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Longest A330-300 Route.  
User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2391 posts, RR: 9
Posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 10649 times:
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Hi there.

Since NW doesn't operate its A333 from U.S West Coast to Asia/Europe I was wondering which is the longest A333 route in the world.

My bet is going to the ICN-PRG-ICN flown by KE's A330-323X.

Any longest ?  Wink


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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5331 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 10624 times:

CX's 333's go to MEL and SYD which are fairly long for the 300 series, over 9 hours. QF fly them SYD-PVG and SYD/MEL-HKG aswell.

User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2391 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 10614 times:
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Figures:

ICN - PRG = 5131 mi
HKG - MEL = 4590 mi
SYD - PVG = 4870 mi

According to Great Circle Mapper.



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User currently offlineBritPilot777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 10562 times:

BMI does a MAN - LAS flight of 5087 miles


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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6914 posts, RR: 63
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10537 times:

I've seen a Malaysian 333 at Istanbul. That's a fair distance.

User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10529 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 4):
I've seen a Malaysian 333 at Istanbul. That's a fair distance

KUL-IST is 5206 mi which is further then ICN-PRG


User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5331 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10511 times:

Quoting BritPilot777 (Reply 3):
BMI does a MAN - LAS flight of 5087 miles

Thats a 332 which have a fair bit more range than the 333, not exactly sure on the figures.

Is/was the MH service to Istanbul non stop from KUL?


User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10511 times:

Quoting BritPilot777 (Reply 3):
BMI does a MAN - LAS flight of 5087 miles

That's on a -200 though. Longer range.



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6914 posts, RR: 63
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10499 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 5):
KUL-IST is 5206 mi which is further then ICN-PRG

Thanks, I don't have access to these numbers right now. My only 333 flight was on Sabena from LFW to BRU via ABJ (SN514) though I doubt if that's unusually long.


User currently offlineHOONS90 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 3015 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10367 times:
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Isn't the scheduled equipment for KUL-IST an A330-200?


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User currently offlineBeno From Australia, joined Aug 2002, 428 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10324 times:

QF also fly the A333s on the PER-NRT route which is 4919mi

User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2391 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10323 times:
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AFAIK, MH flies the 332 on the KUL-IST leg.

Maybe Turkish spotters can help ?

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User currently offlineMatt From Canada, joined May 1999, 694 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 10158 times:

This is not the longest but among the longest.

Air Canada uses its A330-300 on the YVR-LHR route, which is 4723 mi.



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User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4784 posts, RR: 43
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 10104 times:

MH flies to IST via DXB twice a week with seasonal increase to B 744s which happened last winter.

User currently offlineN808NW From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 10089 times:

NW will be starting the A333 on SEA-AMS in a few months.

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User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2391 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 10043 times:
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Quoting N808NW (Reply 14):
NW will be starting the A333 on SEA-AMS in a few months.

I always heard NW would operate the A330-200 on this sector.

FB.



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User currently offlineKEno From Malaysia, joined Feb 2004, 1842 posts, RR: 27
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 9957 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 13):
MH flies to IST via DXB twice a week

MH's 2x weekly KUL-IST services are now nonstop using A330-200. The only present MH destination that stops in DXB is BEY.


User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 9765 times:

So is the longest route ICN-PRG??? That´s good. At last, PRG is special!!! Big grin receiving the longest A333 route!!!
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Adam



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User currently offlineAerlingusEI521 From France, joined Mar 2005, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 9305 times:

then as the 333 has a fairly short range ( compared to its rivals, ie 762 - 763) can we that it isn't "such a good" aircraft? I am not opening an A vs B debate, since I am an (french) airbus fan and would normally favor Airbus planes.

BUT: I think the 333 was a commercial failure compared to the 332. Btw is the 333 still produced now? Have there been some upgrades ( A 330-313X)?

moreover, I think EI was an early 333 adopter and then had to buy two 332 to serve LAX... Would this mean that an DUB-LAX route is out of range for a 333?

thanks for the answers!


User currently offlineLoadsheet From Saudi Arabia, joined Jul 2004, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 9252 times:

KE also operates ICN-ZRH with their A330-300 - so i think this is one of the longest routes and longer as the ICN-PRG sector.

User currently offlineGerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 30
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 9141 times:

KE flies with A330-200 to ZRH. This route is 4733 nm long, compared to 4459 nm for ICN-PRG and 4524 nm for KUL-IST.

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User currently onlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26488 posts, RR: 75
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 9039 times:

Quoting Flying Belgian (Reply 15):
I always heard NW would operate the A330-200 on this sector.

