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CO To Start EWR-New Delhi  
User currently offlineLatinAviation From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1276 posts, RR: 15
Posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 16080 times:

Well this came as a surprise this morning. I was reading WSJ.com, which posted this under Airline News:

Continental Airlines Inc. (CAL) announced Wednesday plans for daily nonstop flights between India's capital New Delhi and New York, beginning Nov. 1.

A Continental Airlines statement said the decision is pending government approval.

The statement added thatflying nonstop will cut the travel time between the two destinations by two hours.

The airline plans to operate the 283-seat Boeing 777 on the route.

India's air traffic to foreign destinations is growing rapidly, helped by a fast-growing economy.



A quick Google search found this press release, issued in India, announcing the service:
http://www.businesswireindia.com/PressRelease.asp?b2mid=6996

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User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2629 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 16068 times:

Nonstop! Wow, that is sweet. Way to go CO.


B4REAL, spelled like it sounds
User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2884 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 16045 times:

Great route altough most of us on the forum thought it would be EWR-BOM as AC already opearates a non-stop between YYZ-DEL and it would make more sense to operate a non-stop service between North America and BOM

User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2884 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 15989 times:

Flying times will be approximately 15 hours, 50 minutes westbound and 13 hours, 55 minutes eastbound.

Nearly 16 hours in COs 777--how is their service in economy class for all their other longhaul flights,
I think 15.5 hrs is way too long


User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4748 posts, RR: 43
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 15988 times:

CO 82, will depart EWR daily at 9:05 p.m. arriving at New Delhi at 9:30 p.m the next day. Flying times will be approximately 15 hours, 50 minutes westbound and 13 hours, 55 minutes eastbound.

CO 83 will depart New Delhi daily at 11:30 p.m., arriving at New York/Newark at 4:50 a.m. the next day.

Isnt 5am an inconvenient time for O&D pax especially to arrive into EWR from DEL!!! I know its excellent for onward connecting flights but for O&D passengers a 5am EWR arrival time isnt that attractive one bit!!!

Btw any payload restrictions for CO to face on both segments for flying this route nonstop? or is it payload free?

[Edited 2005-04-06 13:49:30]

User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5154 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 15899 times:

I think connections are more important, the CO flight to IAH from GRU gets in early like that as well.


Third Coast born, means I'm Texas raised
User currently offlineFraT From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 1106 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 15886 times:

This may be a result of the rumored postponement of the LOS service. There is another thread about this topic.

User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2167 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 15861 times:

Cool....

I have never flown them, but at least from a network perspective CO is a very cool airlines. Slowly developing into a second Pan Am.

What are they like to fly with on longhaul business class? The same as the other US legacy carriers (AA, UA, DL), or better and thus more like some of the Europeans (BA,AF,LH) or even AustralAsians (CX,QF,SQ)? Lie flat seats in C? Catering? IFE? Cabin service?


User currently offlineDIJKKIJK From France, joined Jul 2003, 1783 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 15830 times:

15 hours in a tube with rude f/a s and crap food.


God help them!



Never argue with idiots. They will bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience.
User currently offlineLatinAviation From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1276 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 15821 times:

Quoting FraT (Reply 6):
This may be a result of the rumored postponement of the LOS service.

Doubt it. LOS was to be operated with a 767-200ER.


User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2629 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 15816 times:

Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 8):
15 hours in a tube with rude f/a s and crap food.


God help them!

That's not the CO I know.



B4REAL, spelled like it sounds
User currently offlineUAL747-600 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 577 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 15787 times:

Seems to me that CO is going to need more 777's in the not too distant future. With this route and the new China route, they'll need to downgrade other cities that are currently served by 777s.

UAL747-600


User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4748 posts, RR: 43
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 15743 times:

I hope now AA doesnt want to fly JFK-INDIA-JFK nonstop and rather concentrate on ORD-INDIA-ORD as there is more competition out of the NYC area and AA has a much better hub system at ORD than it does at JFK!!!

