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Lufthansa Adds 11 BAe 146  
User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4073 posts, RR: 44
Posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2119 times:

Lufthansa has decided to add 11 ex-Aer Lingus and Buzz BAe 146-300 to its fleet. Eurowings will get 6 frames, Air Dolomiti 5. At the same time LH has sold and leased back 3 ARJ85 to BAE SYSTEMS. With this move and the recent purchase of SWISS, the LH Group should be the biggester BAe146/ARJ operator in the World. Makes me wonder what will happen to the LX Embraer 170/195 order... this move rather implicates a preference by LH to wait and see what the C-Series offers.


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User currently offlineFoxy From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 179 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2043 times:

Great news



User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2036 times:

Seems to me LH are not very impressed by the jungle jets - good news!  Wink


Regards
Udo

User currently offlineGodBless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2746 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1955 times:

Quoting Udo (Reply 2):
Seems to me LH are not very impressed by the jungle jets - good news!

From all I know, they never have.
But why BAe's and not Avros?

Max

User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1913 times:

Quoting GodBless (Reply 3):
But why BAe's and not Avros?

There is only a small number of RJ70s available, no RJ85 and RJ100s.


Regards
Udo

User currently offlinePM From Japan, joined Feb 2005, 6559 posts, RR: 67
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1892 times:

I've heard about persistent reliability issues and some airlines claim the economics of the 146/ARJ are awful but they still seem quite popular and I love flying on them. (So long as it's 5 abreast and not 6!  crowded  ) In fact, I've made more than 70 146/ARJ flights and it's quite a favourite of mine. I'd much rather be on an ARJ than a CRJ or ERJ-145 or Saab 2000. (I haven't tried the 170/175 family yet.) I wonder if LH have had positive customer feedback?

Such a shame that BAE pulled the plug. I suppose they knew what they were doing (though I wouldn't put money on it) but there was still life in the project and I suspect they'd have reached 500 or so sales.

User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1526 times:

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Thread starter):
Eurowings will get 6 frames

I am rather surprised about that. When I worked for Eurowings I saw very often in the daily flight operation report that the BAe146's had technical problems, some people told me that EW was totally unhappy with these planes and rumor had it that they wanted to get rid of them.

Anyway, I don't fly with Lufthansa and their ilk anymore so I couldn't care less about their fleet policy.

Patrick

User currently offlineGodBless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2746 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1501 times:

I saw a WDL BAe 146 take off before and then I remembered that that was an ex-EW plane, so they must have started to remove the type from the fleet. So thinking about it again, it's really a drastic change in fleet policy. First removing and then adding...
Maybe we are moving away from airlines only looking at the average age when considering moves with their fleet (LH and the BAe, various airlines and the F100,...).

Max

User currently offlineBeechcraft From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 828 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1427 times:
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I´m still wondering what LH has in the pocket for CityLine...
Any Rumours on that?

Denis


That's it! You people have stood in my way long enough. I'm going to clown college!
User currently offlineSQ325 From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 1432 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1303 times:

Rumors about CLH!
None, currently everything is getting worse!
The swiss delay will most likely delay all possible news for CityLine!
One of the OLD WDL BAes will go to air Dolomiti which is a shame bcause Air Berlin was everything else than satisfied with those 20+ year old birds.

Why no more RJ for CLH?
Some stupid trouble between the pilots association and Lufthansa. At CLH the situation especdially for the first officers is extremly bad there is no perspective for us. A large number is thinking about moving to another Airline like LTU, CX s.o.

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