Tockeyhockey From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 932 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2909 times:
Other than WN...
Are these airlines able to make money off of these flights? Do they fill up? Is this the wave of the future -- smaller jets going relatively long distances? Do airlines get complaints from being stuck on such a small jet for so long?
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2857 times:
AS, CO, FL, WN, WS in Canada
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ScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6365 posts, RR: 34 Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2829 times:
Most US airlines operate 737-700-sized narrowbodies transcon; UA, NW, and US operate the A319 from their East Coast hubs to the West Coast while HP operates the A319 from LAS and PHX to the East Coast. The A320, which is only a few rows longer, is used by these same airlines along with jetBlue on transcons as well. AA and DL operate the 737-800 on transcon flights and it is comparable in size to the A320.
MIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1335 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2765 times:
AS flies the 73NG, 738 & 739 on TransCons, some of the routes are EWR, MCO & MIA.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2753 times:
All 737-600 to -900 are 737NGs. The 737-700's code is 73G
Quoting ScottB (Reply 3): Most US airlines operate 737-700-sized narrowbodies transcon; UA, NW, and US operate the A319 from their East Coast hubs to the West Coast while HP operates the A319 from LAS and PHX to the East Coast. The A320, which is only a few rows longer, is used by these same airlines along with jetBlue on transcons as well. AA and DL operate the 737-800 on transcon flights and it is comparable in size to the A320.
The question was asked about the 73G specifically, not the A32S or other 737s. Still, the A320 is about 30 seats larger than the A319 and the 738 is about 35-40 seats larger than the 73G, which is more than a few rows.
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GalvanAir777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 39 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2652 times:
AA flies the 738 from ORD to LAX i dont know if you'd consider it TransCon though.
2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2629 times:
If you consider transcon flights in the Southamerican continent too, CM flies PTY <> GRU Nautical Miles : 2744.37 Statute Miles : 3158.84 Kilometers : 5082.57 and PTY <> EZE Nautical Miles : 2887.49 Statute Miles : 3323.58 Kilometers : 5347.63 on B737-700 or 800.
Now-and-then the westbound flights happen to make a technicalstop @ CLO.
I belive CM has the record for the longest flights on B737 with full pax.
TedEx From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 149 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2603 times:
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2568 times:
Quoting GalvanAir777 (Reply 7): AA flies the 738 from ORD to LAX i dont know if you'd consider it TransCon though.
It is not, it is midcon. They do fly BOS-LAX, which is most definately transcon.
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Aloha73G From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2304 posts, RR: 5 Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2498 times:
Just as far, AND technologically more impressive are Aloha's and Air Pacific's trans-pacific flights between HNL and the US/Canada.
Aloha flies HNL-OAK/SNA/SAN, OGG-OAK/SMF/SNA/SAN, KOA-OAK/SNA
Air Pacific flies HNL-YVR and HNL-NAN
Aloha!
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KyleLosAngeles From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 214 posts, RR: 9 Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2479 times:
Quoting GalvanAir777 (Reply 7): AA flies the 738 from ORD to LAX i dont know if you'd consider it TransCon though.
AA is now flying the 738 from LAX to IAD. They used to run 762's on this segment 3 times daily. Now it's all narrow body.
ScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6365 posts, RR: 34 Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2431 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 6): The question was asked about the 73G specifically, not the A32S or other 737s
True, but the poster also alluded to the 73G being "such a small jet," and the A319 is very similar in size to the 73G. And the A320 and 738 certainly fit into his question about "smaller jets going relatively long distances." To me, a "few" is some number above two and less than, say, seven (since I'd call seven "several").
GalvanAir777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 39 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2245 times:
Quoting KyleLosAngeles (Reply 12): AA is now flying the 738 from LAX to IAD. They used to run 762's on this segment 3 times daily. Now it's all narrow body
They use a 767-300 LAX to ORD flight 1945 I believe. I only know this because i flew it in Feb
Tockeyhockey From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 932 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2090 times:
so aparently, a lot of carriers are flying small jets transcon and medium-to-long-haul.
why is this? it it because an airline is happier with a sold out 73G with ten passengers who had to be bumped to the next flight than a 757 with 20-30 seats open?
or is it because the smaller jets have better seat mile costs?
and, on a related note, why has there been such a dip in 747 traffic in the last 10-15 years? from all the reports that i have read, more people are flying today than ever before, even taking into account the post 9-11 drop-off.
PHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7253 posts, RR: 25 Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2040 times:
Quoting Tockeyhockey (Reply 19): so aparently, a lot of carriers are flying small jets transcon and medium-to-long-haul.
why is this? it it because an airline is happier with a sold out 73G with ten passengers who had to be bumped to the next flight than a 757 with 20-30 seats open?
One underlying reason could be is that several of the carriers that fly the 73G (AS, FL, WN, & WS) don't have any 757s in their fleet to begin with. To quote the old 7-Up slogan, Never had them, never will.
Quoting Tockeyhockey (Reply 19): why has there been such a dip in 747 traffic in the last 10-15 years?
Increased frequency of routes eliminated the need for such a large aircraft combined with additional comparatively fuel efficient aircraft (newer 757s, 767s, 777s & the 737NG among Boeings) coming on line. Keep in mind that even back in the '70s and even early '80s; several carriers (mainly AA, DL & EA) initially flew the 747 but withdrew them from service because it was too much aircraft for them.
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Tockeyhockey From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 932 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2013 times:
Quoting Andz (Reply 21): What defines transcon? SAA fly 738s JNB-MRU...which continent does Mauritius fall under?
sorry Andz -- we're having a bit of a US-centric talk here. no offense, but since i don't know where MRU is, i can't say whether it's trans-con or not.
a better title for this thread might have been, are more and more airlines flying small jets long distances? or is it just a figment of my imagination?
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AQ discontinued PPG, because of not enough demand.
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