Though I think flying a B 772ER ORD-DEL-ORD will be a bit difficult with a full payload over the Himalayas etc.

Yes its unfortunate that BOM didnt get the CO flight...well now all the more reason for 9W to fly to JFK from BOM via CDG or BRU. Will this make 9W the fastest airline to fly from BOM to JFK and vice versa?


User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 15721 times:
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Seems like CO likes to use its 777 to the limit !! Waouw !!

After EWR-HKG & EWR-NRT.

BTW is AC using the 345 on the YYZ-DEL route ?

FB.



Life is great at 41.000 feet...
User currently offlineDIJKKIJK From France, joined Jul 2003, 1783 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 15671 times:

Quoting B4real (Reply 10):
That's not the CO I know.

Most of the comments about CO are rather negative, I'm afraid.

read them here


http://www.airlinequality.com/Forum/contl.htm



Never argue with idiots. They will bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience.
User currently offlineUpperDeck79 From Finland, joined Feb 2005, 1139 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 15637 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 4):
Isnt 5am an inconvenient time for O&D pax especially to arrive into EWR from DEL!!!

Add the time for immigration, customs and baggage retrieval plus the time to get to Manhattan - how is that not convenient for a 9 o'clock business meeting?

(And it's not like you would feel that you wake up at 4 am. The local time at your departure point is already afternoon...)



AY and ANA rock!
User currently offlineKlwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2015 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 15602 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 4):
Isnt 5am an inconvenient time for O&D pax especially to arrive into EWR from DEL!!! I know its excellent for onward connecting flights but for O&D passengers a 5am EWR arrival time isnt that attractive one bit!!!

This isn't true. Flight 91 from TLV arrives in EWR at 5 a.m. And it is always packed. Someone else has said a South American arrival gets in that early as well.


User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2419 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 15601 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 4):
CO 83 will depart New Delhi daily at 11:30 p.m., arriving at New York/Newark at 4:50 a.m. the next day.

Isnt 5am an inconvenient time for O&D pax especially to arrive into EWR from DEL!!! I know its excellent for onward connecting flights but for O&D passengers a 5am EWR arrival time isnt that attractive one bit!!!

So a 3:30 am departure from New Delhi with a 9:00 am arrival into EWR would be better????



Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
User currently offlineAvek00 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4336 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 15536 times:

Some thoughts:

1. CO's longhaul 777 product in both cabins is good, and can compete effectively against its principal competitor (Air India).

2. IINM, the payload restrictions will be brutal on DEL-EWR, but that will hopefully be mitigated by the nonstop premium CO will charge.

3. I'd be surprised if AI didn't try to compete with a nonstop ex-NYC within a years' time.



Live life to the fullest.
User currently offlineJunction From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 15478 times:

Here is a copy of the official press release:
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050406/daw007.html?.v=4


User currently offlineTpaewr From United States of America, joined May 2001, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 15455 times:

I have flown AF,CO,US, and VS J class, and I like CO's best. VS was very nice, and I could see how some would prefer it. I'd say they were equal, the difference would be subjective. However this is VS flagship JFK-LHR, I find VS to be slightly less stellar on say LHR-IAD ,and poor ex-LGW.

I flew old AF (La Space 127) Disappointed , but it is all new now.

US was really F/P but since they were plummeting into BK it wasn't as good as CO's J, other than a true flat seat was nice.

My bro flys DL often and say while comparable BF is better than BE.

I think that website that was sited is mostly full of angery leisure flyers. I would get your info from flyertalk, they bitch forever about nothing getting comp upgrades, but rarely say much bad about the service once they are up there.


I haven't flown CO Y longhaul since the D10, that wasn't fun, but Y never is. I flew AF Y CDG-HKG and that was hell too.


User currently onlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20365 posts, RR: 62
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 15435 times:

Haven't there been mentions in a few threads that a twin on this route would have to be upgraded with some sort of oxygen apparatus to make it safely over the Himalayas? I couldn't find the specific reference, but I would assume CO has this issue resolved in order to operate this route?


