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Continental's EWR Expansion  
User currently offlineERAU Pilot From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 29 posts, RR: 0
Posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1558 times:

Has anyone seen any design plans for Continental's Terminal C Expansion? I wasn't sure if they have released any photo's or diagrams showing the layout of the new concouse and improvements that they are currently working on. I know that the new International concourse is being built were the current commuter's all park, so where will they move all of the Express operations? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

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User currently offlineVA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1356 times:

Go to http://www.panynj.gov/ and you will see a model of the future Terminal C. That is it, I think.

Hope that helps, find anything else, please post it, I would like to have a look



User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16865 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1327 times:

I saw a picture of it in the Newark Star Ledger,however it was kind of a distant picture with not much detail.

I'll tell you what I know from my recent visits and pictures I have seen in the papers.

First they have completed a new baggage facility between concourse # 2 and the new concourse.Very modern baggage sorting facility,I watched them put it up with all the new tunnels leading to it.On top of the baggage facility they have completed on the outside a new Presidents Club,this club will be their largest by far.Huge glass walls facing the tarmac which are about two to three stories high.They are reducing Monorail service this Summer on weekends in order to work on upper levels of the new Presidents Club and new concourse.

At top of Terminal C they are building a large control tower,I assume this will be for Continental's ground controlers.

So far they have completed some sort of building next to concourse two and connected it to the new Presidents Club that already has four gates in and ready to go.I'm very confused myself about how this will look in the end but I can say it will be very big.On the other side of this building are no gates or windows but on the ground floor there are glass walls with many glass doorways,kind of like a outdoor mall.It looks like they are putting in store fronts,but I doubt it.Probably it either facilitys faor ground crews like a cafeteria and lounge,or waiting areas for Continental Express where people will walk out ot the planes.The gates on the other side are too close together for widebodies which makes me think they are either more narrowbody gates or gates for Regional Jets.

The new concourse itself has not got past the driving the piling phase yet,the new concourse it self will be connected to the building already nearly completed with the four gates,and to the new Presidents Club.

The new concourse from what I read will be able to handle twelve widebodies,now whether that means twelve gates or just that it can handle twevle widebodies I dont know.From what I've seen in the papers it is going to be very nice with lots of glass,very large like conmcourse # 1 at Terminal C.

Right now Continental Expreses aircraft park very close to runway 11-29 where they are building or have finished already new taxiways for the new concourses.

On the side of Terminal C is where they are building the new Customs and Immigragtion hall.This is going to be a large facility which might necessitate the demolition of the current Continental Express Concourse,Im not sure.Any way it will be a multi level facility much like the current International/customs facility at Terminal B.

They are expanding outwards the corridors between the current concourse 2 and link it with they new areas,which will provide much more retail areas.I believe they are going to do this for the area betwen concourses one and too.

The lower level of the Terminal which was parking is under construction to be turned into the new arrivals area with ten new oversized baggage carosels.

They have closed off portions of the short term and daily lots in the front but I dont see any pillings being driven yet for the new parking garage.The parking garage near the long term monrail station is well under way.As is the new control tower behind the Marriott.

Some old cargo buildings are currently being demolished at the North Area to be replaced with a new Port Authority Administration Building and rescue facilities.The curent building and control will eventually be demolished to allow for mor etaxiways and hard stand areas.

United is building a new cargo building but Im not sure if Continental has started theirs yet,or their new hangars,engine shop or parts warehouse.

As you can tell from my post alot is going on and Im not exactly sure what everything is or how far along they are.

The monorail by the way is almost to the Station on the North Eastb Corridor tracks,and the station itself is up and being filled out now.

Any questions?





Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16865 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1320 times:

Currently all Continental Express Aircraft are parked at an area very close to runway 11-29,where they're currently are or already have built taxiways and a bridge over a stream.

Work has been finished already on a new very large and modern baggage facility between concourse two and the new areas.On topm of this baggage facility they have built a huge Presidents Club with a glass wall two to three stories high facing the tarmac.Connected to that they have finished a building that already has four gates set up and ready to go,these gates are too close together for widebodies so it's either for narrowbodies or ERJs.

