DL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11433 posts, RR: 81 Posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8931 times:
In a recent interview Scott Carson said that he was able to get approval from Seattle to close a deal in 20 minutes
"Two weeks ago, Carson said, he was able to close a sale with a European customer in 20 minutes -- the time it took to get the OK from Boeing executives back in Seattle.
There was a time when that process could have taken as much as two days, he said.
Carson would not identify the customer, saying an announcement could come in a couple of weeks."
as opposed to the multi day process it took just a few months ago. This interview was about Boeings streamlining of their sales process and how they plan to increase marketshare.
My question is this....what European airline just concluded a deal with Boeing to buy new airliners?
Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51 Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 8593 times:
I'm going to predict that it will be a major order for the 787 to an established Boeing customer, either AF/KL or BA. I'm basing this on the quickness on the approval by Boeing's higher ups.
Hoya From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 361 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8245 times:
Maybe LOT decided to pick the 787 over the A350. Decision is supposed to be made soon. Anyone else in Europe publicly looking at new planes? Maybe a LH or BA 787 order.
PM From India, joined Feb 2005, 6715 posts, RR: 66 Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8204 times:
Quoting Srbmod (Reply 4): I'm going to predict that it will be a major order for the 787 to an established Boeing customer, either AF/KL or BA. I'm basing this on the quickness on the approval by Boeing's higher ups.
Quoting Hoya (Reply 5): Maybe LOT decided to pick the 787 over the A350. Decision is supposed to be made soon. Anyone else in Europe publicly looking at new planes? Maybe a LH or BA 787 order.
I find it hard to see AF buying the 787 any time soon and KL are about to start receiving the first 6 of up to 24 A330s (not that I expect them to take all 24). BA hardly seem in buying mood these days though the 787 seems an obvious choice for them - ultimately. LH are known to be looking for a replacement for the 300-600 so could that be the 787-3? But, if he's talking about the 787, then LOT, Aer Lingus or another charter airline (TUI Group?) are the most likely customers.
PANAM_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 3987 posts, RR: 93 Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 8095 times:
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Quoting Hoya (Reply 5): Maybe LOT decided to pick the 787 over the A350
I'd agree though they only recently asked for RFPs to be re-submitted and that doesn't quite fit the time frame which is being spoken of. For approval to be granted in such a manner leads me to believe that Boeing got a "one shot" chance to "win" an order and took it. Be very interesting to see who this will be. However it could well be LOT after all. We wait again.......
GLA MD11 From France, joined Mar 2000, 275 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7064 times:
I would rule out AF / KLM, not interested in 737s (AF has an all Airbus short haul fleet and KLM has enough of those) and using the A330. I cannot imagine 20 more 777 for them.
BA is a possibility: they have lots of 757 that will end up being retired at some point and they should start thinking about their replacement.
LH, they have all they need.
AZ is a possibility if their finances allow that.
PolAir From United States of America, joined May 2001, 893 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6861 times:
same here DAYflyer,
They need these new planes. Old once are ...old, dirty, leased. So how many is LOT wanting? 5-6? LOT would be one of first europeans to fly 787. They already got quite of bit attention from european spotters about first E-170's.
I hope they will design new livery for 787, old one is kinda boring already.
PM From India, joined Feb 2005, 6715 posts, RR: 66 Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6491 times:
Quoting B707Stu (Reply 12): I'm thinking its KLM, they love the T777.
How do you know?
Quoting BA380 (Reply 10): LH...for political reasons.
Don't agree. And LH have said that they don't want to rely on just one supplier. Airbus don't offer anything that'll do the FRA-TXL shuttle (well, they do - it's the A300 but that's what LH want to replace) which is why they did some trials with the 757-300 a year or so back.
Btblue From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 531 posts, RR: 4 Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6490 times:
How about bmi?
I read somewhere on here they are due to make a major announcement. That could mean anything.... Probably not an order for the 787 but worth mentioning.
NYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5147 posts, RR: 49 Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6230 times:
How about Finnair, they have been in talks for, I believe, up to 8-10 787s.
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25 Gokmengs: THY is also considering buying the 787 or A350. Hey they are profitable and decided to double the capacity.(they already ordered a mix of 737's-A330's
26 PANAM_DC10: He doesn't, he has just expressed his opinion which he's entitled to do. Good call NYC777 Cheers
27 AirRyan: Wow, I'd like to have Scott's job - it must be a dream selling Boeing jets to airlines!
28 Ken777: This is the fun time - waiting to see who bought, how many and what they bought. Since the article didn't mention which plane(s) were ordered it could
29 Shamrock350: Could well be bmi, but they are also an all airbus fleet.
30 Morvious: Little off topic, but would the 787 fit a charter like Martinair? I thought they were looking for more 767's, would a 787 do the trick for them to?
31 GLA MD11: I would say brand new aircrafts are too expensive for charters like Martinair. Juste my 2cts.
32 PlaneSmart: Could it be a 747/777 customer, with the mix of aircraft depending on whether it's a 747ADV/777 order (if the ADV goes ahead) or 744/777 if it doesn't
33 LifelinerOne: Rumours are getting stronger here that Martinair is going to get brand new A330's, right from the AF/KLM-options that are already ordered... Cheers!
34 DL021: Aren't two of the airlines ordering 787s charter outfits? BluePanorama and the First Choice? LOT seems logical but I did not know Finnair is looking.
35 DfwRevolution: Pleanty of charter carriers order new aircraft. Heck, the second customer for the 787 was First Choice/Blue Panorama The 787-300/800 is one hell of a
36 UA777222: Is it possible for the 900X? Or is that not even off the ground yet. There were talks that this could be approved and cert. in less than a year... Onl
37 OzGlobal: Who Is Boeing's "Mystery Customer"? A European-based mystery customer? I know, he lives just down the street: The American defense attaché.
38 PM: Of course we are all entitled to express opinions (it's mostly all we can do ) but "They [KLM] love the T777." sounds like something based on facts r
39 PANAM_DC10: No PM there isn't though the way I read it, it was just a bloke expressing what he'd like to see. I guess the follow on order for 2 772ER late last y
40 PM: Me too which is why I'd like to see some evidence. (Not that I'm doubting in any way that KLM would be not be perfectly happy with their 777s.) But o
41 Morvious: I already danced two round around my chair!! That would really be awesome. Especially in the new colors
42 B707Stu: Finnair seems a smart pick. THe MD-11 HEL-JFK service is getting old and the 787 would give them, given my guess, repeat, my guess, at interior US tra
43 PANAM_DC10: Well here's a fact we can both use. It wasn't KLM on the 777 given they just leased 2 more via ILFC. So, he at least got what he wanted, more 777s at
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