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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9664 posts, RR: 68
Posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4698 times:
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The second 737-800 for Air India Express will be heading eastbound this time, instead of routing through Hawaii. I don't have the routing info once it leaves Gander, but the callsign is "Air India 160."

Good luck.

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User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2135 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4626 times:

Any idea whether they managed to get an earlier production slot than originally scheduled for the aircraft ? Only ask because I don't see her on planemad's lists. Thanks !

P.S. Great photos ! Not sure if the customer is 6Q on this one because it may be a different leasing company


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User currently onlineCOSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1651 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4598 times:

We had it pass thru SPN...Elephant one side Camel on the other all dressed up..Great looking plane...sorry we are missing this one  Sad

User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4610 times:

Quoting WestWing (Reply 1):
Any idea whether they managed to get an earlier production slot than originally scheduled for the aircraft ?

Nope. All on schedule. Third one is also due within the next few weeks.

Rumor mill says that the third one will have Kathakali masks on the tail, which should make for some interesting spotting!

Quoting Clickhappy (Thread starter):
I don't have the routing info once it leaves Gander

Rumor mill also says that they will try to hit PIK nonstop from YQX depending on conditions.


User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2135 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4576 times:

Quoting B747-437B (Reply 3):
..the third one will have Kathakali masks on the tail

Yes, I saw that on the AI Express website (one side). Thanks.

Do you know if they are leasing #2 and #3 from CIT ? Or is that unpublished information ?

[EDIT: Sorry, should've done a google .. it is published here. 737-8BK ? ]

[Edited 2005-04-09 03:06:38]


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User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4526 times:

These tails look really amazing - good idea for once! I wonder how they went along with the windows of conventional AI?

User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1981 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4508 times:

AIC160 currently routing YQX-LHR...they are showing an ETA of 0932z on my flight tracker, but don't shoot the messenger! About to be one heavily shot airplane on landing as the weather in LHR couldn't be nicer!

Jeffrey



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User currently offlineMrNiji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4496 times:

Just out of curiosity:

Who decides on routings?

I am just curious to know why LHR, with expansive landing fees and constrained capacity.. why not Shannon, Glasgow or so? It would re really nice if someone could explain this to me.

Then, where after LHR? A nonstop is probably not possible.. MOW? DXB? Baghdad Big grin ? Does anyone know the further routing?

Thanks for some insights for someone who has no idea about these things  Sad

Cheers! MrNiji


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4466 times:

I've seen the 1st one at Mumbai undergoing checks at AI Hangar,Initially I thought they were two different Aircraft when I seen it from Different angles as there was a camel & Elephant on opposite sides.
The second one looks good too.
Whens the 1st Flight scheduled & what timings.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9664 posts, RR: 68
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4451 times:
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The third plane has something long and thin on the tail, almost looks like a musical instrument? Or a pipe? Or a snake?

User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2893 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4378 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 8):
Whens the 1st Flight scheduled & what timings

My friends been appointed one of the IFS at AIX, she told me her flight is scheduled for 29th April, mostly from BOM-MUS/AUH


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4354 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 10):
My friends been appointed one of the IFS at AIX

Please convey my condolences. I've been following the entire DGCA versus Air India battle on that issue for a while.

For those less informed about the issue, DGCA came up with a requirement that at least one cabin crew member aboard the aircraft must have at least 12 months of flying experience. Since AIX was hiring fresh off the street, they were getting nailed by this requirement.

The solution was that Air India mainline has been forced to delegate 21 of its juniormost cabin crew who have barely completed 12 months service over to AIX where they will fly as Inflight Supervisors until AIX has enough people to take over from them. They will then return to their positions at the bottom of the mainline seniority list!!!


User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4298 times:

Love the tails....
But the red fuselage florish...the wavy thing going on at the back, seems to me nothing more than an afterthought...doesn't appear to be contected with the other design elements of the corporate identity....just my thoughts.



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User currently offlineUnique From Switzerland, joined Mar 2003, 1703 posts, RR: 35
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4178 times:

It's planned to leave LHR today Sunday, 10th April, at 15.00 hrs UTC as AI160. Next stop Istanbul.

User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4158 times:

Quoting Unique (Reply 13):
It's planned to leave LHR today Sunday, 10th April, at 15.00 hrs UTC as AI160. Next stop Istanbul.

Isn't there a regular terminator AI161/160 BOM-LHR-BOM? If yes, why this flight number (o do they want to replace the rustbucket due to low loads????). Will the plane go IST-DEL (I guess, since it is a lease, it has to stop at DGCA in DEL?) nonstop, or stop somewhere in DXB, AUH??

And could someone ty to answer my question of Re # 7?


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks ago) and read 4148 times:

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 14):
Isn't there a regular terminator AI161/160 BOM-LHR-BOM

AI 160 has been the traditional delivery flight designator for leased aircraft, so I was very surprised when the 777 terminators to LHR were designated that way.

That has been rectified with the Summer Schedule starting last week where the BOM-LHR-BOM revert to the more traditional AI 131/130 designators.


User currently offlineRayPettit From United Kingdom, joined May 2002, 608 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4117 times:

The 737 may be ferrying through LHR as AI have a base there.

There's a whisper that the third one will also come through LHR in about ten days time.


User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2135 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4010 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 9):
The third plane has something long and thin on the tail, almost looks like a musical instrument? Or a pipe? Or a snake?



Some wind instrument (not necessarily the one pictured), would kind of make sense if the port side of the tail has the face of an Indian classical dancer

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 14):
I guess, since it is a lease, it has to stop at DGCA in DEL?)

Does DGCA require re-determination of airworthiness (e.g. flight test etc.) once the aircraft gets to India ? The aircraft has a VT registration (and was fresh off the line) so the certificate of airworthiness ought to already have been issued, right ? Thanks.



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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4004 times:

New deliveries do not have to route via Delhi.

In fact, traditionally AI has operated aircraft as revenue services on their delivery flights.


User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2135 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3884 times:

Quoting B747-437B (Reply 3):
Rumor mill says that the third one will have Kathakali masks on the tail

I guess the mill wasn't grinding exceedingly fine that day  . Looks like VT-AXC has a sitar (port side) and a pair of tablas on the other. The AI Express website may be depicitng some future incarnation.

Boeing Deliveries Thread / April 2005 (by RobK Apr 2 2005 in Civil Aviation) indicates that the VT-AXC delivery flight is imminent.

(Edited to add link to thread).

[Edited 2005-04-18 23:40:18]


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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3864 times:

Quoting WestWing (Reply 19):
I guess the mill wasn't grinding exceedingly fine that day

Mill also messed up with its Prestwick info.  Angry

That miller is now removed from "reliable source" status.


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9664 posts, RR: 68
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3831 times:
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yeah its one of those goofy guitar things Big grin

Will be in LHR at 7am local om the 20th.


User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2135 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3794 times:

So what was the actual routing when AXB was delivered ? YQX-LHR-IST-BOM ?

Images of the Sitar and Tabla for anyone unfamiliar with these.



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User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2135 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3712 times:

Current VT-AXC info (fboweb)

FlightID: AIC160 Type: B738
Origin Apt: BFI BOEING FIELD/KING COUNTY INTL
Dest Apt: CYQX GANDER INTL
Departed: 01:14 PM PDT (2014Z)
Calculated ETA: 02:41 AM GMT (0241Z)



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