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Former UA Mainline At MFR And EUG  
User currently offlineUnitedFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 230 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2929 times:

Does anybody know UA's former routes out of MFR and EUG? Before the recent conversion to UAX at both airports, it seems that UA served both SFO and LAX from both stations, and DEN from EUG. Thank you!

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User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2871 times:

Depends on how far you want to go back in time...Medford and Eugene are cities from the ORIGINAL Pacific Air Transport system....1926 is when they began flying from Los Angeles to Seattle on Air Mail Route 8, with MANY intermediate stops along the way.
P.A.T. Merged With BOEING AIR TRANSPORT to form United Aircraft and Transport Company, finally changing to United Air Lines in 1934.

Flights have with few exceptions, been on the North-South route along the Pacific Coast; Medford and Eugene were stops along the important corridor.

In the late 70's, MFR to SFO 3X a day. 1X to Salem on to Portland.
Eugene had 1X to PDX, and 3X to SFO. All B737-200, All the time.

In the 80's route rationalization period, where service ended at smaller stations like Muskegon, Elko, Pendleton, and CharlestonWV, the PDX and SLM flights were dropped altogether, with SLM closing soon after.

At various points in the decade, both Eugene and Medford had a nonstop to Denver. When there wasn't a nonstop MFR-DEN, there at least was a MFR-EUG-DEN. Both cities maintained between 3X and 5X to SFO. It fluctuated a lot in the early 80's as did much of the economy in the NW, as reflected by the service levels provided by United.

Then it went Shuttle to SFO, and then nothing....I guess, I'm not sure, haven't been paying attention lately.



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User currently offlineKWBL From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2788 times:

At one time during the summer, EUG had 3x daily to DEN and 6X daily to SFO! They also in the early 80's did a EUG-SLC-ORD routing. MFR has primarily been to SFO though when UA started building their LAX hub, they had 2 daily NS flights MFR-LAX. As a kid, I flew SLE-MFR-SFO-LAX.

User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1878 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2734 times:

yes its sad!!! I remember watching the last 735 depart for SFO...most of our schedule out of EUG looked like this
4PDX (EM2)
4/5 SEA (EM2)
5 SFO (733/735/A320)
2 DEN (737/727...sometimes 146)

Yeah it sucks, currently the RJs oversell like crazy out of here!


User currently offlineUnitedFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2671 times:

Quoting KWBL (Reply 2):
As a kid, I flew SLE-MFR-SFO-LAX.

Wow, I never knew UA flew to SLE. I didn't think the runway or facilities could support a 737 caliber aircraft...


User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2591 times:

Quoting KWBL (Reply 2):
They also in the early 80's did a EUG-SLC-ORD routing.

Who is "They"?

Quoting UnitedFlyer (Reply 4):
I didn't think the runway or facilities could support a 737 caliber aircraft...

At 5800', McNary has a short deck.
But considering that to get to PDX and MFR, 50 and 175 miles distant respectively; not much fuel was required, resulting in a much lighter aircraft. Additionally, for the most part, outside of the heavy travel periods, loads on those routes were better suited to smaller capacity aircraft. (Which UA did not have at the time, but was bound by law to serve SLE along with many similiar markets.)



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User currently offlineKWBL From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2551 times:

Sorry, it was UA that flew the EUG-SLC route. Salem's runway is not much shorter than SNA. Over the years, various charters have been in and out of Salem. I've seen 727, 737, DC9 & MD-80.

User currently offlineUnitedFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2463 times:

I understand that SLE may be getting Horizon Air back with service to SEA.

Also of interest is the planned complete replacement of the MFR terminal and relocation of the tower by 2009. With record passenger flow through MFR, this expansion is happening just in time! Hopefully, UA mainline will eventually to return to MFR..


User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2370 times:

Quoting UnitedFlyer (Reply 7):
Hopefully, UA mainline will eventually to return to MFR..

While that would be great.....given the current philosophy and direction of United, and other majors, that might not be in the immediate future.
But, NEVER say NEVER.

I wonder if Southern Oregon could support an LCC?



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User currently offlineUnitedFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2305 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 8):
I wonder if Southern Oregon could support an LCC?

With United Express, Delta Connection, America West Express, and Horizon serving about 500,000 passengers annually, I'm not certain an LCC would find MFR an attractive market but perhaps TED may someday supplement the UAX flights...but TED specializes in leisure markets which Southern Oregon is not....


User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2256 times:

Quoting UnitedFlyer (Reply 9):
TED specializes in leisure markets which Southern Oregon is not....

Not in the traditional sense...
But Southern Oregon does have it's fair share of recreational opportunities, but at the moment, it's access is primarily by way of automobile.

Crater Lake National Park
Shakespeare Festival in Ashland
Rogue River Recreation/Whitewater Rafting/Hellgate JetBoats
Oregon Coast
Seven Feathers Resort and Casino
Fall King/Chinook Salmon Fishing
Snow Skiing Mt Ashland
etc
etc
etc



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User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2213 times:

Wow, this brings back some very fond memories!

My first time traveling as a UM I flew DTW-SFO on a UA DC-10, then SFO EUG on a 737-200. This must have been around '74.


User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2900 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2207 times:
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I flew on a lot of UA metal out of EUG, especially when I was a kid, almost always to DEN. 727s and 737-200s mostly... I never quite understood why UA mainline left. Loads seem to be high enough for at least two 737s/A319s a day to DEN, and if you've ever tried to fly through EUG, you've seen the exorbitant fares.

Eugene has seen its fair share of airlines come and go:
UA Mainline
DL/SkyWest (came, left, and is back again)
PSA (and then USAir briefly)
Frontier (version 1)
Morris (but never Southwest)
Hughes Airwest (and later Republic briefly, but never Northwest)
Cascade Airways


I don't think that DL Mainline ever served EUG, and I'm also fairly certain that AA Mainline or Eagle hasn't ever served Eugene. I'm sure I'm missing some here... there was a little airline that flew briefly to Vegas, I think it was Tristar or something? Anyone have any others?


User currently offlineUnitedFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2168 times:

Seems like Air Oregon served both EUG and MFR in the 1970's-1980's. Not sure on the extent of their service but they at least flew the Fokker F-27...

http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/jt.htm


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