Hr001 From Honduras, joined Nov 2004, 303 posts, RR: 3 Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1835 times:
Interesting, also predicting no profits in 2005 due to oil prices!!.
They claim they will have the newest fleet in the Americas this year again
"Esto marca un proceso importantísimo porque nos permite decir que somos la flota más nueva de América”, aseguró.""
Copa has the newest fleet when the older A-320 get replaced TACA will reclaim this title but not this year.
Mt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6353 posts, RR: 7 Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1826 times:
Question: How do you categorize fleet newness?
Technically a 1 plane operation with a a new plane is the newest fleet. Right?
HR001 From Honduras, joined Nov 2004, 303 posts, RR: 3 Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1819 times:
Age of a fleet can´t decided by 1 plane. Number of planes divided by the age of each plane tells you the average fleet age. Some of TACA's A-320 already have 7 years. Copa's fleet replacement started in 2000-2001. Both are great airlines and proudly Central America's 2 largest airlines have completed their fleet renewal in the recent past, and both are expanding TACA with more A-319's and 320's plus the first A-321 in Latin America. and Copa with the EMB-190 that start to arrive later this year.
MAC1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 21 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1816 times:
Some time ago there were articles in the Mexican press linking TACA to an Mexican investment company (led by Pedro Aspe) with the goal to start a low cost airline in Mexico. Perhaps this project was incorporated in their recent new aircraft order? Any news from Central America on this?
MGA From Nicaragua, joined Mar 2005, 726 posts, RR: 4 Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1783 times:
TA felt the pressure, and they knew what to do... Their central american monopoly is starting to crumble... The fare modification is the ONLY reason their traffic is up...
MGA From Nicaragua, joined Mar 2005, 726 posts, RR: 4 Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1754 times:
Mt99.
I am simply implying that their service is getting worst and worst. I had to watch star trek insurection or some crap like that on my last flight. And that was business class...
Mt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6353 posts, RR: 7 Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1739 times:
Quoting MGA (Reply 7): I am simply implying that their service is getting worst and worst.
"Worse and worse" = cheaper. Simple.
Its a state of the entire industry, not limited to 1 ariline or the other.
I had to suffer through bad movies on TA as well. DO they have different movies in Business Class?
But, they were the cheapest. I was not going to pay an additional $200 for a movie.
Mt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6353 posts, RR: 7 Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1720 times:
Quoting MGA (Reply 9): pay a lot of money for the tickets and TA offers almost an LCC product.
LCC at LCC prices, with the new reductions. whats your point?
Service expectation should change whe price changes.
Then, the routes are so short. You cant go on without food for 3 hours?
How many "full service airlines" provide you a "full service" nowadays?
Mt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6353 posts, RR: 7 Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1714 times:
Mt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6353 posts, RR: 7 Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1709 times:
Hardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 52 Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1706 times:
Can I ask an "outsider" question? As far as I know, TA operates a dual-hub strategy: SAL and LIM, correct? What about SJO, could it be consider the third hub? Why SAL and not MGA or GUA? Wouldn't it make sense to operate a single-hub like CM does with PTY? What could be the hub in case TA would operate under a one-hub system?
MGA From Nicaragua, joined Mar 2005, 726 posts, RR: 4 Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1700 times:
exactly... they charge the same as the other airlines which we know are not LCC. Compare to other markets. Try Air Madrid, Jetblue, etc... see the diference?
Mt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6353 posts, RR: 7 Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1702 times:
SJO is a HUB too
I thinkk it work like this:
SAL - Hub towards north
SJO - Hub toward south
LIM - South America Hub
TACA's headquarters are in SAL.. SAL offers a big modern airport, with tons of space for expansion. GUA is extremely small. dotn know bout MGA airport. But i think economic conditions also favor a hub in SAL when compared to MGA
SJO - pretty obvuous why it is a hub, huge tourism trafiic.
