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Largest U.S. Airport Without Widebody Service?  
User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4552 posts, RR: 18
Posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7686 times:

Does anyone know what the largest U.S. airport (in terms of passengers served) is without regularly schedule widebody passenger jet service?

I'm guessing MDW simply because of runway length. Or do they have widebody service? Is there any place bigger that is left out?


Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
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User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1604 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7638 times:

Yes, MDW is correct. No current widebody service (that I'm aware of). After that would be DCA.

Here's a list of the 24 busiest U.S. airports. MDW is 18. The 17 before MDW all receive scheduled widebody service.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp.../A58476-2005Mar22?language=printer


N670UW

[Edited 2005-04-06 01:41:09]

User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7603 times:

CLE must be in there too, and it could use some widebodys to London and other European citys.


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7576 times:

What about SNA? I havnt seen them allow anything bigger than a 752 and following the noise abatement requirement.


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User currently offlineHomer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2242 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7576 times:

What widebody service does MEM (#17) have?


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User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7557 times:

Homer71: I believe Northwest or KLM flies to AMS.

Aaron G.


User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7546 times:

Well, if DL were to stop sending their 767s to LGA, then LGA would be at the top of the list.

User currently offlineSonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7538 times:

Quoting Homer71 (Reply 4):
What widebody service does MEM (#17) have?

Just a few FedEx planes.  wink 

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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8234 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7540 times:

Quoting CLE757 (Reply 2):
CLE must be in there too, and it could use some widebodys to London and other European citys.

Cleveland gets widebodies from UPS and FedEx, so we can't be in the running.



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User currently offlineMGA From Nicaragua, joined Mar 2005, 726 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7465 times:

OAK?? biggest non-cargo planes I believe are North American And UA's 752

MGA



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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6764 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7441 times:

OAK.. I have seen some FedEx DC10 in OAK when I have flown in and out..


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26444 posts, RR: 75
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7410 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 3):
What about SNA? I havnt seen them allow anything bigger than a 752 and following the noise abatement requirement.

Noise is not the reason for the lack of widebodies, it is the 5700 foot main runway

Quoting Homer71 (Reply 4):
What widebody service does MEM (#17) have?

NW DC-10 to AMS for pax and so many Fed-Ex planes it is ridiculous



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User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 7326 times:

PIT has fallen down the list but we only have the Fed Ex and UPS A300/310 and a US 762 CLT-PIT-PHL

User currently offlineGoCOgo From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 7282 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 8):
Cleveland gets widebodies from UPS and FedEx, so we can't be in the running.

Not to jump on you, N766UA, but the original post said: "Does anyone know what the largest U.S. airport (in terms of passengers served) is without regularly schedule widebody passenger jet service?"

What rules CLE out is # of passengers
MDW: 17mil
CLE: 13mil

Of course, when you go to http://www.chicago-mdw.com/ they show a picture of a 747 on the homepage.

Also, MDW is lacks it because of runway length, and because WN only operates the 737. CLE lacks it because CO would rather use their limited widebodies out of IAH and EWR (I do think they could fill some in CLE.)



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26444 posts, RR: 75
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 7242 times:

Quoting GoCOgo (Reply 13):
Also, MDW is lacks it because of runway length, and because WN only operates the 737.

Last I checked, TZ still flies L1011s into MDW



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User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7147 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7199 times:

Those facts N670UW gave are Takeoffs and Landings not passengers. I was wondering what some of those airports were doing so high up there like MEM. I think we are talking about passenger flights right.

[Edited 2005-04-06 04:28:23]


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User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4552 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7176 times:

They can get an L1011 in and out of MDW on those short runways? Last I had heard was that a 757 was the biggest thing that could operate there. What is the story with DCA? Is it just overshadowed by other airports in the area or is it the proximity to the White House that keeps widebody craft out?


Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3474 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7123 times:

That list is wrong, where are SLC with 410,000 movements and PHL with 485,000 movements. It's funny how the paper just got rid of certain airports on the list.

