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"Proposed" DirectAir MSY Timetable  
User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6572 posts, RR: 51
Posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2206 times:

Obviously this is not a real flight schedule, but if this airline takes to the skies (I have my doubts), and if they are firm with their plan of flying "only 737's" for interstate service from MSY, well, this schedule would probably work for them. They have stated that they want to serve 45+ U.S cities, 7 regional destinations in Louisiana, and ten international destinations. I didn't touch the international schedules in this timetable, just all of the U.S ones. Some of these cities may seem questionable, but I basically went through a list of cities' that DL serves from ATL nonstop and figured which ones could theoretically support at least one 737 flight per day. After all, it wouldn't just be local traffic to/from MSY, but also some connections.

Having a hub in MSY poses some interesting timing challenges for flights, and I have overcome some of these by longer than usual ground time on certain flights and also by having some less-than-ideal early morning departures from several cities. Also, due to the fact that MSY does not have 30 open gates available to a new carrier, I had to spread a lot of connections out, so some cities may only have one or two connecting flights to a certain city while others have more, and others none! Quite a challenge indeed. If you look at the timing of the flights, however, you'll see that there are a lot of connecting oppurtunities available. Basically there are four banks per day going East and West...not every city is served during each bank.

Insights and opinions (negative and otherwise) are welcome as usual.