Mt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6353 posts, RR: 7 Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1698 times:
Quoting MGA (Reply 16): Compare to other markets. Try Air Madrid, Jetblue, etc... see the diference?
MGA From Nicaragua, joined Mar 2005, 726 posts, RR: 4 Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1689 times:
Mt99:
I am basing it on the fact that they charge the same as non-LCC carriers and offer an inferior product.
MGA
P.S. MGA was not category 1 so it could not become a HUB. The main reason SAL is their HUB is because there is a huge amount of salvadorians living out of the country, specialli in Los Angeles.
HR001 From Honduras, joined Nov 2004, 303 posts, RR: 3 Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1694 times:
Hardiwv: SAL is oriented as a HUB to passengers flying from or to Central America from Mexico, USA and CANADA and CUBA. SJO is oriented to Passengers to South America from/to Central America. and LIM as as South American HUB. I also Guess that neither SAL or SJO would be able to handle all the TACA traffic as a single hub.
Hardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 52 Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1681 times:
MGA, Mt99, HR001:
Tks for the information about TA three-hub strategy and the HQ in SAL (I thought it was SJO). I myself would think that it makes far more economic sense if TA keeps only one or maximum two hubs...
Quoting Mt99 (Reply 17): TACA's headquarters are in SAL.. SAL offers a big modern airport, with tons of space for expansion. GUA is extremely small. dotn know bout MGA airport.
Tks for the info. MGA airport is also undergoing renovation, and the arrival area is already brand new and nice.
MGA From Nicaragua, joined Mar 2005, 726 posts, RR: 4 Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1664 times:
Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 22): They charge you (around) 15 euros for the food (in coach). Not Iberia. And I´m talking in their route MAD/SJO and viceversa.
Thats why there is a diference in ticket price of about $200 compared to IB...LCC-Full service
Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 23): Which monopoly? It´s a duopoly (along with CM).
You are right. Now it is a duopoly. The monopoly has already crumbled. CM until now is offering conections to LAX, JFK, MIA etc... and bought those nice looking NG's.
MGA
Que viva el guaro, el dinero y los aviones!!!
25 TACAA320: It´s a duopoly since long time ago. Those NG are really nice. And just wait for the brand new A321s this October.
26 MGA: TACAA320: All the conections I mentioned are fairly new, considering they use to dominate the Central America-LAX, MIA and JFK routes until a couple o
27 TACAA320: Probably yes. More seats, more business.
28 CptGirmayTesfa: Does anyone know what is the minimum flight time for Taca to distribute headphones instead of a cabin-filling audio programme?
29 Mt99: Again. How much would an LCC charge for SAL-LAX? You cannot comapare the prices charged by UA/AA/TA with fictional airline. It can be the nicest most
30 MGA: hahaha. You are saying it yourself! you are including them in the same category! The carrpy service offered by TA is not the same as UA/AA but they D
31 TACAA320: Honestly, I don`t know. With all due respect MGA. If you have several options between LAX and MGA, AND HATE so much TA, why not avoid it, why not sto
32 TACAA320: I really don´t understand your sentence. But this is not a matter of Salvadoran pride. It`s a matter of Central American (100 % pure) pride. Without
33 MGA: I am HORIZONTE. Dont get me wrong, I dont hate TA. Unfotunattly its as close as Nicaragua gets to having a real airline. I always get a decent seat,
34 HR001: add Hondurans To it. TACA offers us as you say a decent seat, a clean and young aircraft BUT and I stress It BUT most on board talk about TACA did th
35 MGA: I'll take that. Its true. as i said in reply 33, Its as close as Nicaragua is Gonna get to a real airline... But Salvadorians seem to take TA represe
36 Mt99: I havent flown enough those routes with the different airlines. So i am going to give you the benefit of the doubt when refering to service. If it we
37 TACAA320: I just did a research at: taca.com., aa.com and copaair.com, flying from LAX to MGA on May 1st. coming back to LAX on the 15th. Here are the results:
38 TACAA320: Correction to my previous post. TA US$737,15
39 MGA: If AA would be the one flying 4 times a day LAX-SAL, and offered the conections theyre market would be up to. Trust me, its not the TA service people
40 Mt99: Excatly. But you seem to be after first run movies and free filet mignon to be served in coach. Can u have it all? crazy sales, decent connections. m
41 RootsAir: Yup....its a disgrace to those that have to take code shared flights with TACA. When coming from Europe you pay a full fare ticket and cannot take ad
42 Mt99: Theni ts not TACA's fault. Its the european companies that AGREED witrh TACA to code share. What u are saying doesnt make any sense. True. But hey, e
43 MGA: Thats true... Those Europeans must get a kick out of watching "Necessary roughness"(1990) and paying for a 6 buck sandiwich combo! But hey, thats wha
44 2travel2know: About MGA - Yes, MGA is going to be a very nice airport, just fix the parking and add a pedestrian overpass to that airport hotel. After renovations,
45 EddieDude: Interesting MAC1. I had never heard anything about TA possibly linking with Protego but I will try to see if I found anything about it.
