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Emirates To Delay Some European Destinations  
User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 24
Posted (9 years 5 months 19 hours ago) and read 8466 times:

Following a message on the Geneva Airport Website,EK have decided to postpone the introduction of flights from Geneva to Dubai due to unavailability of aircraft.It is assumed that also the flights from Hamburg will be delayed.
Probabely EK have re-allocated resources onto higher-yield oportunities...
http://www.gva.ch/fr/default.htm


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User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 19 hours ago) and read 8390 times:

I noticed EK have increased several services to Asia and Africa since end of March, but I haven't yet checked their timetable updates for May.

Delay due to shortage of aircraft...lovely!  bigthumbsup 


Regards
Udo


User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2889 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 19 hours ago) and read 8335 times:

That should SOMEWHAT justify their huge order backlog

User currently offlineLHSTR From Germany, joined Mar 2001, 226 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 19 hours ago) and read 8316 times:

My guess would be lack of traffic rights. At least in the case of Hamburg.

From what I have heard, the bilateral between Germany and the UAE allows three gateways in each country. EK flies to FRA, MUC and DUS and therefore no additional gateways are allowed.


User currently offlineEKcrew From United Arab Emirates, joined Feb 2005, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 12 hours ago) and read 8062 times:

No, landing rights for HAM have already been granted and the flight will start as scheduled i.e. October 2005. Geneve operations have only been postponed to 4 weeks.

User currently offlineEmirates777 From Tanzania, joined Feb 2000, 655 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 3 hours ago) and read 7755 times:

The Geneva flight has been deferred until further notice as the A330-200 LD confg. aircraft scheduled to operate that route has been re-allocated to operate an additional West African frequency. So as Beaucaire indicated they are re-deploying capacity on higher yielding routes. However, Hamburg (HAM) is going ahead as planned.

EKcrew - i understand GVA has been postponed beyond 4 weeks and likely goes online during 2Q06 once additional capacity arrives.

Effective 1 December 2005, Lagos (LOS) and Accra (ACC) will be de-linked. Both destinations will get dedicated daily flights, all op. by A330-200 LD config. acft.

Looking at the flight timings it wouldnt surprise me if Emirates added an extra sector on the Accra flights. It would likely be Abidjan (Ivory Coast) or Dakar (Senegal). I think its more likely Abidjan.

The Lagos flights are already so full that it is unlikely they add another sector unless they upgrade the aircraft size. Extension of Lagos would likely be to a combination of Abuja and Kano. Of course, Emirates is still awaiting clearance from the Nigerian authorities for these permissions.

Rgds
Emirates777


User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 3 hours ago) and read 7712 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 2):
That should SOMEWHAT justify their huge order backlog

Yes, I get the picture  Wink


Lee



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User currently offlineT154M From United Arab Emirates, joined Apr 2005, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 1 hour ago) and read 7508 times:

Exactly Emirates777,
Lagos will have a dedicated flight which will terminate there. Daily
Accra will have a seperate flight which will continue to Abidjan confirmed Daily.
As to Abuja and Kano both will have dedicated flights each Daily. Govt approval is given. Emirates is only negotiating to lower the fees per seat that the nigerian govt asking for...
As to the GVA service EK is rethinking not to fly there atl all.


User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2930 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7314 times:

Does this mean finally an end to the rumours about Cardiff, Carlisle, Newcastle, Humberside, and Hinton-In-The-Hedges, or shall we start a rumour that EK are about to swoop on all NW's DC-9 fleet to maintain this massive expansion ??  smirk 

Shamu



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7317 times:

Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 8):
Cardiff, Carlisle, Newcastle, Humberside, and Hinton-In-The-Hedges,

It's Walton-on-the-Naze, not Hinton - EK are scheduled to start A380 service Walton-DXB double daily from summer 2006.


User currently offlineA319114 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 541 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7107 times:

I still find it amazing that EK doesn't fly to Amsterdam...


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User currently offlineEurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7099 times:

Quoting T154M (Reply 7):
As to Abuja and Kano both will have dedicated flights each Daily. Govt approval is given. Emirates is only negotiating to lower the fees per seat that the nigerian govt asking for...

And what is your source on this? I doubt it ABV and KAN will be operated daily each!!!



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User currently offlineJETSTREAM63 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6617 times:
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EK should consider a route from DXB to Dublin as there are still no nonstops to Ireland from the Middle East, except for the SQ 744F which I think comes in from SIN via Sharjah. Plenty of sixth freedom traffic from Ireland to Far East/Australia too.