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User currently offlineDrdivo From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 118 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 15426 times:

Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 14):
Most of the comments about CO are rather negative, I'm afraid.

Are you reading the same article that you quoted? Here are some of the comments from the link you provided within the last ten posts:

t was a very pleasant flight !! Flight Attendants were busy (they were one down due to illness) but were polite and efficient - and once you were polite back they rapidly warmed up and were friendly.

I am still very impressed by CO's economy product. Besides the fact that I am sitting in a premium seat in Economy because of my dad's mileage ticket and loyalty to CO, I couldn't ask for more. It exceeded even AA's service!

Now, I must admit that my expectations were not very high, but the staff pleasantly surprised me....and the service did not stop after arrival, I had a delightful check-in experience in Miami, FL

I continue to be impressed by Continental. The crew attitude on every flight I have taken of late (6) has been positive and interactive

Great service all around, announcements in Hebrew, English and Arabic. BusinessFirst is probably the best overseas business class service of all the US airlines. EWR may be one of the better US airports to transfer in.

Overall the service was good, food as palatable as airline food can be, FA's excellent. Changing aircraft at Newark remarkably simple - all at the excellent Terminal C

The FAs were kind and efficient to a person. I was traveling with two young children, and the FAs were very good to them. All four legs were on time and all luggage arrived. This was a very pleasant experience on Continental and I will fly them again on my next trip to Guatemala.

Yes, there were a couple of negative remarks, but to slag the entire airline when the vast majority of the remarks in the site you rely on are very positive seems to be irresponsible.

Have you your own experience with Continental?



Respectfully - the Divo
User currently offlinePaul From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 374 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 15395 times:

Is there any news on the service classes they will provide. They cannot expect anyone to sit in their normal economy class. Will they have a premium econonomy like SQ super long haul flight?

Paul



Veni, vidi, vici.
User currently offlineLatinAviation From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1276 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 15378 times:

Quoting Paul (Reply 23):
They cannot expect anyone to sit in their normal economy class.

It will be their standard 777 config. From their press release:

Economy class on the Continental 777 is also exceptionally comfortable and spacious in a 3-3-3 seating configuration with wide aisles. Every economy class passenger benefits from an individual seatback video system with eight channels of video, 20 channels of audio and up to 10 video games as well as an in-flight telephone with over-water capacity. The first few rows in the economy class also feature individual laptop computer outlets.