To: Albuquerque
915a 1055a 737 Nonstop
Fr: Albuquerque
1135a 300p 737 Nonstop
--------------------------------------------------
To: Alexandria
908a 958a BE1 Nonstop
440p 530p BE1 Nonstop
Fr: Alexandria
1015a 1105a BE1 Nonstop
545p 635p BE1 Nonstop
--------------------------------------------------
To: Atlanta
745a 1010a 737 Nonstop
1150a 215p 737 Nonstop
400p 625p 737 Nonstop
750p 1015p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Atlanta
745a 820a 737 Nonstop
1050a 1125a 737 Nonstop
255p 330p 737 Nonstop
705p 740p 737 Nonstop
------------------------------------------------
To: Austin
110p 240p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Austin
400p 530p 737 Nonstop
------------------------------------------------
To: Baltimore/Washington
750a 1110a 737 Nonstop
1135a 255p 737 Nonstop
410p 720p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Baltimore/Washington
620a 800a 737 Nonstop
1150a 130p 737 Nonstop
335p 515p 737 Nonstop
------------------------------------------------
To: Baton Rouge
900a 925a BE1 Nonstop
515p 535p BE1 Nonstop
925p 950p BE1 Nonstop
Fr: Baton Rouge
600a 625a BE1 Nonstop
940a 1005a BE1 Nonstop
550p 615p BE1 Nonstop
------------------------------------------------
To: Birmingham
800a 900a 737 Nonstop
735p 835p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Birmingham
650a 750a 737 Nonstop
1000a 1100a 737 Nonstop
-------------------------------------------------
To: Boston
1130a 350p 737 Nonstop
735p 1155p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Boston
920a 1200p 737 Nonstop
500p 740p 737 Nonstop
-------------------------------------------------
To: Charlotte
1122a 207p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Charlotte
255p 345p 737 Nonstop
-------------------------------------------------
To: Chicago/Midway
800a 1015a 737 Nonstop
1145a 200p 737 Nonstop
315p 530p 737 Nonstop
850p 1110p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Chicago/Midway
800a 1015a 737 Nonstop
1100a 115p 737 Nonstop
240p 455p 737 Nonstop
610p 830p 737 Nonstop
-------------------------------------------------
To: Cleveland
405p 730p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Cleveland
625a 750a 737 Nonstop
-------------------------------------------------
To: Columbus
715a 1020a 737 Nonstop
Fr: Columbus
1100a 1205p 737 Nonstop
-------------------------------------------------
To: Dallas/Ft.Worth
930a 1100a 737 Nonstop
110p 240p 737 Nonstop
530p 700p 737 Nonstop
935p 1105p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Dallas/Ft.Worth
515a 640a 737 Nonstop
840a 1010a 737 Nonstop
1220p 150p 737 Nonstop
400p 530p 737 Nonstop
-------------------------------------------------
To: Denver
850a 1035a 737 Nonstop
1230p 215p 737 Nonstop
535p 715p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Denver
640a 1005a 737 Nonstop
1115a 240p 737 Nonstop
300p 625p 737 Nonstop
-------------------------------------------------
To: Detroit
800p 1125p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Detroit
950a 1115a 737 Nonstop
-------------------------------------------------
To: Ft. Lauderdale/Hollywood
730a 1015a 737 Nonstop
1120a 205p 737 Nonstop
345p 630p 737 Nonstop
735p 1020p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Ft. Lauderdale/Hollywood
700a 750a 737 Nonstop
1055a 1145a 737 Nonstop
245p 335p 737 Nonstop
710p 800p 737 Nonstop
-------------------------------------------------
To: Ft. Myers
400p 640p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Ft. Myers
720p 800p 737 Nonstop
-------------------------------------------------
To: Houston/Hobby
750a 850a 737 Nonstop
910a 1010a 737 Nonstop
1130a 1230p 737 Nonstop
110p 210p 737 Nonstop
410p 510p 737 Nonstop
540p 640p 737 Nonstop
930p 1030p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Houston/Hobby
535a 635a 737 Nonstop
930a 1030a 737 Nonstop
1115a 1215p 737 Nonstop
110p 210p 737 Nonstop
300p 400p 737 Nonstop
550p 650p 737 Nonstop
720p 820p 737 Nonstop
--------------------------------------------------
To: Indianapolis
1140a 140p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Indianapolis
220p 420p 737 Nonstop
--------------------------------------------------
To: Jacksonville
1150a 220p 737 Nonstop
745p 1015p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Jacksonville
715a 750a 737 Nonstop
300p 335p 737 Nonstop
--------------------------------------------------
To: Kansas City
905a 1100a 737 Nonstop
530p 725p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Kansas City
835a 1030a 737 Nonstop
1220p 215p 737 Nonstop
--------------------------------------------------
To: Lafayette
855a 935a BE1 Nonstop
105p 145p BE1 Nonstop
510p 550p BE1 Nonstop
Fr: Lafayette
950a 1030a BE1 Nonstop
200p 240p BE1 Nonstop
605p 645p BE1 Nonstop
--------------------------------------------------
To: Lake Charles
1240p 140p BE1 Nonstop
910p 1010p BE1 Nonstop
Fr: Lake Charles
850a 950a BE1 Nonstop
155p 255p BE1 Nonstop
--------------------------------------------------
To: Las Vegas
925a 1115a 737 Nonstop
520p 710p 737 Nonstop
940p 1130p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Las Vegas
100a 615a 737 Nonstop
930a 245p 737 Nonstop
1245p 600p 737 Nonstop
--------------------------------------------------
To: Los Angeles
915a 1115a 737 Nonstop
525p 725p 737 Nonstop
925p 1125p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Los Angeles
