cutlery used on board was a plastic spoon,plastic knife and a METAL fork.

Kinda strange i thought.

rgds

Tugmaster

(p.s. I even managed to cut my finger with the plastic knife while trying to cut the bread roll.)


User currently offlineBritPilot777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2470 times:

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 2):
Mystery meat tastes so much better when cut with metal cutlery.

What the hell are you on?! How does it taste better whether you eat with plastic cutlery, metal cutlery or even with your hands!?



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User currently offlineBongo From Colombia, joined Oct 2003, 1863 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2465 times:

Quoting BritPilot777 (Reply 7):
What the hell are you on?! How does it taste better whether you eat with plastic cutlery, metal cutlery or even with your hands!?

Red wine tastes better by far in glass than in a plastic cup... It is a matter of taste !!

[Edited 2005-04-05 21:02:21]


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User currently offlineSchipholjfk From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2454 times:

Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 5):
Here here! The continued over-reaction has me annoyed. The 9/11 style of hijacking wouldn't work today; everyone would know they were dead and the pax would fight to retake the aircraft.

Absolutely true! In the old days all of us passengers were adviced to remain calm and invariably the hijackers put the plane down on the ground. No one thought otherwise. In todays's world, I am pretty sure every single passengers including grandma will be physically fighting anyone trying to take over a plane. So bring back metal cutlery and at least let us enjoy the mystery meat and mini salad and desserts in the cattle class.



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User currently offlineVS045 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 192 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2419 times:

Quoting BritPilot777 (Reply 7):
What the hell are you on?! How does it taste better whether you eat with plastic cutlery, metal cutlery or even with your hands!?

I think BritPilot777 was being sarcastic!

Although, as Bongo said things do taste better when eaten with proper cutlery.

Cheers,
VS045



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User currently offlineGuyBetsy1 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 840 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2381 times:

Some airlines use the excuse of 'security' to avoid using metal cutlery as it will add costs to their overall profit margin. Metal cutlery are heavy and hence for an airline that wants to get rid of pillows to save of evergy costs, it is of course an easy decision.

For about over a year now, some airlines flying within the US have allowed metal cutlery including knives for meals - in First Class at least. Airlines flying to/from USA have been allowed to use either full metal cutlery or maybe all except the knife. American Airlines however, still use alll plastic utensils.

So it's not a matter of security.. but rather a matter of scrutiny from the airline manager's office!


User currently offlineTrident2e From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2370 times:

Quoting Carduelis (Reply 3):
This is at least the third thread within 24 hours on this topic

Well perhaps he didn't happen to see them. And suggesting he does a search is just plain stupid - how do you know what you don't know?


User currently offlineCarduelis From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2001, 1586 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2325 times:

Trident2e:-

Watch my lips:-

Quoting Carduelis (Reply 3):
If you're interested, try a Search.

There are currently at least 22 recent thread contributions in a search for cutlery.

Quoting Trident2e (Reply 12):
how do you know what you don't know?

Consider your proposed/actual title of your new thread - CUTLERY is the main word.



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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2308 times:

Thank god! Bring metal cutlery back to the US too!

Why?

How many people do you know who eat mini-pretzels and chex mix with a fork and knife?


User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3532 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2281 times:

One thing I noticed when I flew LY is that they give you metal cutlery. I didn't expect that, with them being very serious about safety.


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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2194 times:

They will not be used [obviously] in flights to and from the U.S..

User currently offlineHansieAMS From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2182 times:

I few AMS-ORD on KLM 3 days ago and had metal cutlery including a Knife !

User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2175 times:

Last year I flew KLM AMS-YVR and we had metal knives, then on the flight back to AMS, we had plastic knives. Must have been a "transition" phase or something.  Yeah sure

cheers,
Patrick



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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2156 times:

Quoting HansieAMS (Reply 17):
I few AMS-ORD on KLM 3 days ago and had metal cutlery including a Knife !

Sounds strange [I'm not saying that is false], and incomprehensible during times of tight security around the world [specially the U.S.].


User currently offlineNotSoFrqntFlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 52 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2001 times:

Recently I was on my way to US on Lufthansa's aircraft a340-300 and there was metal cutlery in economy class. I thought that US aviation authorities (whatever their proper and official name is) didn't allow metal cutlery on board of all flights coming to US. On my way back on United all cutlery was plastic (also economy class), and just off topic service on Lufthansa was excellent, which I can't say about United.
Regards filip


User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1970 times:

Quoting Carduelis (Reply 13):
There are currently at least 22 recent thread contributions in a search for cutlery.

Re-read post 4. Specially second paragraph.
Your problem: Don't like thread.
Solution suggested to your problem: Just don't participate!


User currently offlineSATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1951 times:

Quoting NotSoFrqntFlr (Reply 20):
I thought that US aviation authorities (whatever their proper and official name is) didn't allow metal cutlery on board of all flights coming to US.

-> TSA = Transportation Security Administration

-> You can bring/use a metal butter knife (rounded)

-> Both flights to and from the US are affected



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User currently offlineZkojh From China, joined Sep 2004, 1703 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1866 times:

well nz have had it back for over a year on the london route , the plastic effort was taking the soup!!


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User currently offlinePaulcaz From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1840 times:

I flew Asiana last week they had metal knives and forks


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