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BA 777 Flights To US: Which Have First Class?  
User currently offlineAT From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1050 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5809 times:

With conversion of some 777s to 3-class (JWM) configuration, willthe US flights that operate 777s still all offer First Class?

Also, I have never flown First, but it seems from viewing the cabin that the seating in the 777 is much more spacious. In the 747 it is concentrated in the narrow nose and while I am sure that the seats are equivalent, the cabin looks much more dense.

Any comments?

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User currently offlineAlanUK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5764 times:

AT,

BA's 777 all have First Class to the USA, expect for DENVER. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

The cabin space is possibly more spacious on 777, but the seat is exactly the same on 777 and 747.

Safe flying.
Alan.


User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3713 posts, RR: 28
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5735 times:

TPA and MCO don't have First


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User currently offlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1626 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5737 times:

Dont know about IAH, but it flies durect from LGW, or via Chicago from LHR.

Does it have F on the direct LGW flights?


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33194 posts, RR: 71
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5712 times:

Yes, IAH-LGW has F.

Denver, Tampa, and Orlando do not, as mentioned. The rest all do.



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User currently offlineBAxMAN From St. Helena, joined May 2004, 671 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5669 times:

BWI also lacks First Class.


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User currently offlineSpeedbird2155 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 879 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5606 times:

I personally find First on the 747 much nicer....but then I have a preference for the 747 over the T7.

IAH is one of the few routes from LGW which has the full 4-class service.....think there are only 4 routes from LGW that have this.


User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 39
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5586 times:

Here's the different current configurations for BA's own long-haul destinations:

747 - F,C*,T,W
Bangkok, Bombay, Boston, Buenos Aires, Cape Town, Chicago, Delhi, Hong Kong, Johannesburg, Lagos, Los Angeles, Madras, Mauritius, Melbourne, Mexico, Miami, Nairobi, New York, Phoenix, Rio de Janiero, San Francisco, Sao Paulo, Seattle, Singapore, Sydney, Tokyo, Toronto, Vancouver, Washington

777 - F,C,T,W
Abu Dhabi, Abuja, Atlanta, Bahrain, Baltimore, Barbados, Bermuda, Boston, Cairo, Chicago, Dallas, Detroit, Doha, Dubai, Harare, Houston, Kuwait, Luanda, Muscat, New York, Newark, Philadelphia, Washington

777 - C, T, W
Antigua, Bangalore, Calcutta, Denver, Dhaka, Grenada, Islamabad, Kingston, Montreal, Orlando, Peking, St Lucia, Tampa, Tobago, Toronto

767 - F, C, W
Accra, Dar es Salaam, Tel Aviv

767 - C, T, W
Dubai, Nairobi, New York (MAN)

767 - C, W
Entebbe, Grand Cayman, Lusaka, Nassau, Providenciales

* Some Club cabins on the 747s have 38 seats, others have 70 seats.


User currently offlineDaron4000 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 712 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5507 times:

Why do some 777's not have an F class?

User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5445 times:

To serve secondary routes that don't warrant it. Similar to what Air France is doing by designating the 777s for routes that require it while the A330s and A340s will be doing the routes that don't. Only BA don't have an additional fleet type in the same way that Air France do.

LH423



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User currently offlineSpeedbird2155 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 879 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5399 times:

Quoting Jasepl (Reply 7):
767 - C, W
Entebbe, Grand Cayman, Lusaka, Nassau, Providenciales

Our long-haul 767s are all 3-class service, either First, Club and WT or Club (flat-bed), WTP and WT. Eventually all will have First removed and be reconfigured with Club flat-beds, WTP and WT.

The only 2-class 767s are on our European routes.

Also, BWI is a 3-class service without the First. This route is currently served with a 777, but could possibley revert to 767. The 777s were introduced so that the Club flatbeds could be introduced. This happened around the time that the 767s started being reconfigured.


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33194 posts, RR: 71
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5358 times:

Quoting Speedbird2155 (Reply 6):

IAH is one of the few routes from LGW which has the full 4-class service.....think there are only 4 routes from LGW that have this.

It shouldn't be that surprising. With the exception of Atlanta, Dallas, and Houston, every long-haul route BA has out of Gatwick is a leisure route.



a.
User currently offlineAlanUK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5286 times:

Quoting BAxMAN (Reply 5):
BWI also lacks First Class.

Baltimore is a 4 Class 777 with First.

Sorry AT, I was only thinking of LHR, my base.

regards

[Edited 2005-04-09 14:57:25]

User currently offlineEdina From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 746 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5192 times:

4 class routes from LGW are as follows.....

BDA - VERY high demand in F J & W year round at very high fares too

BGI - High demand for premium cabins throughout winter & school holidays

plus the IAH, DFW & ATL, so 5 in total.........



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User currently offlineSpeedbird2155 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 879 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5111 times:

There is a very high demand for BGI premium cabins year round.

Quoting Speedbird2155 (Reply 10):
Also, BWI is a 3-class service without the First

My apologies, having double checked, BWI has been switched to a full 4-class service.


User currently offlineBAxMAN From St. Helena, joined May 2004, 671 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5030 times:

Being stuck at home and having nothing no point of reference other than BA.com, I'd be grateful to know how somebody is supposed to book First class on a flight to BWI.


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User currently offlineMisbeehavin From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 914 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5019 times:

Quoting BAxMAN (Reply 15):
Being stuck at home and having nothing no point of reference other than BA.com, I'd be grateful to know how somebody is supposed to book First class on a flight to BWI.

Easy.

1. Make sure you have at least £ 3,888.50 of credit on your card or in your account
2. Go to http://www.britishairways.com/travel/fx/public/en_gb?prim=booktrip
3. Hop on the plane


User currently offlineTLVFred From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4993 times:

TLV F will be dropped 1st May 2005 and replaced with C,T,W.

User currently offlineBAxMAN From St. Helena, joined May 2004, 671 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4984 times:

Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 16):
Easy.

1. Make sure you have at least £ 3,888.50 of credit on your card or in your account
2. Go to http://www.britishairways.com/travel/fx/public/en_gb?prim=booktrip
3. Hop on the plane

Excellent advice bigthumbsup 

But not if you want to book flights after 31st May.



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User currently offlineFI642 From Monaco, joined Mar 2005, 1079 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4906 times:

BWI will keep F until the 767 conversion is finished.
Currently there are 4 classes of service on the 777 @ BWI.
When the 767 comes back from dusking, it will have 3.
This is per a Customer Service Supervisor at BWI.



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