25 NYCAAer : Fianlly a nonstop from the NYC area! I've been thinking about visiting India for quite some time. This brings me one step closer. It will be interesti
26 Rmenon : Air France Austrian Airlines British Airways Emirates KLM Royal Dutch Airlines Lufthansa Turkish Airlines Virgin Atlantic Airways all operate from NY
27 Junction : I think it's a safe bet this time, because the specific schedule has been announced, and more importantly tickets are open for sale. Normally, they w
28 Incitatus : Way to go. Continental will show all other US carriers and Air India that they have an inferior product with odd arrival/departure times in India and
29 Airbazar : I'm more of the opinion that the 777 on this route is more of a stop-gap until the 787 arrives. As far as I understand it the issue with flying over
30 Post contains images B4real : I'd say these new flights' times are oddball as well. Well timed for US connections, however. Only thing I would do different is shift the whole part
31 Flyguy1 : I would say a fully loaded 777 taking off at 11:30am, at one of the hottest point of the day, as opposed to 9:30pm when it is much cooler outside, is
32 Rmenon : Junction - I had tried to book on continental.com and couldn't find service for dates in Nov/Dec. Where are you finding tickets for sale?
33 Slider : Actually, these are great timings. The arrival connects perfectly to the 0900h bank out of EWR for beyond connections and getting it in early AM also
34 NYCFlyer : pardon my geographic ignorance, but would a flight from the USA to DEL have to pass over the Himalayas at all? I thought the Himalayas were northeaste
35 B4real : Please elaborate...
36 Himmat01 : That's true! CO has the rudest F/As I have ever seen. I flown CO on domestic sectors in the US and the service sucks.. Himmat
37 Flyguy1 : B4real: My point was, it is more conducive for a fully loaded airplane to depart in the cooler, night time hours. The heat can only be a deterrent.
38 Junction : You have to go direct access into CO's internal res system to see the flights. Since it was just announced today the web site probably won't have ano
39 Cory6188 : The time of day issue is a definite factor for performance. That is exactly why SQ does EWR-SIN at night so that the takeoff performance can be better
40 B4real : That is what I thought, from an efficiency standpoint, but I was not sure if you are saying that the a/c is not capable of running the route in such c
41 Rmenon : Thanks Junction!
42 Post contains images FraT : That's probably because they are so underpaid and had to reject the concession deal.
43 Post contains links AeroWesty : I finally found the thread I'd recalled which discussed the problems for CO to operate an EWR-DEL nonstop, even though it was in a thread about EWR-BO
44 Jet-lagged : I flew CO Hong Kong to Newark (and back) in economy and it was OK. Compared to SQ and CX I don't see much difference in U.S. carriers. CO will have no
45 Post contains links WestWing : I too recall the threads related to extra passenger oxygen for traversal of that terrain. Airbus was working on a solution which involved on-board oxy
46 Behramjee : Ok some of your points make sense regarding the 5am arrival time into EWR concerning being in Manhattan etc by 9am BUT I dont think so a majority of t
47 Post contains images Junction : But wouldn't you be more then happy to spring out of bed at any time to be able to go meet up with your loved one's ? (Just kidding)
48 Scotron11 : What's the big deal on arriving at 4.50am? Far East flights into London arrive around 5.00am and some eastcoast flights arrive around 6.00-6.30am. No
49 AeroWesty : WestWing: Yes, I recalled that thread too ... and that no one had an answer for your question of: "Boeing's 777 family range charts which claim to be
50 N1120A : Good enough Try 18 None on EWR-DEL, but there will be some on DEL-EWR, as mentioned Yes, but this means that something will have to replace 777s on s
51 Post contains images Jacobin777 : there are many flights in that time range........for example SFO-SYD, DXB-JFK... I've been in a metal tube for 15 hours nonstop...in EK's cattle clas
52 AeroWesty : So how does that address the issue of operating twins over the Himalayas? (Note what you quoted from my post wasn't my question, but an unanswered qu
53 Goboeing : The 777s arriving in the early morning from DEL and TLV could just sit until later in the morning or early afternoon to go to HKG, NRT, and TLV. Nick
54 Drdivo : CO's 777s are operated upwards of 18 hours a day; they normally don't spend more than two hours on the ground anywhere, with very few RONs. Aircraft