1255a 630a 737 Nonstop
900a 235p 737 Nonstop
1245p 620p 737 Nonstop
--------------------------------------------------
To: Louisville
415p 700p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Louisville
645a 730a 737 Nonstop
--------------------------------------------------
To: Memphis
1220p 135p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Memphis
215p 330p 737 Nonstop
--------------------------------------------------
To: Miami
720a 1010a 737 Nonstop
400p 650p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Miami
1050a 1150a 737 Nonstop
730p 830p 737 Nonstop
--------------------------------------------------
To: Milwaukee
1235p 255p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Milwaukee
335p 600p 737 Nonstop
--------------------------------------------------
To: Minneapolis/St.Paul
850a 1130a 737 Nonstop
530p 810p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Minneapolis/St.Paul
750a 1030a 737 Nonstop
1210p 250p 737 Nonstop
--------------------------------------------------
To: Monroe
1235p 135p BE1 Nonstop
905p 1005p BE1 Nonstop
Fr: Monroe
900a 1000a BE1 Nonstop
150p 250p BE1 Nonstop
--------------------------------------------------
To: Nashville
750a 915a 737 Nonstop
730p 855p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Nashville
630a 755a 737 Nonstop
1010a 1135a 737 Nonstop
---------------------------------------------------
To: New York/LaGuardia
755a 1150a 737 Nonstop
1200p 355p 737 Nonstop
410p 805p 737 Nonstop
805p 1200a 737 Nonstop
Fr: New York/LaGuardia
540a 750a 737 Nonstop
935a 1145a 737 Nonstop
120p 330p 737 Nonstop
510p 720p 737 Nonstop
---------------------------------------------------
To: Oklahoma City
905p 1040p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Oklahoma City
900a 1035a 737 Nonstop
---------------------------------------------------
To: Orlando
730a 1005a 737 Nonstop
1140a 215p 737 Nonstop
345p 630p 737 Nonstop
735p 1010p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Orlando
715a 755a 737 Nonstop
1050a 1130a 737 Nonstop
300p 340p 737 Nonstop
710p 750p 737 Nonstop
---------------------------------------------------
To: Philadelphia
800a 1145a 737 Nonstop
1210p 355p 737 Nonstop
750p 1135p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Philadelphia
915a 1115a 737 Nonstop
105p 305p 737 Nonstop
515p 720p 737 Nonstop
---------------------------------------------------
To: Phoenix
940a 1210p 737 Nonstop
540p 810p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Phoenix
610a 1020a 737 Nonstop
130p 540p 737 Nonstop
---------------------------------------------------
To: Pittsburgh
410p 730p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Pittsburgh
600a 720a 737 Nonstop
---------------------------------------------------
To: Portland
840a 1130a 737 Nonstop
Fr: Portland
1210p 645p 737 Nonstop
---------------------------------------------------
To: Raleigh/Durham
335p 630p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Raleigh/Durham
710p 810p 737 Nonstop
---------------------------------------------------
To: St. Louis
920a 1105a 737 Nonstop
910p 1055p 737 Nonstop
Fr: St. Louis
850a 1035a 737 Nonstop
1225p 210p 737 Nonstop
----------------------------------------------------
To: Sacramento
850a 1120a 737 Nonstop
Fr: Sacramento
1205p 610p 737 Nonstop
----------------------------------------------------
To: Salt Lake City
535p 825p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Salt Lake City
620a 1035a 737 Nonstop
----------------------------------------------------
To: San Antonio
935a 1100a 737 Nonstop
545p 710p 737 Nonstop
Fr: San Antonio
515a 640a 737 Nonstop
1220p 145p 737 Nonstop
----------------------------------------------------
To: San Diego
923a 1115a 737 Nonstop
525p 720p 737 Nonstop
Fr: San Diego
520a 1050a 737 Nonstop
1225p 555p 737 Nonstop
----------------------------------------------------
To: San Francisco
905a 1140a 737 Nonstop
530p 805p 737 Nonstop
910p 1145p 737 Nonstop
Fr: San Francisco
1230a 640a 737 Nonstop
800a 210p 737 Nonstop
1225p 635p 737 Nonstop
----------------------------------------------------
To: San Juan,PR
720a 130p 737 Nonstop
Fr: San Juan,PR
220p 430p 737 Nonstop
----------------------------------------------------
To: Seattle/Tacoma
830a 1125a 737 Nonstop
540p 835p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Seattle/Tacoma
1210p 640p 737 Nonstop
1145p 615a 737 Nonstop
----------------------------------------------------
To: Shreveport
1230p 140p BE1 Nonstop
530p 640p BE1 Nonstop
910p 1020p BE1 Nonstop
Fr: Shreveport
525a 635a BE1 Nonstop
900a 1010a BE1 Nonstop
155p 305p BE1 Nonstop
----------------------------------------------------
To: Tampa/St. Petersburg
740a 1005a 737 Nonstop
1150a 215p 737 Nonstop
355p 620p 737 Nonstop
805p 1030p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Tampa/St. Petersburg
710a 750a 737 Nonstop
1045a 1125a 737 Nonstop
300p 340p 737 Nonstop
705p 745p 737 Nonstop
----------------------------------------------------
To: Washington/National
1115a 230p 737 Nonstop
740p 1050p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Washigton/National
930a 1100a 737 Nonstop
310p 440p 737 Nonstop
----------------------------------------------------
To: West Palm Beach
350p 630p 737 Nonstop
Fr: West Palm Beach
715p 800p 737 Nonstop

