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User currently offlineAmericanPilot From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 36 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2833 times:

I was flying a 172 about 5 miles west of CCR. We (my instructor and I) were doing some Sim engine fires. I was concentrating on the panel to keep up my speed and proper glide slope. I looked out the windscreen to my right and saw a Cessna 206 come rite at me off my right wingtip. I could almost see the whites of his eyes. I dove, and he passed over me with about 20 feet clearance. If I had delayed my dive by 1 second he would have hit me.

The pilot of the 206 never even saw me even though I had my NAV, LND, BCN, and SRB lights on. I even cleared the airspace about 2 minutes before the incident. This is a danger that pilots face every day. I learned to always clear my airspace every 5 minutes when doing maneuvers and clear my turns every time. Every pilot should do the same!

-Thanks
-Fly safe and have fun!
-Chris  airplane 


Fly safe and have fun!
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User currently offlineNbgskygod From United States of America, joined May 2004, 819 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2797 times:

its a common problem durring extreame VFR conditions, that pilots don't pay as close attention as the should to traffic and the such.


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User currently offline777DadandJr From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1516 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2755 times:

Chris,
Sounds like a very scary situation. I probably would have been scraping out my shorts afterwards!
Glad to hear that everyone is ok.

Keep on flying. Big grin

Russ



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2730 times:

Ah, the good ol' HASEL check!

Height
Area
Security
Engine
Look-out

Only works if the other guys are looking too.

I've had a few close calls too. I was doing a circuit once at a controlled airfield, reported downwind and was cleared to land. 15 seconds later, a company Cheyenne flew over top of me no more then 200 feet vertical separation. Next thing, the controller calls me and asks me what I was doing? I'm like, excuse-me? Don't blame me for your mistakes!

Anyways, I got on the ground and talked to the pilot of the Cheyenne, and he agreed that ATC messed up on that one. The other pilot knew I was on the downwind leg because ATC cleared me, but he couldn't see me so he decided to fly a few hundred feet higher then normal. Smart move!   

cheers,
Patrick

[Edited 2005-04-12 20:36:53]


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User currently offlineAmericanPilot From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2690 times:

I have also had cloce calls from ATC screwups! Even talking to NORCAL Approch (the approtch control into San Francisco).


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User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7186 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2377 times:

That is one thing I really dont like about flying a GA plane. I have not flown one yet but plan to soon as I want to start training. But it must be hard to fly and look out all the time. Thats why I really dont like about training in Miami. OPF is the nearest GA airport near me but I rather travel an extra hour to Tamamia to train in less congestive airspace and not have to worry about North Perry, and FLL to my north and MIA to my south.

Training in a large city its not the best thing to do but I really dont have a choice. Man an empty area in the midwest would be the best. Farm fields to make emergency landings and not much traffic.



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User currently offlineAlberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2921 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2368 times:

That's the problem with flying. All it takes is for one persons recklessness to cause a huge tragedy.


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User currently offlineFreedomtofly From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 750 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2308 times:

I've flown out there before

Quoting AmericanPilot (Thread starter):
5 miles west of CCR.

I was flying a piper arrow across the bay to come back to SQL and we were flying just a little too high. A China Airlines 744 flew right over our aircaft. It was actually kinda cool considering it wasn't that close(a couple hundred feet) but I felt so small under the large belly of a 747.

~Aaron



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User currently offlineSprout5199 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1853 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2239 times:

The only close call I have had was when I was doing touch and go's at LNA . I was on short final when a helicopter hovered onto the active runway. then proceeded to fly down the runway, not talking on the radio or anything. had to do a goaround. was about 500 feet behind him and was worried he would climb right into me. other than that I just keep my head on a swivel when flying

Dan in Jupiter


User currently offlineRamerinianAir From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2180 times:

Usually during my clearing turns, I can see the traffic which may be a threat to me.
SR



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User currently offlineAmericanPilot From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1894 times:

Quoting Freedomtofly (Reply 7):
I was flying a piper arrow across the bay to come back to SQL and we were flying just a little too high. A China Airlines 744 flew right over our aircaft. It was actually kinda cool considering it wasn't that close(a couple hundred feet) but I felt so small under the large belly of a 747.

That sounds kool... the only thing i would be worried about would be Wake turbulence from the huge 747. That wake could jumble a 737 pretty good let alone a small aircraft.

Fly safe and have fun!
-Chris  airplane 



Fly safe and have fun!
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