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User currently offlineDID747 From France, joined Apr 2005, 400 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 3 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4044 times:

Hi friends,

Can someone tell me the current status of AF 747 fleet. Where are they flying to at this time and what about the models? Is AF still flying some 200 models?

Thank you very much.

DID747

 Smile


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User currently offlineAeroVodochody From Czech Republic, joined Feb 2005, 540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3828 times:

Quoting DID747 (Thread starter):
Can someone tell me the current status of AF 747 fleet.

Very Dirty! Big grin (Sorry couldn't resist)
Yes they still have 742's

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User currently offlineSFOMEX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3779 times:

AF flies a 744 to MEX. They are upgrading it for a 777 during the summer.

User currently offlineDarthRandall From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 302 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3769 times:

I believe they have a pretty comprehensive list on their website. Air France is a great carrier, so I always look them up first on the rare occasions that I get to cross the pond.


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User currently offlineMindscape From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3736 times:

DarthRandall,

I agree with you, but unfortunatly for the summer season 2005, there is no more AF B744 on JFK as it used to be.
AF B742 & B743 pax (I thought that all were already gone) and cargo version are soon to retired with the arrival of additional B773ER.


User currently offlineYULMRS From France, joined Mar 2005, 195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3702 times:

Well, 742 are used on less competitive lines such as ORY-RUN or ORY-FDF

According to their website they have 23 747 PAX and 12 747 cargo

http://www.airfrance.com/double6/Y1/...ishedWeb)/fr-FLOTT-lc?OpenDocument (sorry, French)



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User currently offlineStealthpilot From India, joined May 2004, 510 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3697 times:

"AF flies a 744 to MEX. They are upgrading it for a 777 during the summer."
upgrade?  Smile

-Nikhil



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User currently offlineAeronuts From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3653 times:

I thought I saw a AF 747-400 at LAX - got pretty close from the AA Eagle bus

User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3625 times:

Quoting Stealthpilot (Reply 6):
"AF flies a 744 to MEX. They are upgrading it for a 777 during the summer."
upgrade?

Yes, from daily 747 to 11x weekly 777.



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User currently offlineSFO212 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3417 times:

Saw an Air France 747-400 at SFO over the weekend. It is now the regular aircraft. BTW, it must have just been cleaned. It literally sparkled.

User currently offlineTGV From France, joined Dec 2004, 874 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3339 times:

Since this summer the CDG-CCS flight is operated by a 744.
It received a water canon salute on its first day of operation arriving in CCS, as it is the only 747 serving CCS on a regular basis.

But regular passengers are less than delighted by the change, as the comfort is lower than in the 332 or 343 which were used before. Especially there is no individual video, and a 3-4-3 layout in Eco is of course worst than a 2-4-2 layout.  Sad



Avoid 777 with 3-4-3 config in Y ! They are real sardine cans. (AF/KL for example)
User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26338 posts, RR: 76
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3276 times:

Quoting SFOMEX (Reply 2):
AF flies a 744 to MEX. They are upgrading it for a 777 during the summer.

That is a downgrade. Still, given that MEX has good premium cabin traffic, I would not be surprised to see 772ERs or 77Ws on the route permanently.



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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3217 times:

They also have some B747-300s, saw some at ORY last week.


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User currently offlineCptGirmayTesfa From Peru, joined Oct 2003, 406 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3118 times:

Someone knows if the AF 747-400 has power outlets for laptops?

User currently offlineFlpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2122 posts, RR: 30
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3066 times:

Only the aircraft with the new J-class seats and those with the (old) first class seats have laptop power.


Bonjour Chef!
User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3038 times:

Quoting SFO212 (Reply 9):
Saw an Air France 747-400 at SFO over the weekend.

I hope they go back to the 777's eventually, they actually had an A330 not too long ago (the A340-300 was out for that particular day), that was a bit rare, but I love the AF-777's!!

Quoting CptGirmayTesfa (Reply 13):
Someone knows if the AF 747-400 has power outlets for laptops?

http://seatguru.com/airlines/Air_Fra.../Air_France_Boeing_747-400_CIO.php



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineDaron4000 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 712 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2945 times:

It's weird how routes are being "upgraded" to a 777 from a 747.

User currently offlineUSflt1778 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 268 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2869 times:

Quoting Daron4000 (Reply 16):
It's weird how routes are being "upgraded" to a 777 from a 747.

