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Engine Part Falls Off NWA DC-10 After Takeoff  
User currently offlinePilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 13916 times:

The thrust reverser nozzle of a Northwest DC-10 engine fell off after takeoff from MSP on Saturday afternoon. The part came off of a DC-10 flying to HNL as flight 97. It landed in a field in Inver Grove Heights (southwest of the airport) where it was found by a civilian who in turn called the police.

Engine part falls from NWA flight bound for Hawaii -- Star Tribune

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User currently offlineGoCOgo From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13828 times:

Good thing the Concorde wasn't following it.  Wink


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User currently offlineKhenleyDIA From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 425 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13816 times:

Oops! I knew I should put that screw back in instead of go to lunch.  Smile

Fortunately no one was hurt and it didn't cause any problems with the plane. I wonder if they are going to ground their DC-10s until they figure it out.

It makes you wonder how often parts fall off planes in flight. Most of the areas planes fly over aren't populated, which means no one would notice, until the plane landed. Unless of course it was critical to the plane. Like say, and engine?

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User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 71
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13794 times:

Quoting KhenleyDIA (Reply 2):
Unless of course it was critical to the plane. Like say, and engine?

Pfft, that'd be no issue for a B747-436.



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User currently offlineTimMSP From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13747 times:

Was it N243NW? I was out at MSP on Saturday.

User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4189 posts, RR: 37
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13717 times:

Oh man...no problem for a 747-436. Well what about a -451? Nerd.



Things come off occasionally... part of an engine cowling will cause some bumpiness from the drag...but its not that big of an issue. The CRJ that i fly can have a thrust reverser actually deploy at V1 and continue the takeoff without any real issue.



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13697 times:

Quoting KhenleyDIA (Reply 2):
Unless of course it was critical to the plane. Like say, and engine?

Didn't the Kalitta Air crew of that one 747 think the engine just shut down, but in fact fell off? I could be mistaken, though.

Harry



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User currently onlineKLMA330 From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 694 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13677 times:

Those DC-10's are done, if you ask me... time to get some new planes NWA

User currently offlineYVRtoYYZ From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 652 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13641 times:

Quoting KLMA330 (Reply 7):
Those DC-10's are done, if you ask me... time to get some new planes NWA

They are rumoured to be doing so. Rumour according to another thread has it that they are considering ordering that B788 as replacements for the DC-10, although delivery wouldn't begin until '09.

-YVRtoYYZ


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7505 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13635 times:

Yes a Kalitta 747 had an engine fall off over Lake Michigan, they knew they lost it so they diverted to DTW instead of YIP.

Please, this happens more than you people even thing to ANY aircraft type at ANY airline. NW had a 744 lose a panel over SE Michigan after takeoff from DTW. I've heard of AA MD-80's losing a part or two. One of AirTran's wet-leased A320's lost an engine cowling in-flight. This DC-10 lost part of a thrust reverser.

btw, KLMA330, NW is replacing the DC-10's, hence all the new A330's. New aircraft take to be delivered, but by the end of 2007, NW will have a fleet of 32 A330's, and the DC-10's will be pretty much gone.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 13507 times:

Quoting GoCOgo (Reply 1):
Good thing the Concorde wasn't following it.

Ha Ha, not to make light of the tragic loss of that aircraft and it's passengers and crew - but I was thinking the same thing - wondering "When are the French gonna Sue Northwest?"

A Cargo 747 (can't remember the carrier) lost an engine on climb out over ANC several years ago. Amazing what a PW JT9D can do to someone's back yard from a few thousand feet . . . amazingly it fell relatively intact.

[Edited 2005-04-12 02:00:30]

User currently offlineBoeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 13479 times:

If I had a dime for every nut, bolt, fuel cap, tool and panel I've picked up on a runway in my life I could retire.

User currently offlineB741 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 716 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 13375 times:

B7E7

And if you lived in Chicago, if they gave you a penny for every part you could retire a millionaire!



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 13313 times:

Maybe thats why NW is probably on purchasing the 787....because of problems like these...obviously they know their DC-10's are falling apart......

I love flying on those old birds, but I preferred the MD-11's.



