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CO Applies To Begin Flights To Shanghai  
User currently offlineYUL332LX From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 820 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2874 times:

Continental Airlines Applies to Begin Nonstop Flights From New York/Newark to Shanghai, China
Thursday April 7, 10:25 am ET


HOUSTON, April 7 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Continental Airlines (NYSE: CAL - News) announced today that it has formally submitted an application to the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) for approval to operate nonstop flights from its hub at New York/Newark Liberty International Airport to Shanghai, China. If approved, Continental will introduce flights in March 2007 and will use the 283-seat (48 BusinessFirst, 235 economy) Boeing 777 aircraft. Continental will also offer online connecting service between Shanghai and points throughout the U.S., Europe and Latin America.

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http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050407/dath023.html?.v=6


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User currently offlineSupa7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2854 times:

This is one of the more obvious uses for the 777 anybody's thought up recently.

User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2839 times:

I think CO will have a strong case. UA is asking for SFO-CAN, which is also a strong case. What are the other US airlines requesting for 2007?

User currently offlineYUL332LX From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 820 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2790 times:

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 2):
I think CO will have a strong case. UA is asking for SFO-CAN, which is also a strong case. What are the other US airlines requesting for 2007?

I believe DL (ATL-PEK) is in the run for '07



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User currently offlineGoCOgo From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2723 times:

If at first you don't succeed, try try again. I hope they get it.


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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 46
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2659 times:

Quoting YUL332LX (Reply 3):
I believe DL (ATL-PEK) is in the run for '07

And will be shut down again (and I say that as a Delta fan). If there is obivously so much demand for US-China service (pax AND freight), why don't the 2 countries try to reach an open skies agreement? Too much protecting each countries own airlines from too much competition?


User currently offlineAvek00 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4282 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2641 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 5):
If there is obivously so much demand for US-China service (pax AND freight), why don't the 2 countries try to reach an open skies agreement?

1. The Chinese carriers are not yet in a position to compete in an unrestricted Open Skies environment; and

2. Managed frequency growth allows for traffic increases without massive fare discounting to stimulate demand.



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User currently offlineIAHTowTeam From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2606 times:

I am surprised they are applying for Shanghai so early...has this ever happened before, 2 years out?

User currently offlineDutch122 From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2518 times:

You better be first before it is too late.

Dutch122


User currently offlineYUL332LX From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 820 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2514 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 5):
And will be shut down again (and I say that as a Delta fan). If there is obivously so much demand for US-China service (pax AND freight), why don't the 2 countries try to reach an open skies agreement?

I don't know about that. DL is already the DOT's back up carrier if AA's plan for '06 (out of ORD) doesn't materialize.

DL's chances for 2007 are as good as it gets methinks.



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User currently offlineJtamu97 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 658 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2512 times:

Why are all the Asian flights starting up and being applied for leaving out of EWR? Is it because of the population in the region, connections or what? Seems like the IAH-Tokyo flight does fairly well. Anyway just wondering.

Later,
J



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User currently offlineIAHTowTeam From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2491 times:

Quoting Jtamu97 (Reply 10):
Why are all the Asian flights starting up and being applied for leaving out of EWR? Is it because of the population in the region, connections or what? Seems like the IAH-Tokyo flight does fairly well. Anyway just wondering.

Has something to do with NY being the financial captial of the world.


User currently offlineDsa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2462 times:

Agree they have a strong case, would be nice to see this route operating!

User currently offlineYUL332LX From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 820 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2480 times:

Probably just a matter of time before CO applies for PEK and/or PVG out of IAH but right now, DOT's priority is to increase North-East USA/China non-stop flights.

[Edited 2005-04-07 21:15:04]


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User currently offlineJtamu97 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 658 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2401 times:

I can see about the financial aspect, I guess I am just always thinking about myself and Tourism. We had planned to go to China before SARS hit a few years ago. We were going IAH-LAX on CO then LAX to Bejieng on JAL with a stop in Tokyo. I hope we will get non stop flights to China one day out of IAH, sure would be a nice addition. Anyways, I am happy for CO and hopefully they will get these routes.

Later,
J



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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2385 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 5):
If there is obivously so much demand for US-China service (pax AND freight), why don't the 2 countries try to reach an open skies agreement?

The 2004 agreement raises the number of weekly flights from 54 to 249, phased in until 2011. Next year another round of negotiations will begin, with the US pushing for full Open Skies. See:
http://usinfo.state.gov/eap/Archive/2005/Mar/14-492650.html


User currently offlineQuig From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2365 times:
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India now China I think they need more 777, Any rumors out their ?

User currently offlineDAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 46
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2324 times:

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 15):
The 2004 agreement raises the number of weekly flights from 54 to 249, phased in until 2011. Next year another round of negotiations will begin, with the US pushing for full Open Skies. See:
http://usinfo.state.gov/eap/Archive/....html

Thanks for the full info  Smile . With that info, I guess even Delta will finally be able to get flights to China Big grin .

Quoting YUL332LX (Reply 9):
DL is already the DOT's back up carrier if AA's plan for '06 (out of ORD) doesn't materialize.

Nice to know, although only a BK filing could lead to AA not being able to operate that route.


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