Newark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 31 Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11200 times:
The one I was on, a CO 737 coming into EWR, it was a normal approach until we got close to the threshold. At that point, the engines revved up to max power and the captain started to pull the plane back up. We started to pull some good G's as we started to ascend, and we just shot up. The captain then calmly got on the PA and said the plane ahead of us was still on the runway, and we had to go around and try again.
The way the captain sounded did a lot to calm down the passengers that got worried and didn't know what was going on. A very unique experience, and quite exciting if you know what is going on. If you don't, I can see how it can be terrifying.
Ladies and gentleman, as you have probably noticed, the distance between the ground and the airplane is increasing along with the noise level, this is accompanied by the fact that we are going up instead of down.
Starrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1118 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11191 times:
I was on an approach into Boston after an exhausting 36 hour trip from Hong Kong. Normal approach, all of a sudden I heard the engines spool up and felt the nose come up. Then the gear and flaps retracted. After we were back at altitude the captain said a plane was "stuck" on the runway. We waited for 30 minutes, then just as we were about to divert to PVD they got the plane off the runway and we landed normally.
Turned out that a Fedex jet either an MD-11 or MD-10 had blown it's #3 on takeoff and aborted on the runway.
Jetboyflyhi From France, joined Oct 2004, 179 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11147 times:
There is nothing like the feeling and hearing the sounds of a Go Around. Some are less powerful then others. It all depends on the Aircraft type and runway situation. Also if the gear are down and then retract.(the added sound of gear going up). I as a Flight Attendant love the feeling but if you are on a 45 min or less turn around.....it sucks as well as for the pax with tight connections!
Amy From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 1150 posts, RR: 8 Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11128 times:
Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 2): Ladies and gentleman, as you have probably noticed, the distance between the ground and the airplane is increasing along with the noise level, this is accompanied by the fact that we are going up instead of down.
Thanks, that's so useful. You've obviously had this experience many times and can post knowlegably on the subject.
Jetboyflyhi, Starrion, Newark777, thanks for your replies. I guessed this was roughly what would happen.
FrequentFlyKid From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1204 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11099 times:
My one and only was on a Southwest 737-700 with winglets. We were on final to BWI from ORF when the plane pitched up, power was applied, and the gear and flaps were retracted. At first it's really quiet and you are seemingly hanging in mid-air, then it's very loud and the G's can be felt. Our go-around was a little more unique because it was quite windy that day and we were bouncing all around.
N844AA From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11052 times:
I had a pretty cool go-around experience on an AA 777 going into MIA. It was early fall and sudden thunderstorms, if not a mainstay of Miami falls, certainly were a problem that day.
We were coming in over the Everglades on a bright, sunny day. I'd flown into MIA a few times before, so everything seemed normal until right when we crossed over the line of "civilization" that characterizes the eastern edge of the Everglades. All of a sudden we flew into what looked like a thick bank of fog. Rain began to pelt and sheet down the windows and all of a sudden, it got really dark outside and the plane began to bump and pitch around.
We continued descending into the darkness, so to speak, when all of a sudden the mighty beast shuddered and those huge-ass engines began spooling up. We flew out of the turbulence and, all of a sudden, we were back out in sunlight.
The pilot took the plane out over the Atlantic and headed back toward MIA. Again we passed into the bank of clouds and descended for, oh, I don't know how long. A minute maybe? And again, the pilot executed a go-around. We did this twice more before the pilot announced that the fuel dictated our diversion to FLL.
I had a great time on the go-arounds, even though it meant that I missed my charter flight to HAV later that day. It was a cool experience, though, because I love final approaches and I got four-halves and one full one into FLL that day. Plus I love turbulence. If you could find 300 similarly insane people, you could probably run a pretty successful airline doing nothing but flying missed approaches.
