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AA To Go Year-round On MIA-MVD  
User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32780 posts, RR: 72
Posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4325 times:

Good news for Uruguay...

American Airlines, when they resume non-stop Miami-Montevideo service this December, will operate the service year-round. AA launched MIA-MVD this past December as a seasonal service to extremely healthy loads and cargo traffic. Operated by a 767-300ER three days a week, American Airlines will make the service permanent effective 17 December 2005. The other four days, AA will continue to offer MIA-EZE-MVD service.

Also, non-stop Miami-Asuncion service, three days a week (TuThSa) looks like it is moving ahead.


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User currently offlineYu138086 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4261 times:

I have observed the AA flight from EZE to MVD many times and must say that it's usually just 20% full (on a GOOD day). I'm sure the reasons they fly to MVD frm EZE are political as I doubt this R/T route is profitable.

At $50 R/T + tax how can it be?


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32780 posts, RR: 72
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4254 times:

Quoting Yu138086 (Reply 1):
I have observed the AA flight from EZE to MVD many times and must say that it's usually just 20% full (on a GOOD day). I'm sure the reasons they fly to MVD frm EZE are political as I doubt this R/T route is profitable.

It is definitley not political.

The non-stop averaged about 75% loads during it's operation.

Montevideo is one of the most profitable Latin American destinations in American's network thanks to:

1) Excellent yields.
2) Excellent cargo yields.
3) Limited compietition.



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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4253 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
Also, non-stop Miami-Asuncion service, three days a week (TuThSa) looks like it is moving ahead.

Would this be IN ADDITION to AA's current MIA-GRU-ASU B737er? Or it means that AA will cut service GRU-ASU to 4 x week? (JJ and RG would say thank you as AA has 5th freedom rights GRU-ASU).

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
Montevideo is one of the most profitable Latin American destinations

Of course, in relative terms, considering 3 weekly services only. Anyhow, AA results in MVD dont surprise me: IB has equaly reported healhty returns on its newly established MAD-MVD nonstop 3 x week, which will be upgraded to 4 x week later in the year.

Rgs,


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32780 posts, RR: 72
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4241 times:

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 3):

Would this be IN ADDITION to AA's current MIA-GRU-ASU B737er? Or it means that AA will cut service GRU-ASU to 4 x week? (JJ and RG would say thank you as AA has 5th freedom rights GRU-ASU).

It would operate just like MVD. ASU would be served via GRU on days when there is no non-stop.



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User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4224 times:

MAH4546,

Any news regarding MIA-VLN-MIA or SJU-PMV-SJU?


User currently offlinePU752 From Uruguay, joined Mar 2005, 584 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4140 times:

Hey guys,

I heared about this year-round service couple of days ago.
AA do not fly year-round this year because the main runway is under a mayor upgrade and AA couldnt load the plane at 100%, and cargo restrictions were quite big, I also heared that there was a possibility to AA to start MVD-MIA again this June when the main runway get complete. Also IB will restart on June the MVD-MAD non stop service which currently stops at GIG for techstop and will be upgraded to 5x later this year, I flown MVD-MAD-MVD on february and it was a 100% full, not even 1 free seat on either both ways.


User currently offlineA300AA From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 394 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4102 times:

Quoting Yu138086 (Reply 1):
have observed the AA flight from EZE to MVD many times and must say that it's usually just 20% full (on a GOOD day). I'm sure the reasons they fly to MVD frm EZE are political as I doubt this R/T route is profitable

not political, it gives EZE more capacity.


User currently offlineMGASJO From Nicaragua, joined Feb 2005, 464 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4018 times:

Good for MVD! They deserve it; it is not nice to deplane and wait for 2 hours in EZE where you can not even exit the gate area, although the EZE-MVD flight is very nice; 25 minutes at 10,000 feet over Rio de la Plata is very cool. I'm guessing they will be able to load it up very often, and it will be often full of cargo.


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User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2451 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3907 times:

Quoting Yu138086 (Reply 1):
I have observed the AA flight from EZE to MVD many times and must say that it's usually just 20% full (on a GOOD day). I'm sure the reasons they fly to MVD frm EZE are political as I doubt this R/T route is profitable.

I flew MVD-EZE-MVD on AA's B777 and the load factor on both legs was around 35% with lots of cargo. Although AA and UA have fifth freedom rights on this route, there is not much traffic, since it is more convenient for passengers to fly from/to AEP. Considering that the flight can be purchased by people with journeys starting or ending in EZE, you will never get full loads on the MVD-EZE-MVD, but you can still have a profitable flight and serve both countries with one flight. Once you get enough demand, you can separate the flight and send a non-stop to each destination. I don't see why AA will keep flying to MVD just for political reasons...


User currently offlinePU752 From Uruguay, joined Mar 2005, 584 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3870 times:

Quoting Rojo (Reply 9):
Although AA and UA have fifth freedom rights on this route, there is not much traffic, since it is more convenient for passengers to fly from/to AEP

Definately right, basically 90% of passengers that get into both UA and AA flights from MVD they get into the US not to Buenos Aires, so I dont see why you would take AA or UA to go to Buenos Aires when you will be quite far away from the city itself of BA, boarding time on AA or UA its quite longer than the normal puente aereo with PU/AR/UE/PZ and other, and the fares on UA and AA are a little bit more expensive thant PU or AR.


User currently offlineIncitatus From Brazil, joined Feb 2005, 4014 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3795 times:

What I fail to grasp is why it took so long for American to figure out that MVD could be served profitably nonstop.

Likewise I just realized there is no nonstop Phoenix-Miami on AA!!! Unfreakingbelievable.



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User currently offlineNYCFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3790 times:

Back in June 2001 I flew JFK to MVD, flt # 951, a one-stop through GRU. Has that been discontinued? No more one-stops to MVD from JFK?

User currently offlinePZ707 From Paraguay, joined Mar 2005, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3757 times:

Quoting NYCFlyer (Reply 12):

Actually it is flt 951 jfk-gru, at that time this flight merge with one of the two mia-gru flts and continue to mvd. The other Mia-Gru flight continue to Asu. Now Mvd flights are trough Eze only.


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32780 posts, RR: 72
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3711 times:

Quoting Incitatus (Reply 11):
Likewise I just realized there is no nonstop Phoenix-Miami on AA!!!

That gap won't be around for long. AA has long had a weak domestic network out of Miami, but has been filling the holes in lately. In the past two years, they have added Charlotte, Las Vegas, Minneapolis, Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, Columbus, Cincinnati, and Richmond. This summer, they are adding three more: Memphis, Louisville, and Norfolk. More new destinations will be added over the coming year, and Phoenix is definitley bound to be one of them. America West offers three daily MIA/FLL-PHX flights. No reason AA can't be popular in the market.



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