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Crew Compliments On Different Airlines  
User currently offlineVHXLR8 From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 500 posts, RR: 3
Posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3603 times:

Hey guys, just a question for all you flight attendants out there; or really for anyone that has the info.
I'm just interested to find out what the different crew compliments are for your airlines; just curious as to whether the number of flight attendants onbaord various aircraft is generally the same, or if there is much change.
At Qantas it's as follows

747 438 - 16FAs
747 338 - 16FAs (I think)
A330 300 - 10FAs
A330 200 - 10FAs
767 336 - 8FAs
767 338 - 7FAs
737 800 - 5FAs
737 400 - 4FAs (unless operating a flight in or out of CBR, then it's 5)
737 300 - 4FAs (but only 1 left if operation now)

Also, on the 767s and the 737s, there is an extra FA when operating a dinner service between MEL-SYD-MEL or MEL-ADL-MEL

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User currently offlineEKcrew From United Arab Emirates, joined Feb 2005, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3509 times:

Emirates:

A310-300 (2class) - 8 FA's
A330-200 (2class) - 10 FA's
A330-200 (3class) - 13 FA's
A340-300 (3class) - 13 FA's
A340-500 (3class) - 14 FA's
B777-200 (2class) - 12 FA's
B777-200 (3class) - 13 FA's
B777-300 (2class) - 14 FA's
B777-300 (3class) - 16 FA's


User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3469 times:

Air NZ

747-400: 14
747-400 (Trans-Tasman): 13
777-200: 10
767-300: 8
A320: 4
A320 domestic: 3
737-300: 3



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User currently offlineSWAFA30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3437 times:

Southwest Airlines

737-300: 3
737-500: 3
737-700: 3


User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4876 posts, RR: 43
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3386 times:

Air Canada A320 series:

A321: 5
A320: 4 (sometimes 5)
A319: 3 (sometimes 4)

A320 or A319 in Jetz configuration: 5 (sometimes 6).



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User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6751 posts, RR: 76
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3388 times:

Bouraq: 732 = 3F/As (MD82 formerly 4)
GA all 737 = 5 F/As
Mandala 732 = 4 F/As
Merpati
732 = 5 F/A
733 = 5 F/A
F100 = 5 F/A
Pelita F100 = 5 F/A
Trigana ATR42 = 2 F/A



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User currently onlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7401 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3365 times:

Air France :

B735 = 3
A318 = 3
A319/A320 = 4
A321 = 5

A332 = 10
A343 = 11
A343 (Caribbean/Indian Ocean) = 8
B772ER = 14
B773ER = 14
B742 Caribean/Indian Ocean = 11
B743 = 12
B744 = 15
B744 YUL & JFK = 16
B744 (Caribbean/Indian Ocean) = 12


User currently offlineVHXLR8 From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 500 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3351 times:

Hey thanks for the replies guys!!
Just wondering, in regards to having 3 FAs on certain aircraft that have 4 doors (AC, NZ, WN), is there no regulation in these countries requiring 1 FA per door?? ANd in this case, which FAs man which doors?


User currently offlineLMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3341 times:

Air Malta
A320 - 4 (168 all economy) 5 (2 class with load > 113)
A319 - 3 (141 all economy) 4 (2 class with load > 95)
B733 - 3 (144 all economy) 4 (2 class with load > 96)


User currently offlineMiami1 From Australia, joined Feb 2001, 706 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3326 times:

VHXLR8 -
The 146 has four primary doors - just like a 737. Yet the 146 can operate here in OZ with just two FAs if only 72 pax or less.


User currently offlineNeder99 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2000, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3325 times:

Well, concerning the doors, I think it's really 1 FA per set of doors. So the required absolute minimum (speaking in emergency terms, in order to operate the exit) on for example an A320 would be 2, as there are 2 sets of doors (of course, time permitting, the FA will have designated ABPs, Able Bodied Pax, to help in the evacuation).
The overwings are classified as self-help exits, so are not operated by crew.