New airplanes, new employees, low fares, all touchy-feely ... all of them are losers. -Gordon Bethune
Spotter From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 86 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11035 times:
I had my one and only "Go-around" on a BA 747 about two years ago flying into LHR from YYZ. Normal approach, sun just begining to rise and the city of London clearly visible. Noticed the little houses getting larger, when the engines spooled up and we made the most incredible climb and turn like the pilot all of a sudden thought he was flying a fighter jet. Must have been spectacular for any spotters that morning, and must say was the most memorable flying experience I have ever had. Most passengers looked very worried and nervous from the sudden scream from the engines, I was incomplete AW!!
Thanks to the aircraft stuck on the runway, you made my morning.
N844AA From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11003 times:
Possibly three, though I'm pretty sure it was four. I wrote a trip report about the incident; I should track that down that thread and confirm my recollection.
I'm not sure what the reasoning was behind the number of go-arounds; I guess they thought that the weather would be clearing imminently. But between the go-arounds and circling FLL before landing, the flight crew exceeded their daily on-duty hours before we could take off from FLL to finally make it to MIA (as the plan originally had been.) We wound up having to take a bus.
New airplanes, new employees, low fares, all touchy-feely ... all of them are losers. -Gordon Bethune
Carpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2883 posts, RR: 4 Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10996 times:
I have experienced three go-arounds:
1. UA DC-10 back in '97 from ORD to LAX. Nice to have Ch.9 when the ATC instructs the flight to go-around over the lights. The pilots went immediately to full power. There apparently was still traffic on the runway.
2. TK A343 inbound for IST a few years ago. No apparent reason. The pilots didn't even come on the intercom.
3. NH 763 a couple of years ago from HND to Kagoshima. The airport was at minimums and the pilots did a missed approached at the decision height. We circled for a 30 minutes until the fog cleared.
TheGov From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 408 posts, RR: 3 Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10980 times:
I had the pleasure of sitting in a window seat adjacent to the #1 engine on a Delta L-1011 that did a go-around. We were travelling DFW-ATL when this event occurred. It was awesome to hear the RB211s spool up and to hear the clunking of the landing gear as it got tucked in to the wheel wells. It didn't seem to bother the passengers much. I wouldn't have minded it so much, but I had put off going to the restroom knowing that we would be on the ground in a couple of minutes. The go-around added 20 minutes to the trip and increased my bladder size greatly. From that point on, if I ever had to go anywhere close to my destination, I always took advantage of the chance before the fasten seat belt sign was turned on.
Wjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4796 posts, RR: 17 Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11006 times:
There was an mpg of a Finnair MD-11 flight from HEL to JFK on here a few weeks ago. After a lengthy transatlantic flight, right after the mechanical female voice announces "minimums", the tower says "Finnair 5, go around. Traffic IS on the runway." The captain (flying) calmly and quietly says, "Go around" and with imperceptible motions of his hands, you can see the pitch change on the attitude indicator and the throttles smoothly advanced. The f/o's hands flick over a couple of contols (flaps, landing gear handle, autopilot panel) as he announces what he's doing and as he listens to the Tower instruct the a/c to turn left to a heading and dial in the Canarsie VOR. It's a high-workload event, but they handle it as if they had expected it all along. Very calm and very professional. (Actually, they probably did anticipate at least the possibility of the go-round. The recalcitrant a/c on the runway, an American flight, has received at least two messages from the Tower to the effect that it needs to get off the runway, "American 160, quick as you can for me." "Wilco." Yeah. And obviously they could see that it was still there, although you can't see that on the video.) What is interesting is how relaxed, unannoyed and calmly they execute the maneuver. In some sense, it's no big deal.