On the other side of this building there are no windows except on the ground floor which looks like store fronts of a suburban outdoor mall with all of its glass windows and glass double doors.This is either for Continental Express passengers to exit the terminal and walk out to the planes or some sort of lounge and cafeteria for Continental employees.

Again next to this building heading towards the end of the terminal where the old two gate stub concourse was and in fron of the current Continental Express concourse is where they have put in the pilings for the new twelve wide body gate concourse,which will be shaped something like Terminal C's current concourse #1.

And on the side of the Terminal is where they are building the new international arrivals and customs hall,this building is going to be very large and mulit leveled like the current hall at Terminal B.

All these new areas will be connected to each other and the Terminal itself,on top of the Terminal they are also building a large control tower for Continental's gorund controllers.

The parking gagrage in front of Terminal C has yet to sprout up,however the parking garage next to Terminal C at the Long term Monorail lot is moving along quickly.
The Monorail itself is almost completely if not already completely to the new rail station on The North East corridor where passengers on NJ Transit and Amtrak will be able to connect with flights from Newark.The Stations fram is up and they are currently filling it out.

The new Airport control tower behind the Marrott hotel is starting to rise up,and the demolition of some old cargo buildings at the North side of the airport will make way for a new Port Authority Administration and rescue building.They will jack up and move Newarks original Terminal at the North Area and incorporate it into the new administration buildings.They will cut it into three pieces and move over some taxi ways to its new home.

It looks like Continental has started their new cargo building too,but Im not sure.I haven't seen any evidence of their new Hangar,engine shop or parts warehouse they are to build.

Alot is going on and Im not sure what everything is or how far along it is but if you have any more questions,I've been following the Global Gateway project closely.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineIahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3433 posts, RR: 41
Reply 4, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1307 times:
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EWR isn't the only place CO is expanding. Plans are underway to build 15-20 new gates and a new international arrivals terminal at IAH. CO is to build the gates, while the City of Houston will build Terminal "E". Groundbreaking for the gate area (located east of gates C-47/48) is said to be in August of this year. Terminal E will rise from the terminal D parking area at some as yet unmentioned future date.


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User currently offlineAKelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2192 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1289 times:

I'm assuming that once Terminal C is completely finished they'll move the Continental flights that fly out of Terminal B and move them back to Terminal C?

Also, will any other airlines be using Terminal C? Or will this be a purely Continental Terminal?


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16865 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1285 times:

Right now America West and Air France use Terminal C,depending on their future relationship they might stay or move to gates Continental currently uses at Terminal's A and B.

They may keep the London flights at Terminal B since they are in conjuction with Virgin's flights,or they could move those flights and Virgin to Terminal C.

As for the future of Continental flights out of Terminal A,they may keep those flights or move Continental Express in there.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineCyrusc From Malaysia, joined Sep 2011, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1253 times:

Another important development at EWR is the train station as STT757 mentioned. Once opened, EWR will only be a 20 minute train ride from Penn Station in Manhattan, and very accesible from many other points as well. I believe that will be a great incentive for people to choose EWR over the other two when travelling to NYC, and Continental will no doubt advertise it. According to articles I read, the planners estimate 10,000 people to use it daily, but many say that may be a conservative estimate.

cyrus


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16865 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1254 times:

Not only is the new station good for trips from Manhattan or New Jersey suburbs,it will feed traffic into the airport from other cities.

Continental is planning on having passengers connect to Newark from two hours away by Amtrak,this would help Continental a great deal since they have been reducing the number or Continental Express flights in favor of larger longer distance flights.The airport is too crowded for COEX flights to smaller communities like Bridgeport CT or large but close by cities like Philadelphia.

An alliance between Continental and Amtrak will provide a faster alternative to some passengers who would either drive or put up with possible ATC delays on short hops.Another benefit from this alliance would be if there are weather or other delays,the passengers from cancelled flights could be rebooked onto Amtrak.

Amtrak currently has Metroliner service to the BWI airport station,Amtrak's new Acela express trains will replace Metroliners and extend high speed service north of New York to Boston.It is most likely that Acela Express trains will stop at the Newark airport station,and this will put many more cities within two hours of the airport.And Amtraks's Acela trains offer Business class and on the twilight shoreliner first class sleeper service,which would be a nice choice for Business First passengers using the trains as a connection.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
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