Keta From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 440 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2053 times:
Until today, you couldn't smoke on airplanes, but you could carry on your lighter. This will be prohibited from tomorrow.
According to Reuters, "the Transportation Security Administration, responding to a congressional order, said passengers cannot carry butane, battery powered or other lighters on themselves or in carry-on bags after April 14"
However, you still can carry matches with you, but that may also change: "The Transportation Security Administration is still considering a ban on matches"
And all this, of course, due to the possibility of a terrorist attack: "Proponents said it was necessary to reduce the chance that someone could ignite a bomb or incendiary device on a commercial flight"
Each day we're allowed to carry less things with us, that's for our security, but do you really think that lighters are such dangerous? And will other countries adopt this law too?
Sjg From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 20 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2017 times:
Quoting Keta (Thread starter): Each day we're allowed to carry less things with us,
Last week the regulations in the UK were actually eased, and sharp items like scissors were allowed back on board. The airlines are now also allowed to use proper metal cutlery again instead of plastic ones.
Birdwatching From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3573 posts, RR: 52 Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2009 times:
This is weird: While TSA searched my checked luggage last week and found a swiss army knife, (note: CHECKED luggage) the lady said something like "soon you won't even be allowed to take these into your checked luggage" or so.
Question: WHY?
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SATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 8 Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1911 times:
I was thinking the next item would be ballpoint pens. But hey, maybe you could kill somebody with a lighter faster than with a ballpoint pen. Hmm. Nah, I still say the ball point pen would be faster.
Open Season on Consumer Protections is Just Around the Corner...
Hawk44 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 759 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1898 times:
Quoting Keta (Thread starter): And all this, of course, due to the possibility of a terrorist attack: "Proponents said it was necessary to reduce the chance that someone could ignite a bomb or incendiary device on a commercial flight"
A little silly since most explosives can be detonated with a wrist watch, kind of like what was used on Philippine Airlines 434
Sjg From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 20 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1870 times:
Quoting Hawk44 (Reply 6): A little silly since most explosives can be detonated with a wrist watch, kind of like what was used on Philippine Airlines 434
Which brings us to the sad conclusion - if you really want to blow up a plane, there are lots of ways of doing it .
Maybe everyone should fly naked... Now that's in flight entertainment.
Aviationwiz From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 953 posts, RR: 4 Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1814 times:
Jeesh, they should just ban the matches altogether.
Isitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 26 Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1802 times:
Lets see now, The US Government says we cannot take lighters on the plane with us BUT we can take matches....hmmmmmmm
And these are the same people we trust with our social security savings, right?
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TACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1788 times:
Quoting UAalltheway (Reply 3): Do you know if matches will still be allowed/"permitted" onboard?
Some time ago, at MIA, I was carrying some "matches" in my luggage. I was advised by the security agent [the one who checked your luggage just after the counter] that they are forbidden. They took them away.
TA web site is announcing that the lighters are banned also.
Airbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 6873 posts, RR: 7 Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1758 times:
Another moronic law made by clueless people who unfortunatelly are in charge of our security. Apparently these guys don't know that most explosives that could be used on a plane, are detonated electronically. Just ask PanAm.
Keta From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 440 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1732 times:
Quoting Sjg (Reply 1): Last week the regulations in the UK were actually eased, and sharp items like scissors were allowed back on board. The airlines are now also allowed to use proper metal cutlery again instead of plastic ones
Wow that's good news! A month ago I flew MAD-BIO and they confiscated my scissors!!
Bridogger6 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 710 posts, RR: 11 Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1717 times:
Oh yay! Today should be a fun day at the ticket counter making all you corporate whores (yes that's what I call smokers.. they really are whores to corporations.. needlessly wasting money on something that is not even close to necessary for survival.. sorry, I don't hate smokers.. just the act of smoking!) throw out your lighters! Whew I am so not looking forward to it.. stupid TSA just keep people happy. Sure, we'd like to be safe, but you know, if everyone is protesting what you're doing, it seems like it's time to loosen up a little bit and let the American public take risks again.. hey it's what we want!
So anyway, throw away your lights now or leave them at home before coming to the airport today, I don't need you all causing a scene when you can't have your smokes in the airport terminal anymore! Better yet, just by a lighter beyond security.
NASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3081 posts, RR: 5 Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1714 times:
This is yet another case of our personal liberties being taken away by the Thousands Standing Around. When are we going to rise up and Ban the TSA?
I am not a smoker, but the idea of each liberty being taken away is getting me more and more angry. I did carry a lighter I got from Lacuna Coil last summer up in Michigan when I flew back to Florida, it was a souvenier one too and I would have been pissed if some ratboy TSA agent confiscated it. I am beginning to not buy into this terrorism stuff anymore. When Richard Reid tried to light his shoes in 2001, why didn't they do it back then? It would have made more sense instead of waiting until Mid 2005 to do it. This was never an issue before. Have any planes caught fire due to a checked lighter going off? I don't seem to remember any.
I do remember 9-11 before anyone tries to remind me of it, but it has gotten to the point where 9-11 is the excuse for every liberty being banned.
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