But tell that to the passengers. On a Shuttle flight from Boston a few years ago, we did a go-around coming into LGA. The gaggle of drunk women seated in the several rows behind me, all returning from a company meeting and laughing and chatting as we got within a couple hundred feet of the ground, changed their tune as the maneuver started. It's pretty fun in the back of a 727, particularly if it comes as late as it seemed to here. Engines start to spool up to takeoff thrust, flaps retract, gear comes up, nose glides smoothly up to climb attitude. My seatmates didn't see it that way; they literally started screaming "Oh, my god, we're going to die!" Repeatedly. It is interesting when you don't know *why* you're not landing, but, hey, if you're still flying, so far so good. And most reasons aren't ones such that you should think that there's something wrong with the a/c that would put your life in peril, as these folks plainly did. We were a long time into the go-around (like 5 minutes) before the captain came on to explain. He said he had seen the doors open on the firehouse and the equipment start to emerge to handle something on the intersecting runway, and he decided to go around just in case they got a little too eager and crossed our runway in front of us. The folks behind me, who had settled down somewhat, started claiming loudly, "Now that's just bullshit." Don't know whether they didn't believe him, or thought that he shouldn't have done it, or that he should have told us sooner why he did it. Regardless, I wasn't particularly concerned what they thought.
It actually was a fun ride, but I do see how it can be disconcerting to folks who have no understanding of the process.
IslipWN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 10945 times:
I've experienced 3 go-arounds. One time I was on a KW flight from FLL to ISP. Coming into ISP was very foggy. As we were coming in, It started pouring rain, and got very dark. All of a sudden, increase in throttle, landing grear up, ascending in the air....go-around! It got so bad that after circling for 30 minutes, we had to land in Hartford, CT. According to the captain, it was due to weather.
The second time was FLL-BWI-ISP. Basically the same thing. FLL to BWI was fine. BWI to ISP was not. The flight had been cancelled, and than all of a sudden they came over the loud speaker saying anyone going to ISP, board from gate XX. Once we took off, it was soooo turbulent. Someone screamed out "we are all going to die!!", and then some girl screamed. Anyways, as we were coming into ISP, we did a go-around and went to PVD. After a while at PVD, they decided the weather was good enough to land at ISP. So we took off, went back to ISP, and sure enough, did another go-around and than the captain came over the p.a. and said we are going back to BWI. We went back to BWI and we had a choice of either staying in a hotel or staying in the airport. Of course, I chose to stay at the airport and wandered around for the next 8 hours!
The last time was coming into PBI. There was traffic still on the runway. But this go-around was the most intense. We were so close to touching down. When we went back up, I got light headed (which never happens) and was pushed back into my seat. It was all good though!
DeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 18 Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 10917 times:
Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 15): My apologies for your lack of a sense of humor
I found it funny
Quoting Amy (Thread starter): Is there a surge of acceleration and lots of noise? What does the captain say to the passangers?
Its like taking off again except for the noise of the gear and flaps retracting at the same time.
The captain just tells you what's up although it is never their fault. "Air Traffic Control got us too close to the aircraft in front us, so we had to go around and get back in the pattern. We should be on the ground in about 10-15 mintues." Pretty basic.
It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now.
ACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7625 posts, RR: 38 Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 10920 times:
I've had 2 go-arounds (as a pax, many more as a pilot), and all I can say is...FUN, FUN, FUN!
Both were due to the airports being fogged in. The first was on a WestJet 737-200 flying YVR-YLW. We couldn't make the first attempt so we went around and made it the second time. Then flying from HHN-GRO with a Ryanair 737-800, first attempt failed so we ended up circling for about 30 minutes with another 737 coming in from STN. Anyways, we went for our second attempt and the visibility was still poor. I kept watching out the window and said, we're not gonna make it. 2 seconds later, we hit the runway and went into full reverse and lots of braking. Wow! Everyone was clapping and kept clapping until we reached the terminal, that was cool. As we were leaving the a/c you could hear the other 737 in his 2nd missed approach.
Just the sense of the engines spooling up again and going into a climb, I find it so exciting.
Wjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4796 posts, RR: 17 Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 10888 times:
Now, I know that a go-around isn't necessarily a missed approach, and that breaking off an approach at, say, 1000 feet AGL and being sent back up and into the pattern again isn't necessarily a "missed" approach. But I am curious about something raised by some of the responsive posts here that maybe an ATP pilot can answer.
I had been under the impression that most US carriers had rules about how many missed approaches one can make due to weather before being required to go to an alternate. I seem to remember that criticism coming out of, IIRC, the KAL crash several years ago where the pilot made multiple missed approaches in difficult weather conditions before crashing on the nth approach. (I don't remember how many he tried, but if I had to guess at my recollection, it was like the 5th one that crashed on.) When KAL brought Delta in for what turned out to be their now-famously-brutal assessment of KAL's cockpit practices and procedures, I thought that I remembered one criticism being that there wasn't this kind of policy-driven limitation that would prevent a kind of "go-fever", "I think I can make it next time" mentality from overtaking a pilot's better judgment. Or maybe that was an official criticism of the pilots in this case. So, my question is, with respect to weather-related missed approaches, do most US carriers have a limitation on how many one can make without diverting (or doing something other than setting up for yet another run at it)?
UAopsMGR From Croatia, joined Mar 2005, 144 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 10774 times:
I've encountered one personally. 747-4 from IAD-LAX. Super foggy on approach. We came out of the fog right over the 405 and seconds later the speed and attitude of the AC transitioned to climb. It was exciting for me, but more entertaining looking at the other psgrs trying to figure out what happened. The captain said the AC in front of us had not cleared the runway.
Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.- Homer Simpson
SLUAviator From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 357 posts, RR: 4 Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 10740 times:
I am not sure what the rules are for an airline and how many shots they have at the approach before they go to their alternate. I do know that airlines need to have the approach minimums met before they can even try to go past the initial approach fix. Its not like FAR part 91 where I can shoot the approach even when I know it is below minimums.
What do I know? I just fly 'em.......
25 N844AA: Yeah, it was definitely a cool experience. The rainstorm only enhanced the fun. I thought it was pretty exciting, though I imagine any infrequent or
26 N317AS: The only thing I can come close to on this topic is on a yet to be delivered 747-400, I believe it was for KLM, we shot ten touch and gos at MWH. The
27 ZOTAN: Ive had two. The first, a Southwest 733 from OAK-SAN, was more of a missed approach then a go-around and you couldnt really feel the acceleration, but
28 BEG2IAH: My first (and only) go-around was on a CO772ER. We were just about to land at CDG, and at a height of some 200 feet, engines spooled and those beautie
29 PolAir: Experienced two as pax, both same flight. It was a KLM 743, JFK, late summer. Nasty storm, lots of rain, very turbulent... Don't even recall what capt
30 Flyboy1980: When I was F/A on a flight meant to land at DUD, but was fog bound we had about 3 attempts at landing, and all 3 ended in go-arounds. First was kind o
31 Amy: I have a sense of humour, that just wasn't funny Thanks everyone for posting your experiences! It's a great thing to watch from the ground and it sou
32 Jonty: sorry if this is a stupid question but when its foggy why don't pilots just use the ils to land the plane. Thats what a pilot did on a MAD-LTN flight
33 Jush: I fly FRA-GRU-SCL on Friday on an LH A346 and i just hope i can get a nice go around on that beautiful 600.... would be amazing i reckon... Anyway ver
34 Brasuca: I experienced it past month on board a Varig MD-11 flight between GIG and BSB. We departed GIG on time, with favourable weather. However our descent i
35 PM: Well, maybe I'm just unlucky (though I prefer to think of it as 'lucky') but I've had TEN! SAA 747SP @ PER easyJet 733 @ NCE SR DC-10 @ JFK SR MD-81 @
36 Osteogenesis: On a Mexicana 727 from GDL to MEX the pilot only got 2 greens. He made a slow pas at the tower, so that they could check if the 3 bogey was out. They