It is weird, but in the case of AF they are clearly changing the focus of their 744s to be high density tourist transporters by removing first class (previously 13 seats), reducing the size of business class (previously 58 seats, to be refitted with either 40 or 17, depending on the aircraft), and increasing the capacity of economy (previously 321 seats, to be refitted with 393 or 457 depending on the aircraft). Personal video screens in economy are almost non-existant, with the exception of a few aircraft.

The 742/743 aircraft will not be refitted and are scheduled to be withdrawn from service by 2007.


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2828 times:

Quoting USflt1778 (Reply 17):
It is weird, but in the case of AF they are clearly changing the focus of their 744s to be high density tourist transporters by removing first class

You are completely correct, and this is clearly demonstrated in the case of Brazil: GIG gets a daily B747 and GRU a daily B777, in other words, the tourist market gets the B747 and the premium market the B777.

Rgs,


User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3729 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2787 times:
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Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 12):
They also have some B747-300s, saw some at ORY last week.

They have two of them: F-GETA and F-GETB which is the one shown on the picture you put in your post. They both come from UTA. Air France has never ordered any 300's fresh out of the factory from Boeing. In other words, Boeing has never built a 747-328.

Ben Soriano
Brussels Belgium



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7401 posts, RR: 57
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2758 times:

1 B747-200 : F-GCBJ. Will be retired in June 2006. only operated now on ORY-RUN.

4 B747-300 : F-GETA, F-GETB, F-BTDG, FBTDH. Ex UTA a/c. operated only on ORY-FDF & ORY-PTP. To be retired from service in 2006.
F-BTDG/H were initially -200 Combi, converted into -300 Combi. After 1993, converted into all PAX a/c

16 B747-400 all PAX :

F-GEXA & F-GEXB, ex-UTA a/c. F-GEXB is an ex-Combi

F-GITA/B/C/D/E/F/H/I/J.
F-GITG was never taken up by AF and was flown directely from Boeing's airfield to Marana desert. Later sold to Royal Air Maroc and still operated now as CN-RGA

5 ex-Combi :

F-GISA/B/C/D/E.

8 B747-200F + 4 B747-400ERF

During this summer seasons, the AF's B744 fly to :

GIG (Daily), CCS (Daily), SFO (Daily), MEX (4xWeekly), MIA (Daily), LAX-PPT (3xweekly), HAV (4xWeekly), RUN (Daily), PUJ (3xWeekly), SDQ (3xWeekly), JNB (Daily), YUL (Daily), MRU (6xWeekly).


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7401 posts, RR: 57
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2726 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 20):
1 B747-200 : F-GCBJ. Will be retired in June 2006. only operated now on ORY-RUN

Ooooops !  crazy  F-GCBJ will be retired in NEXT JUNE 2005 not 2006...


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7967 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2600 times:

AF will continue to fly the 747-400 for some time because they are perfect for high-traffic summer flying to the USA. That's why during the high season AF flies the 747-400 to SFO, mostly because a lot of French tourists show up at SFO during the summer months on all-inclusive tours.  Smile

User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7401 posts, RR: 57
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2557 times:

Quoting Flpuck6 (Reply 14):
Only the aircraft with the new J-class seats and those with the (old) first class seats have laptop power.

 no  No Chris ! The B744's with the new "COI" version have laptop power also in "Alizée" Class, at the Upper Deck (57 seats).


User currently offlineFlpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2122 posts, RR: 30
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2544 times:

Uh oh FlySSC, I was not aware of that ... thank you for making the correction.

In Alizee, isn't it like one laptop power for each 3 seats, something like that?



Bonjour Chef!
25 Post contains images FlySSC : That's it ! 1 for 3 seats.
26 Icarus75 : You're right. AF flies 747-400 to LAX on the way to PPT and also once a day on the CDG-LAX flight.
27 TAP1972 : I'm a bit lost in here. I'm flying to MRU next May, will the B747 that I'm going to take have PTV's?
28 Post contains links and images FlySSC : Only AF070 CDG-LAX-PPT is operated by a B744, 3 x Weekly (Wed, Fri, Sun ). The DAILY AF 062 + Daily AF072 are operated by a B772ER. It will depend on
29 Mike1974 : to my understanding the CDG-MEX service will be a daily B772 and 4x weekly B744? which will equal 11x weekly flights.
30 FlySSC : I mentionned in my reply#20 the frequencies operated by a B744, not all the frequencies to a destination. MEX is indeed operated 11XWeekly. But only
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