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User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 13269 times:

NWA must be embarassed by this ... pilots said they didn't notice the missing part until they landed in Hawaii??

I suppose no window passengers sitting to that back side of wing took note of it after take off...



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User currently offlineCoronado From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1166 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 13268 times:
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We have friends enjoying an extra day in Hawaii since the return flight did not leave!! Too bad the parts got dinged when landing on the farm field in Inver Grove Heights. Could have always fedexed them to HNL to be reattached!


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User currently offlineLockheed1011 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 156 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 13223 times:

It is not the first time and it will not be the last! Not only DC-10's, it happened not to long ago in LAS HP A320.  Wink

User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7505 posts, RR: 28
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 13212 times:

Sorry, it fell off the #2 engine, on the tail, thus why no one would've noticed.

User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 13191 times:

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User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3630 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 13008 times:
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I saw the aircraft in question parked at one of the hardstands on the north ramp at HNL. However, I forgot to look at the registration.

I doubt the DC-10s are going anywhere anytime soon. HNL is still one of NW's major DC-10 destinations. In addition to the grounded a/c, there were 4 more DC-10s waiting for their return flight.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2005/Apr/11/br/br08p.html


User currently offlineMikey711MN From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1396 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 12962 times:

Luckily--and I mean luckily--flights today were taking off towards the southeast. Using an approximate distance from the actual drop spot to, say, one of a northwesterly location, that -10 would've definitely hit something or someone unless it managed to land in Lake of the Isles or Lake Calhoun! As if this situation isn't a PR black mark for NW enough, if a 200-lb reverse thruster would've dropped in one of Minneapolis's recreational lakes, there'd be some serious gnashing of teeth.

To see what I mean, check out a Google map.

-Mike



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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7505 posts, RR: 28
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 12903 times:

Oh come on, this is by no reason to ground the DC-10's, as I said it happens to all aircaft, at all airlines....let the investigation reveal truely what happened and to determine if it was anyone's fault or not.

As a black eye, its like everything else, in one ear and out the other......people have very short memories.


User currently offlineTimMSP From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 12844 times:

Here's a link to a pic

http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=78327

I like the FAA spokesperson's quote about it being "an extra mechanism that wasn't being used..."

Always thought reverse thrust was part of any normal takeoff procedure  Yeah sure


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 12807 times:

Quoting TimMSP (Reply 22):
Here's a link to a pic

http://www.kare11.com/news/news_arti...78327

I'm surprised they actually got the right picture, instead of sticking in some stock photo of a CRJ.  Smile

Harry



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User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7383 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 12696 times:

I will probably be flamed for this, but given the number of hours that some of these birds have, maintenance must be becoming an issue.