User currently onlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7401 posts, RR: 57
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3318 times:

Quoting VHXLR8 (Reply 7):
Just wondering, in regards to having 3 FAs on certain aircraft that have 4 doors (AC, NZ, WN), is there no regulation in these countries requiring 1 FA per door??

 no 

1 F/A per pair of doors and/or 1 F/A for 50 PAX.

Overwing exits are "Exits", not doors.

example :
an A321 with 148 seats would require 3 F/A BUT as the A321 is equipped with 4 pairs of main doors, the minimum required will be 4 F/A, even if there is only 148 seats.

an A321 with 201 seats will require a minimum crew of 5 F/A despite it has only 4 pairs of main doors.


User currently offlineVHXLR8 From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 500 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3284 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 11):
1 F/A per pair of doors and/or 1 F/A for 50 PAX.

Ok, so quite different to here in Australia. Here it's 1 FA per door and/or 1 FA per 36 pax.

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 11):
the A321 is equipped with 4 pairs of main doors

I believe that the A321 is actually fitted with 2 pairs of main doors, with the others being Type 2 doors (secondary exits).

That's always totally confused me dude, are BAe 146 doors considered doors or exits?? Either way, it's strange, because for everything else (737, 767 etc), there's always 1 FA per door

Quoting Miami1 (Reply 9):
Yet the 146 can operate here in OZ with just two FAs if only 72 pax or less.


User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3258 times:

I don't know the exact numbers for DL but I can tell you that DL imposes the following ratios on its long haul (777 and 767ER) product

- no more than 1 relatively attractive FA per flight (this one is typically the hardest working of the group as well because she is the junior member);
- at least 70% have to be outright ugly;
- at least 85% have to have a bad attitude;
- 100% of the BizE FA's have to be over 65;
- 90% of the BizE FA's have to look annoyed if you ask them for anything.


User currently onlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7401 posts, RR: 57
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3244 times:

Quoting VHXLR8 (Reply 12):
I believe that the A321 is actually fitted with 2 pairs of main doors, with the others being Type 2 doors (secondary exits).

Here, the A321 is considered to be equipped with 4 pairs of main doors.
Officially, doors 2 & 3 are not type 1 doors but they are not also type 2 doors... and definately not "exits"


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User currently offlineVHXLR8 From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 500 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3227 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 14):
Officially, doors 2 & 3 are not type 1 doors but they are not also type 2 doors... and definately not "exits"

Perhaps things are different between our two countries dude, but from as Australian point of view, doors 2&3 on the A321 (as per the photos you posted) are most definfately Type 2. Yes they are still doors (not exits), but they are that bit smaller, and not a primary door in a ditch.
But as I said, things are probably very different from country to country.


User currently offlineSATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3231 times:

Quoting Pope (Reply 13):

- at least 70% have to be outright ugly;
- at least 85% have to have a bad attitude;
- 100% of the BizE FA's have to be over 65;
- 90% of the BizE FA's have to look annoyed if you ask them for anything.

The bad attitude part is the only legitimate complaint. The rest is beyond your or anybody else's control. I suggest you consider flying NetJets and bringing a few hooters girls as FA's. Win-win IMO.

Oh, and feel free to explain your radical view of the 'nuclear option'.  Yeah sure



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User currently onlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7401 posts, RR: 57
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3178 times:

Quoting VHXLR8 (Reply 15):
Perhaps things are different between our two countries dude, but from as Australian point of view, doors 2&3 on the A321 (as per the photos you posted) are most definfately Type 2. Yes they are still doors (not exits), but they are that bit smaller, and not a primary door in a ditch.
But as I said, things are probably very different from country to country.

Yep ! things are probably different from country to country...

Concerning the A321's doors, actually, the door 2 Left is basically the same size than doors 1 & 4 :

Doors 1R/1L & 4R/4L = 1,83m x 0,81m
Doors 2L = 1,85m x 0,76m
Doors 2R/3R/3L = 1,52 x 0,76m


User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4876 posts, RR: 43
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3155 times:

In Canada, the minimum cabin crew compliment for the A321 is 5. You may start to board passengers with only 4 aboard, if the pilots are already aboard. But for departure 5 F/As are needed.

FYI, minimum for the A320/A319 is 3.