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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2139 times:

Well--it will be interesting to see how those flights to Hobby and Atlanta would fair due to the amount of competition. Continental and Southwest have such a stronghold on the Houston-New Orleans route I wonder if those flights could be supported. Does the airline have a website yet?


Third Coast born, means I'm Texas raised
User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6572 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2118 times:

No website yet.

The most recent press release states that the airline wants to start operations with 50 737's. They are going to ask the state for $1 billion in loans for the financing of the aircraft.


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6771 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2111 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 2):
They are going to ask the state for $1 billion in loans for the financing of the aircraft.

What? They asking Louisiana for $1Bil? Hehehehe.. I wonder how many of the Louisiana Congress are going to be laughing at them.. Wow! That's gutsy.. if they get it.. I say they order 50 737 and 30 E75.. Might as well..

Are those 737 going to be 733, 734, or 738?



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineDsuairptman From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 901 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2110 times:

Do any of you know (pending this thing becoming reality) when the may start hiring? I'm about to wrap up college and need to find somewhere to put a hard earned aviation management degree to work.

Thanks.

B.C.



GEAUX SAINTS!
User currently offlineFA4B6 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2092 times:

where do they plan on getting LGA and DCA slots from?

User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3818 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2090 times:

Quoting FA4B6 (Reply 5):
where do they plan on getting LGA and DCA slots from?

took the words out of my mouth.

and where are they getting all of those aircraft from? and how can they start with that many? havent airlines learned their lesson about getting too big too fast?


User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6572 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2094 times:

ERJ170: I don't know how they expect to get a billion bucks in loans, but I guess they figure that the airline would be a huge economic engine for the state...hundreds if not thousands of jobs, tons of revenue, etc. I say good for them. I'll put it like this: If they can't get a billion, I'd like to see them get the $400 million that the Saints want from the state for a new football stadium!

I don't know what series of 737's they are looking at...if I find out something i'll pass it along.

Dsuairprtman, they are "looking" at starting ops by 2007 at the latest. The company is called "DirectAir Holdings" currently, although I don't know if they have an office in MSY or BTR as of yet.


User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6572 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2086 times:

Quoting FA4B6 (Reply 5):
where do they plan on getting LGA and DCA slots from?

Chances are they wouldn't get them, at least initially. I just threw those cities in there since they are ideal.


User currently offlineEjmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2076 times:

I've been thinking OKC needed a N/S to MSY. I wonder if WN would compensate to try to push them out of business.


"If the facts do not conform to the theory, they will have to be disposed of"
User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1941 times:

Between DL, WN, FL, AA, and UA, this airline has as much of a chance as David Duke being elected for anything......

User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1931 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 3):
I wonder how many of the Louisiana Congress are going to be laughing at them

Actually, I wonder how many Louisiana politicians are going to profit from this – when and if it comes to fruition.


User currently offlineMidway2AirTran From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 864 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1900 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 7):
I don't know how they expect to get a billion bucks in loans, but I guess they figure that the airline would be a huge economic engine for the state

Just take it out of education or the roads to force use of the airline...lol j/k!!
Or better yet, they could just hire David Neelman as CEO and get billions in capital from private sources.

