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Air France A300 Etops In 1976?  
User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6867 posts, RR: 7
Posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3354 times:

Couldn't find the thread-- but a while back guys were discussing early ETOPS flights and somebody said Air France flew an A300 from JFK to the Caribbean in the late 1970s. Sure nuff, the 3/76 OAG shows a nonstop A300 from JFK to Pointe a Pitre. Of course they could stay within 60 minutes/400 nm (or whatever) of an airport with a moderate dogleg, but seems to me the guy said they did get outside the 60-minute limit. Anybody heard of such a thing at that time?

Would it have to be an A300B2 in 3/76? Would that be a longish trip for a B2?

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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7415 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 3225 times:

AF received its first A300B4 (F-BVGG) in Nov.1975

In 1976, AF had quite a small fleet (9 a/c) of A300 :

- B2 : F-BVGA/B/C/D/E/F
- B4 : F-BVGG/H & F-ODCY

JFK-PTP is 2949km (1832mi) which is a too long distance for a -B2


User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3134 times:

Wouldn't the registration F-ODCY indicate that it was registered in the DOM's, so there would be indeed a chance that this particular aircraft was used on the JFK-PTP run?


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User currently offlinePADSpot From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3069 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 1):
JFK-PTP is 2949km (1832mi) which is a too long distance for a -B2

According to airliners.net tech information the B2 has a max range of 3430km (1850nm) and could do the JFK-PTP leg. But how did it come to JFK ?


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26599 posts, RR: 75
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3061 times:

Quoting PADSpot (Reply 3):
According to airliners.net tech information

Never use A.net's information

Quoting PADSpot (Reply 3):
But how did it come to JFK ?

It was likely based in PTP



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7415 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2976 times:

Quoting PADSpot (Reply 3):
According to airliners.net tech information the B2 has a max range of 3430km

That's the performance given by the manufacturer but "in real", with full load, with high air temperature, I can tell you that the preformnaces were less :

AF had often problems on ATH-CDG, in summer. And couldn't fly TLV-CDG nonstop.

ATH-CDG is only 2112 km and TLV-CDG is 3288 km.


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7415 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 2917 times:

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 2):
Wouldn't the registration F-ODCY indicate that it was registered in the DOM's, so there would be indeed a chance that this particular aircraft was used on the JFK-PTP run?

No. It doesn't mean anything : The A320 based now in PTP is registered F-GKXC. And actually, F-ODCY was never really usd by AF. It was painted in AF's livery but used by Airbus Industries. It was later sold to Hapag LLoyd, Dan Air London, Air Inter, and since 1995 by Grand Air.


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