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User currently offlineAsianguy767 From Singapore, joined Oct 2003, 263 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3088 times:

@ SQ

B744 - 17 (3 in P, 3 UD, 3 MD & 8 in Y)
B773 - 15 (3 in P, 5 in J, 7 in Y)
B773 - 16 (4 in P, 5 in J, 7 in Y on CGK flights with PCL load > 13)
B772 - 14 (3 in P, 4 in J, 7 in Y)
B772A- 11 (3 in J, 8 in Y)
B772A- 12 (4 in P, 8 in Y on KUL flights only)
B772ER -11 (4 in J, 7 in Y)
A345 - 14 (4 in Fwd, 5 in Mid, 5 in Aft)

these are crew compliments based on service requirements.


User currently offlineFA4AM From Mexico, joined Nov 2004, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3055 times:

Aeromexico's

F/As per flighT

  • MD87 (2 class) 4 / (min.) 3
  • MD82/83/88 (2 class) 4 / (min) 3
  • B737-700 (2 class) 4 / (min) 3
  • B757-200 (2 class domestic) 6 / (min) 5
  • B757-200 (2 class intl.) 7 / (min) 5
  • B767-200/300 (2 class) 8 / (min) 5
  • B777-200 (2 class) COMING SOON  Smile


min = MINIMUM: Less than that = No go!


User currently offlineEdina From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 740 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3041 times:

BA short haul......

A319 - 4-6
A320 - 4-6
A321 - 5-7
B757 - 5-7
B767 - 8-11

Short haul crewing is dependent on C class booking & flight duration e.g. a half full A319 to CDG with 45 C class will have 6 crew, wheras a full A320 to HEL, with only 15 in C will only have 4 crew.

Long haul......

B767 - 8-9
B777 - 11-14
B744 - 14-16

Above dependent only on aircraft configuration (whether it is a 2, 3 or 4 class aircraft).



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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7401 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3030 times:
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DC9-30=2
DC9-40/50=3
A319/320=3
B757-251=4
B757-351=5
DC10=6
A330=6
B747-251 Standard=9
B747-251 Beach/Charter=10
B747-451=9



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User currently offlineIcarus75 From France, joined Oct 2003, 796 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3007 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 6):
A343 = 11
A343 (Caribbean/Indian Ocean) = 8



Quoting FlySSC (Reply 6):
B744 = 15
B744 YUL & JFK = 16
B744 (Caribbean/Indian Ocean) = 12

Why these differences for the same plane?



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User currently offlineKevi747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1058 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2972 times:

American Airlines:

S80-----------------3
737-----------------3 Dom/4 Intl/5 added depending on loads/service
757-----------------4 Min./5&6 depending on loads/type of service
767-200-------------6 Min./7-9 depending on loads/type of service
767-200(Transcon)--8Min/9 depending on loads/service
767-300-------------6 min/7-9 depending on loads/service
A300----------------7min/8 depending on loads/service
777-----------------8min/9-11 depending on loads/service



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25 RIOJANEIRO : America West : 737-300 (134 seats (8/126)) :3 A319 (124 seats (12/112)) : 3 A320 (150 seats (12/138)) : 3 757 (190 seats (14/176)) : 4 All flights, al
26 Ha763 : FAA minimums are based on the amount of seats, 1 FA per 50 seats. That being said, the crew compliments for AQ are: 737-200, 3 737-700, 3 (used to be
27 FlySSC : B744 & A343 on Caribbean/indian Ocean = Different inflight service B744 YUL & JFK = "short" long-haul flights on an a/c "difficult" to work for F/A.
28 JBLUA320 : At jetBlue: A320: 156Y --> 4 E190: 100Y --> 2 JBLU
29 Icaro : At IBERIA: PLANE F/C J/C Y/C F/A B747/400- * 30 400 11 or 9 to Canaries 3 J/C * 7 Y/C A340/600 10 42 290 12 2 F/C * 4 J/C * 5 Y/C A340/600 * 52 300 11
30 Aloha73G : On my March 16 & March 28 AQ 73G flights there were still 4 FAs...As far as I know, the change to three has not happened yet. Aloha!
31 Post contains images AirplaneBoy : Frontier Airlines- Airbus A318: 3 FA's Airbus A319: 3 FA's Cheers and fly safe!
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