Off from the humorus side of things, I like seeing the new start-ups. I would suggest they look to other sources for that much capital other than the state. It sounds rather ambitious starting with 50 a/c and 45 destinations out of MSY. My guessing are those are used a/c. Does MSY really have that strong of O&D traffic? Where is this team getting their research and numbers from? Are these seasoned industry people?

Smells kind of risky to me, but in the face of risk, there can be big reward. With the limited info. I see now, I doubt it.



"Life is short, but your delay in ATL is not."
User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1887 times:

Here is what their route map will look like:

(Already Looks like they will need an interactive one b/c you can't see the cities in Louisiana)

 airplane  jetBlueAtJFK  airplane 



When You Know jetBlue, You Know Better
User currently offlineBoeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1736 times:

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 11):
Actually, I wonder how many Louisiana politicians are going to profit from this – when and if it comes to fruition.

They won't profit at all. They'll lose their ass.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26534 posts, RR: 75
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1729 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 2):
They are going to ask the state for $1 billion in loans for the financing of the aircraft.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

They cannot keep the roads paved in New Orleans and cannot even pretend to have a decent public school system and they will give an airline a billion dollars in loans. You have got to be kidding me. Unless each member of the Legislature is getting a million dollars from said loan, forget about it.

Still Steve, you think they have any chance at actually starting up. Have you heard anything about angels coming out to fund their start up?



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1600 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1680 times:

To: San Diego
923a 1115a 737 Nonstop
525p 720p 737 Nonstop
Fr: San Diego
520a 1050a 737 Nonstop
1225p 555p 737 Nonstop


Ooops! Can't leave SAN at 5:20a...Curfew. Runway opens at 6:30am for departures.  shhh 



Uncle SAN at your service!
User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6771 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1673 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
To: Raleigh/Durham
335p 630p 737 Nonstop
Fr: Raleigh/Durham
710p 810p 737 Nonstop

Actually, those are some very good times.. my only problem is that if an airline is going to do a schedule for RDU, they usually schedule 2 flights.. a morning and afternoon/evening departures for business travelers.. if they are looking for just leisure passengers, then that schedule would do just fine.. I am glad that you included RDU on your flight schedule though, MSYtristar..



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineLambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2077 posts, RR: 36
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1660 times:

Ambitious plan, to say the least.  Yeah sure

User currently offlineBoeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1629 times:

Quoting Coronado990 (Reply 16):
Ooops! Can't leave SAN at 5:20a...Curfew. Runway opens at 6:30am for departures.

Coronado gets it.


User currently offlineStock1985 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1622 times:

If I were going to add one non-hub city from Tulsa it would be New Orleans. I am really surprised that OKC and TUL do not have N/S service to Louisiana. The sheer amount of leisure traffic and a surprisingly high amount of business travel between Oklahoma and Louisiana in oil, etc. I think that Southewest would do great with a once daily service to each. Eventually I bet it will happen, but for now they will probably add more Midway service as they work on that build up. Anyone have any ideas?

User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 978 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1570 times:

16 of their routes directly overlap with WN nonstop service.

That and the sheer ambition, I give that route network a low probability of success  Sad


User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6572 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1534 times:

Dfwrevolution,

Those routes are not proposed by the airline. Just by me. Those are the ones I would pick if I ran the show. WN could use some competition on many of the routes from N.O since many route only see one or two flights per day.


User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1519 times:

it would take several years to build up a schedule like that in new orleans.

the only efficient connecting traffic would be west coast to/from florida markets.



Tired of airline bankruptcies....EA/PA/TW and finally DL.
User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1600 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1508 times:

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 23):
the only efficient connecting traffic would be west coast to/from florida markets.

Plus the Caribbean, Central America and South America.



Uncle SAN at your service!
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