46 TACAA320: First time I heard that. AA is not even a TA's shareholder. What I mean, is that only Central American investors are in Taca today [who knows tomorro
47 MGA: About Me??? Give us some more info on that... For what I know, TA and AA codeshare with each other... If anything, TA tips AA for good routes they ar
48 TACAA320: MGA Aside the codeshare between AA and TA, the rest is pure speculation, without any ground. Even more, their liveries don't look alike like some oth
49 TACAA320: Just because someother else receive orders from somewhere in TX?
50 2travel2know: The owners of 49% in a company have rights to order those with 51% ? If that airline really follows orders from Texas, that airline had long have sto
51 TACAA320: 49% in just one hand is a majority if the other 51% is disseminated between many shareholders. So the answer is YES. Aero Costa Rica was very bad adm
53 MGA: If it were up to AA, they would be flying a whole lot more to HAV. USA airlines would love to have the chance to serve that market... MGA
54 TACAA320: As simple as you said. But apparently some people don't understand that. By the way, I saw about three weeks ago a TA's 320 leaving MIA to HAV at con
55 MGA: TA has been flying an LAX-HAV every thursday I believe for a travel agency. I dont get why they let them fly directly from the US to HAV. This has be
56 2travel2know: El Salvador doesn't have diplomatic relations with Cuba, Cubans wishing to visit El Salvador have to apply for visas in 3rd countries. So it's very,
57 TACAA320: As I told you they are TA charters from MIA to HAV. How often? I don't really know. But they are very sucessful according to some information I have.
58 Rojo: Ohh yea, I really love TACA and specially the new fare structure. Now I can travel cheap between Mexico and Central/South America. Just bought a tick
59 Hardiwv: Interesting. About two weeks ago in HAV I saw a Cubana A319 (HAV-YYZ) still in TA colours...anything knows anything about this? Rgs,
60 Hr001: Since the TACA planes are not registered in el Salvador there is no problem with that. TACA uses the EI registered airbuses for that route
61 MGA: I dont think its only a matter of where the planes are registered... I would guess at least where the airline has been incorporated, its home base an
62 Rojo: EI-XXX is the registration you get when you register a plane in Ireland. Taca has some of its airplanes registered in Ireland: View Large View Medium
63 Rojo: You can go MEX-LIM-EZE-LIM-MEX for the same price. I just wanted to fly all day and get to know some more airports...
64 MGA: ok... now it makes more sense... I see you bleed kerosene like many here... MGA
65 TACAA320: Guatemala is the land of the eternal spring. Antigua is just "mandatory" for every foreign visitor. San Salvador is just 4 hours from Guatemala City
66 Mt99: This is not the forum to go into details. If you want open a thread on the non-aviation and id be happy to say more. So only some quick notes. Tazuma
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