55 Post contains links and images WestWing : My original point was that on the 777 range charts , a NYC to DEL route is well within range of a -200ER operating under "typical mission rules". So,
56 LPLAspotter : If this was operated by the Air Mike branch of CO I'd have to agree with you. However, I've always found regular CO to be quite nice on the long haul
57 CALMSP : well we will no longer have two 777's overnight here in IAH!!! I would imagine that the inbound DEL flight will turn either NRT/HKG/PEK. I wonder how
58 Post contains links MaverickM11 : "So how does that address the issue of operating twins over the Himalayas? " I don't think there's any reason to cross the Himalayas when flying from
59 Drdivo : Hiya CALMSP! You know, my buddy (insider) up at 1600HQ tells me that there isn't a 777 option; it's a 767-400 option. I haven't been able to find any
60 AeroWesty : That's what we're trying to clarify. In the other threads mentioned, it was stated outright that EWR-DEL couldn't be operated by a 777, and the most-
61 MaverickM11 : There are currently no CO 777 options on the books as far as I know. 18 are in service, none are on order, and none are optioned.
62 USAFHummer : Yes, it'd have to pass virtually right over the Karakorum Range (several 8,000 meter peaks in area), as well as the Indian Himalaya which isn't all t
63 AC787 : Its always nice to have hubs that have so many exotic destinations...AC is turning YYZ into a rlly cool hub with all the same destinations u mentione
64 Airbazar : However you're missing one important detail. This flight is targeting Delhi O&D traffic only. For people going to other major cities in India there a
65 CALMSP : hoefuly this means that when 1611 comes in to IAH from EWR at 2230 it wont be jammed full of India bags....now the morning crew can offload them off t
66 Post contains images AeroWesty : OK, who can definitively say which is right?
67 Coa764 : I seriously doubt that, the 764 does not have the range for that kind of mission so the 777 is the only option (non-stop).
68 Post contains images MaverickM11 : "OK, who can definitively say which is right? " Well I have a hunch that if CO announced EWR-DEL nonstop with a 777, then they can do EWR-DEL nonstop
69 Gigneil : They're talking about delivery options, not about the 767-400 being an option for this route. Clearly, it isn't. N
70 ExPratt : Fly for almost 16 hours nonstop from DEL to EWR arriving at 0450 and you want to go to a 0900 business meeting??? You sound like somebody I used to w
71 N1120A : They are far more accurate than the ones on Airbus' site According to most reports, there is 1. Naturally, as DEL-EWR will be weight restricted
72 Gigneil : Hey, consultants live that lifestyle. Even I at some point in my past have had to live life that way. N
73 AeroWesty : I like to amuse myself into thinking I've very simple questions on this. If the route is going to be operated by CO nonstop on a 777, then: A) It wil
74 Jasepl : It makes sense for CO to choose fly to DEL, because there are surprisingly few direct flights between Dilly and the US. BOM has at least 6 daily dire
75 Post contains links MasseyBrown : Page 19 of the Dec 31, 2004 SEC Form 10-K shows fleet numbers and includes one option for a 777. Edited to remove a faulty link. To see the 10-K, go t
76 Xpat : Pity noboby from CO is able to jump in and tell us whether the flight would have to fly over the Himalayas. Also, I thought US based airlines avoided
77 Shawnnyc : I only agree if a non-stop cannot be done to BOM from EWR. The EWR-BOM O&D market is huge plus the ethnic Indian market going to BOM from NYC tends t
78 Karan69 : WHy is it out of the question for the time being, because of the 7 direct connection or any other reason
79 Post contains images WestWing : Just FYI, I believe people were loosely using the term "Himalayas" as a convenient short cut to say "those spectacular ranges that are still being fo
80 RAMPRAT980 : Amazing that co is adding so many new destinations in just the right time when employees are getting pay cuts -minus F/A
81 Avek00 : Restricted airspace (along with range) becomes a MUCH bigger issue flying into BOM - USA-DEL is possible on a 772ER/343, but USA-BOM requires a 772LR
82 Post contains images Slider : Yeah, what an intolerable act to take!! The nerve of announcing a new and probably wildly profitable route in order to grow the airline, add incremen
83 Gigneil : This is the attitude that's destroying the airlines. N
84 Post contains images N1120A : What is the deal with the fog there anyway? Is it that bad or did someone steal their Cat IIIb ILS ?
85 AeroWesty : In my case, that's certainly true enough. I've been trying to refer to what was referred to in the past to keep as much clarity as possible to previo