I think you are right. That way they can rotate the spare from SEA-NRT and keep it off the ground



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User currently offlineNLINK From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days ago) and read 8769 times:

The 330-300 is in the sked but that could change for the SEA-AMS leg, but it changes to a 330-200 in the winter last time I looked, but that could have changed by now.

User currently offlineYUL332LX From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 820 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days ago) and read 8746 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 21):
Quoting Flying Belgian (Reply 15):
I always heard NW would operate the A330-200 on this sector.

I think you are right. That way they can rotate the spare from SEA-NRT and keep it off the ground

I heard that too but NW 's RES clearly shows an 333 on SEA-AMS.



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User currently offlineN751PR From Japan, joined May 2002, 1249 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days ago) and read 8703 times:

Courtesy of my friend lyrad89 of the PFSG forum.

Rarely PR's A333s are deployed on the MNL-HNL route. A total of 5302 miles.


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25 N1120A : Apparently they are changing that this Winter. I know EI had to order the specifically for DUB-LAX because of restriction worries with the A333. Stil
26 Xwizard : Not according to the data provided by Airliners.net "Aircraft Data and History" Section A330-300 = 4,500NM to 4,640NM depending on engines used B767-
27 SWISSER : How and what does SK with there Rolls royce A333's? They are quite new, so maybe they are more capable since SK bought them to replace 767's... Anyway
28 N1120A : And using the A.net Aircraft Data section was your first mistake, as it is almost always completely and totally wrong. BTW, the 763ER (which is the o
29 Matt : Air Canada used the A330-300 on its YVR-NRT route for a short while in 2004. Total miles: 4674 mi. Have any other airlines used the 333 on transpacifi
30 Jetjack74 : It's listed in PARS as an A330-300. It begins 6/1.
31 VHXLR8 : I've also heard talk of Qantas replacing the 747 300s with A330s on the Sydney-Mumbai route. That would indeed be a long flight for the A330 300. Not
32 Gigneil : I am fairly sure that the majority of CX's 333s are the increased MTOW variants. N
33 PM : I should have made it clear that the 333 I saw at Istanbul was in December 1995, long before Malaysian had any 332s. For all I know, they do now fly
34 Shamrock330 : aer lingus use their a330-200's on the dublin -lax route....5181 nm
35 VHXLR8 : Qantas did the exact same; they ordered the 300s AFTER their initial orders for 200s. I think one factor adding to the 'delayed success' of the A330
36 AerlingusEI521 : PM, thanks for this precisions. indeed, yes I think I made a "premature statement". Didn't know the 333 was still selling well ( maybe I misjudged the
37 PM : Mon plaisir! Yep. The 333 are 332 are designed to do different jobs and AF's need was for longer routes than the 333 can manage. But the 333 wasn't d
38 Jupiter2 : VHXLR8, QF ordered the 333 at the same time as the 332. Originally the order was for 7 332 and 6 333, this was later changed to 4 332 and 9 333, after
39 PM : You are quite right, of course, and that is how many airlines have used it - Cathay, for example, to replace TriStars and Northwest to replace DC-10s
40 Michi : Hi there, it is possible to order 333 without a center tank. That explains some of the range issues. The aircraft is lighter without the center tank a
41 Post contains images VHXLR8 : Sorry dude, the info I was given must have been incorrect regarding QF's A330 orders. Didn't mean to compare the two. What I'm meaning to say, is tha
42 Jupiter2 : VHXLR8, I was generalising about the comparing of the 330 and the 763, just about everyone does it........ Lord knows why. Lets face it, there hasn't
43 Flying Belgian : So guys I assume (and to summarize...) the longest route are: ICN-PRG w/ KE SEA-AMS w/ NW both flow by A330-323X versions (with extra center tank). I'
44 VHXLR8 : Jupiter, yes I'm a MEL based F/A for Qantas. No, not really a spotter as such; but speaking of 09/27, have been enjoying a few interesting takeoffs an
45 Trex8 : AF is taking A333s this year on top of the A332s and 772ERs they have. CI has 14 A333 on order (with 2 options) and will lease 2 more from ILFC. IIRC
46 Post contains images Joost : I don't think one should call the 333 "not such a good" aircraft, as it was clearly designed for it's purpose as a high capacity airliner with an A-m
47 Matt : I would add that the plane is also good for slightly longer flights. Don't forget that AC uses it on the YYC-LHR, YYC-FRA and YVR-LHR flights.
48 Trex8 : Checked Airbus website Guess I was wrong about AF A333s, but JP Fleets had it in the last edition. As of end of March, Airbus had 286 orders for A332
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