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F9 Applies For DEN-CZM, MCI-PVR, SLC-PVR  
User currently offlineJkudall From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 615 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 9 hours ago) and read 2737 times:

Frontier has applied with the DOT to begin servicing Cozumel from Denver and Puerto Vellarta from Kansas City and Salt Lake City beginning around November.

I smell a war between DL/F9 with SLC-Mexico routes.

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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 46
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 hours ago) and read 2711 times:

Quoting Jkudall (Thread starter):
I smell a war between DL/F9 with SLC-Mexico routes.

I smell DL applying for Saturday-only 738 service on SLC-PVR to be exact. When F9 applied for SLC-CUN, DL reacted fast, and applied as well. Although, DL's flights is going daily, while F9's remains a Saturday-only service.
Nonetheless, nice to see that F9 is further continuing its focus on service from Mexico, both from its DEN hub, and p2p.


User currently offlineJkudall From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 hours ago) and read 2688 times:

If anyone is interested, this docket has been pretty interesting to read over the last couple weeks. It is regarding ASA's plan to offer daily SLC-SJD service this summer during the low peak season to compliment DL's SLC-SJD service during the winter. The responses from F9 and ASA are quite interesting.


Go to:
http://dms.dot.gov/search/searchFormSimple.cfm

and do a search for docket: 20927 then click on the PDF flies (It doesn't really get interesting until the F9 response)


User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24634 posts, RR: 86
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 hours ago) and read 2548 times:
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Jkudall:

This is not the first time this has happened. United protested some America West/Mesa applications last year for service from LAX to Mexico..

The problem is as stated by United - since only two US ailrines can serve any city pair between the US and Mexico, one airline can effectively control the market if its express airline gets the authority as well.

Obviously, this is extremely anti-competetive.

The DOT is aware of the problem but says that - at the moment - there isn't a lot they can do. It is perfectly legal within the bilateral, since the express provider operates under a sperate AOC.

Thus - theoretically - two airlines are serving the route.

Theoretically. I assume it is one of the things being discussed in the present ongoing talks with Mexico about the bilateral.

cheers

mariner



aeternum nauta
User currently offlineAirplaneBoy From United States of America, joined May 2004, 548 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 hours ago) and read 2508 times:

Thanks for sharing!

How are you able to track this information on www.dot.gov?

Thank you!

Cheers!!!

AirplaneBoy


User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6479 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2332 times:

As expected, DL applied today to fly SLC-PVR daily, year-round with the 738 beginning on November 1st. It's nice to see growth at the SLC hub even if DL is copying F9.

Here's the link to DL's application:

http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf91/326447_web.pdf


User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24634 posts, RR: 86
Reply 6, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2294 times:
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Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 5):
SLC-PVR daily, year-round with the 738

Daily? Year round? With a 738?

No wonder they just lost $1.1 billion in a single quarter.  cheerful 

cheers

mariner



aeternum nauta
User currently offlineAirplaneBoy From United States of America, joined May 2004, 548 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2229 times:

I'm with you on that one Mariner!

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