Jeremy


User currently offlineDaron4000 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 712 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7094 times:

How does MDW have more takeoffs/landings than JFK? IT's surprising that Chicago has that many flights if you count both Midway and O'Hare, but I'm very glad and proud of my beautiful hometown city!

User currently offlineORDflyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 511 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 7068 times:

They can get an L1011 in and out of MDW on those short runways? Last I had heard was that a 757 was the biggest thing that could operate there.
I also remember hearing when TZ started 757-300 service from MDW that it was the largest plane that could operate from MDW. If I remember correctly a 767 made an emergency landing at MDW some time ago, and it had to be stripped down to be flown back out so I doubt regular service would be feasable because of the short runways.
TZ certainly does not have current L1011 service from MDW though, if they ever fly them to Chicago they go to ORD


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26444 posts, RR: 75
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 7064 times:

Quoting Indy (Reply 16):
What is the story with DCA? Is it just overshadowed by other airports in the area or is it the proximity to the White House that keeps widebody craft out?

DCA's main runway is less than 6900 feet long. Also, its taxiways and gate areas are really too tight for any sort of sustained widebody service

MDW, while its runways are even shorter, does have taxiway space around it to move. Much like L10s were able to fly out of LGA with its 7000 foot max runways, they are able to use MDW. Now, they are not going to fly their fill range, but they can fly where TZ needs them to go



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User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1902 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6991 times:

Jeremy,

Good eye...Just so typical of today's irresponsible journalism that seems to be everywhere in the media!


User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6941 times:

STL is pretty big and does not have any wide body passenger service.

Alex



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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5174 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6841 times:

ATA never has used an L1011 into MDW--and they don't do so now.


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User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 6701 times:

SNA's out. They have a regular A300/A310 flight from UPS.



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25 777STL : Doesn't DL run a 764 to Hawaii from CLE? I believe they used to anyway. -77
26 IAHERJ : Delta has never run a 764 from CLE to anywhere. IAHERJ
27 Leelaw : A friend of mine who works for FedEx claims that they made a demonstration flight with an A310 into MDW, he's not sure why or when. I've seen this rum
28 Post contains images Spinzels : Except alas for DL 1989 on Sept. 11, 2001.
29 GoCOgo : That would be CVG. I wish CO would, though, but we don't even get a widebody to LGW. And stop bringing up the cargo carriers: Since when did UPS and
30 Tockeyhockey : DC-10!
31 N766UA : I stand corrected. Except for diversions and middle-east dignitaries, we see no widebody passenger service. And to think in the late '90s we had DC-1
32 B741 : I don't even see PHX on that Washington Post list.
33 IADCRJ : PIT could probably now quailify since USairways discontinued it's trans-Atlantic flights to Frankfurt and London this past fall.
34 Post contains images BoeingFever777 : So this list is saying that PHX did less than 271,000 t/o and landings and had 37+ million ppl pass through it? Thats an average of 137 passangers an
35 IAHERJ : I remember the late 90's at CLE when there was a daily UA DC-10 to ORD. I even witnessed a NW 747-400 departure off of the then 23L when I was next to
36 STLGph : Are you speaking of the 747 on the Chicago Aviation homepage?
37 Post contains links STLGph : That's actually not their homepage. The homepage for Chicago Midway Airport is... http://www.flychicago.com/midway/home.asp If you look, you see a 75
38 PVD757 : Based on PASSENGERS CARRIED: I'd say it must be one of the following: MDW DCA DAL HOU STL PIT CLE other larger airports (but not the largest) AUS SAT
39 7E72004 : The only widebody service that IND gets is FedEx and the ATA charters.
40 N766UA : PIT still has scheduled 767 passenger service to CLT and PHL.
41 RDUDDJI : Actually, I know after 9/11 there was a restriction on number of seats for DCA bound flights. I believe it was somewhere in the 150-160 range. I don'
42 LH423 : Yeah, but STL's traffic is essentially half of what it used to be in 2000 and 2001. I think at point point STL had over 30 million passengers a year
43 Post contains images Homer71 : Thanks for the correction, I forgot about the D10 to AMS, and, yes, I know FedEx flies widebodies out of their main hub, but, alas, they don't provide
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