25 Post contains images Mika : The FAA lists the plane as a 1974 DC-10 with a General Electric engine. Gotta love the media! I thought the DC10 had 3 engines, not one.
26 Post contains images Solnabo : High time the A332 take over DC10 routes asap!! Micke//SE
27 NWA Man : Or any normal landing procedure, considering it is reverse thrust...
28 Lightsaber : I still recall a CO engine dropping off on approach into PBI. They had a truck pick it up so fast that news crews weren't able to get a picture. In f
29 Myt332 : I wasn't aware any Northwest 744 lost an engine after takeoff and continued for it's 10 hour flight. If so my bad. If not, shut it slag. It was a jok
30 Post contains images TransIsland : I read in Der Spiegel, which was quoting the Wall STreet Journal, that NW is indeed ordering dreamliners. However, according to that article, they ar
31 Ilsapproach : It's not an age problem................it's a maintenence problem!!..................Big issue here in the Twin Cities........too much contract MX!!!
32 BG777300ER : I think they were reffering to just that one engine that had the part fall off.[Edited 2005-04-12 15:51:27]
33 Thrust : 26 years after the disaster of the AA DC-10 at ORD, the engine is still capable of separating from the wing....what on earth is it about the DC-10 tha
34 Burnsie28 : Well since it wasnt the engine, I couldnt tell yeah.
35 LMP737 : Thrust: There is nothing wrong with the DC-10. Every once in a while you will have a part fall off an aircraft. While it's not good to have parts fal
36 Lemurs : Fairly disingenuous, there. Show me anything mechanical that runs perfectly after 26 years, and I'll show you a figment of someone's imagination. Aft
37 Planespotting : at first i thought he meant that the airplane made a landing in a field in Inver Grove Heights....i was like "whaaaaaaaat??" i don't think theres a f
38 AndrewUber : The engine did NOT separate on this NW DC-10. If it had, there would be quite a few more news links to cover a disaster of that magnitude. One thing
39 Oerk : Whenever the topic of NW DC-10s arises, it usually takes about 5 minutes for someone to claim "NW has late build models"... so I guess 1974 was a late
40 PSU.DTW.SCE : Arrgghhh!!!!!!!! Seriously, what is wrong with some of you people?????? Do you have the ability to think logically. #1 The fact that it was a DC-10 wa
41 Pilottim747 : I think you're right. It would've been a big PR problem if that piece landing on someones car or on someones house. The City of Minneapolis, which ha
42 Post contains images AndrewUber : I was referring to the NWA mechanic in that news article listed at the top of the forum!
43 Airportugal310 : The way you make this seem is that a WHOLE engine fell off. Doubt that one very much.
44 Azjubilee : yawn yawn yawn yawn..... PSU - you give a valiant effort trying to educate the ignorant. I admire your diligence and fortitude. You have more patience
45 Post contains images Argonaut : Really? If you scare that easily, leave your car at home....
46 MSPMAN : Inver Grove Heights is southeast of the airport not southwest. II grew up in Inver Grove and lived under the flight path into MSP. Plus we would alway
47 Post contains images N243NW : No, thank God it wasn't my baby. I heard that the incident occurred to Ship 1233, if my source isn't mistaken. -N243NW
48 AJO : Didn't a DC-10 lose an engine or part of it in flight some years ago, with a pretty large part landing in a field in Kansas(???) ?
49 Post contains images LTBEWR : Look at the bright side, what if it was a similar part to one of the old DC-9's NW has chugging around There would be food fight of the pro DC-9'rs vs
50 Mikey711MN : No one said otherwise. Conversely, I live in the Kenwood neighborhood of Minneapolis, just north of the afore-mentioned Lake of the Isles, which is n
51 COAMiG29 : I wonder if they are going to ground their DC-10s until they figure it out. I know you are just trying to make a joke out of the current situation in
52 Newark777 : I think part of the number 2 engine from UA 232 landed in some farm field, and was not found for some time, IIRC. Of course, we all know how that end
53 AJO : Thanks, that was the one I was thinking of...
54 ContnlEliteCMH : You shouldn't wonder at all. Parts fall off of airplanes constantly. How do you know? They fall of cars all the time, and most of the owners never kn
55 Sprout5199 : When was this? I remember some parts hitting a few cars and houses but not a whole engine. Dan in Jupiter
56 Post contains links KDTWFlyer : Seems as though a similar incident happened a few years back at AMS... ...lost the left half of the number two engine cowling shortly after takeoff ht
57 AirWillie6475 : Gosh, what was the pilot doing during AC inspection?
58 Post contains images Newark777 : Usually AC inspection isn't done while the aircraft is in flight. Harry
59 CORULEZ05 : Well I am not a big fan of these old things and well this just adds to my dislike for the DC-10. This is a scary situation and I am surprised that the
60 Newark777 : It said in one of the articles that the pilots had no idea the part was missing until they landed. It is not like it happened in the #1 or 3 engines,
61 DarthRandall : Just like Donny Darko. As for the NW DC-10, I seriously hope they get the A330s or 787s to replace them soon. Every MD fan out there will decry the p
62 B741 : FedEx has dozens of this type and no problems. But then they are probably not as heavily utilized or have less utilization rates.
63 PSU.DTW.SCE : I can't believe that I even have to repeat this again..... NW is actively replacing their DC-10-30 fleet with A330's. This has been going on since 200
64 Glydrflyr : During the early 80's, I was on a United 747 from EWR-SFO when a large section of the upper left wing skin tore off and went into a field somewhere in
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