86 Post contains images Ourboeing : I will be flying them soon BTW, I flew YYZ-DEL-YYZ on Air Canada..those 16 hours go by so fast when you are fast asleep And flying on a 777 be much be
87 Airbazar : I still don't think the issue is the hight of the terrain as much as an emergency landing airport. At least that's what I've heard from pilots who fl
88 COEWR787 : Will the route take this flight East of Moscow or West of Moscow? The reason I ask is that the Delhi - Moscow flights generally fly some approximation
89 COEWR787 : If the routing of Delhi - Moscow flights give any indication of the possible routing, it would be over the Hindu Kush and not over the Karakorams. Ev
90 MaverickM11 : " The reason I ask is that the Delhi - Moscow flights generally fly some approximation of the route Delhi - Rawalpindi - Kabul - Termez - Tashkent - A
91 STT757 : Avoids congestion at International arrivals, also avoids rush hour traffic. Oil $$$, CO is based in Houston the energy Capital of the World.
92 MaverickM11 : Has anybody had any success booking it? I tried booking it a couple times and each time it tells me CO does not fly to DEL.
93 Cory6188 : Give them some time to put it in the system, EWR-PEK didn't open up for sale for at least a week or two after the press release.
94 Nimish : Congratulations to CO and folks in both NYC and DEL! This is a long overdue step for the market, and an important one for CO. I think UA must be kicki
95 Cb777 : 777LR is the perfect a/c for CO in the near future...
96 Nimish : What's the context to this comment? Why will a flight coming in at 22:30 to IAH not be full of India bags because of a flight to EWR that lands at 04
97 Elwood64151 : My friend George is thrilled to hear it. He's travelling to India this May, too early to take advantage of the flight, but I'm sure he'll be going aga
98 GoCOgo : I take this to mean CO already sees many Indian passengers, perhaps connecting through AI's CDG-EWR flights? Interesting.
99 MaverickM11 : "Give them some time to put it in the system, EWR-PEK didn't open up for sale for at least a week or two after the press release." It said it was "rea
100 Post contains images Aseem : how about this for the inaugural flight. regards Aseem
101 AeroWesty : I like! It certainly would be as colorful as the rantings that came from those who were balleyhooing that this flight was impossible to fly due to al
102 CALMSP : yes......the last flight EWR-IAH every night is packed with AI bags.........that weigh about 100lbs. a piece....now that we will fly non-stop the bags
103 Karan69 : It wont make much difference at DEL due to the night time and the fact that they will be operating the flight preety close to the dreaded fog season,
104 IAHTowTeam : I hope when we get the 787 we start service to South Africa...Cape Town or Johannesburg. Hopefully it will open up markets like Sydney from Newark. I
105 CoTXDFW777AA : No, CO will keep the 777 on the Shanghai and Beijing routes, they can easily fill those planes, thanks to them being the only one on that route. I bet
106 GoCOgo : Unless the 787 beats range expectations, I think SYD will be out of range. They could always go for a 772LR, I suppose, or serve from IAH.[Edited 200
107 Karan69 : I dont think their loads are all that great on DXB-JFK sector, can anyone check and confirm this, BTW are not EK and CO FFP partners
108 CALMSP : well at times out of IAH......we put 60-70 pax per LGW flight connecting to DXB.......so there may be even more out of EWR. This doesnt include any in
109 Post contains images Jasepl : I concur. However, unlike AI, CO probably aren't relying on a near-total O&D market out of New Jersey and the Philadelphia region. EWR is CO's primar
110 N1120A : They would need a 772LR for EWR-SYD
111 Klwright69 : OK, here is a related question! Is there the potential for CO to do a flight from EWR to Karachi nonstop? Maybe they could combine it with service to
112 Aseem : no major airlines besides EK serves KHI or any other city in Pakistan. CO can very well be the first... rgds Aseem
113 Skyguy : I just flew this flight and also happen to have a close friend at EK. It is true, the JFK-DXB route had poor load factors when it opened up last year
114 Misbeehavin : CX flies KHI-BKK-HKG and BA flies ISB-LHR.
115 2travel2know : Good enogh reason to fly EWR > LOS and they should continue that flight to LAD and DLA There's oil in GYD (Baku Azerbajian) too..
116 Behramjee : To KHI we have : EK-QR-GF-MH-TG-CX-TK-EY-RJ-SV as the top guns with EK leading the way big time. To LHE we have : EK-QR-KU-GF-TG-SV with TG minting $
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