User currently offlineT154M From United Arab Emirates, joined Apr 2005, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6589 times:

EurostarVA
Sorry cant tell you my source However its upper Mgt in EK.


User currently offlineT154M From United Arab Emirates, joined Apr 2005, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6495 times:

It was posted in local newspapers few weeks ago about EK future destinations and they include:

Abidjan
Free Town
Antananarivo
Cape Town
Algiers
Tunis
Lusaka
Kinshasa
Dublin
Amsterdam
Copenhagen
Prague
Chicago
Los Angeles
Washington
Houston
Toronto
Vancouver
Boston
San Fransisco
Tokyo
Taipei
Adelaide
Bangalore


User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2954 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6179 times:

In response to reply 14,
Tokyo cannot physically happen. I am sure they have wanted to serve since the late 90s but just can't because of runway slot limitations.
UAE & Japan recently concluded a deal for additional frequencies between each country perhaps they will fly into Nagoya.


User currently offline9V-SVC From Singapore, joined Oct 2001, 1797 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6147 times:

I can't wait for them to start flights to AMS, I noticed none of the middleeast airlines and few Asian Airlines flying to AMS , why is that so ? Any idea?


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User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6113 times:

Quoting 9V-SVC (Reply 16):
I can't wait for them to start flights to AMS, I noticed none of the middleeast airlines and few Asian Airlines flying to AMS , why is that so ? Any idea?

Dutch business and leasure travels are much focussed on the USA ,Asia and the mediterranean counties.Traditionally and historically, Holland was never a "player " in the Middle East or Gulf region in comparision with the UK ( clearly Gulf influence ),France ( Lebanon,Egypt ) or Germany ( strong ties with Turkey ). The dutch have always been a trader's nation but the strong areas of interests have been in Indonesia ,the Caraïbes and South Africa.



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User currently offlineGustyOrange From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 5871 times:

Any word on GLA going double daily anyone ?

We are getting the 773 in October this year.

Hopefully EK will be double daily come October 2006.

Cheers

Gusty


User currently offlineZaphod From United Arab Emirates, joined Feb 2004, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5541 times:

Just to add to this, this came in a couple of days back and clearly says that the service now stands cancelled.
HAM is definitely happening. Airport staff are currently being recruited.

CANCELLATION OF SERVICES TO GENEVA<
-------------------------------------<
GVA OPERATIONS WILL NOT COMMENCE EFFECTIVE 01DEC05. HENCE THE<
DAILY EK085/086 DXB-GVA-DXB SERVICE EFFECTIVE 01DEC05 STANDS<
CANCELLED.


User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5485 times:

Quoting T154M (Reply 14):

Chicago
Los Angeles
Washington
Houston
Toronto
Vancouver
Boston
San Fransisco

Eight additional North American gateways is very ambitious indeed. Are they anticipating tourist traffic to Dubai from North America. What's the timeframe? Would these all be nonstops to DXB or with intermediate stops elsewhere?


User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2384 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5437 times:

Quoting GustyOrange (Reply 18):
Any word on GLA going double daily anyone ?

We are getting the 773 in October this year.

Hopefully EK will be double daily come October 2006.

Cheers

Gusty

http://business.scotsman.com/transport.cfm?id=413652005

Seems they might well choose EDI over 2x daily GLA initially. Which would make sense these days inkeeping with what CO and CSA have done.


User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3042 posts, RR: 28
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5389 times:

Very interesting to see that Chicago is in the list. I'm assuming if they do fly to Chicago they will use an A340-500. Let's see when this will happen.

User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12466 posts, RR: 37
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5300 times:

It all depends on what aircraft they get. Presumably they are scrambling around madly, trying to look for suitable aircraft. There was a rumour, some time back, that they were looking at four ex-LH A340s. The problem is, of course, that there is a serious lack of medium/long haul widebodies right now.

Maybe one determining factor might be how the proposed destinations might help EK in this regard. How, I'm not quite sure, but maybe in the case of DUB, the Irish govt could help co-ordinate some financial package for EK, dependant on their flying to DUB by next Summer.


User currently offlineNeo From Brazil, joined Jan 2001, 672 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5149 times:

Quoting T154M (Reply 14):
It was posted in local newspapers few weeks ago about EK future destinations and they include:

Abidjan
Free Town
Antananarivo
Cape Town
Algiers
Tunis
Lusaka
Kinshasa
Dublin
Amsterdam
Copenhagen
Prague
Chicago
Los Angeles
Washington
Houston
Toronto
Vancouver
Boston
San Fransisco
Tokyo
Taipei
Adelaide
Bangalore

This is looking more like your wish list than the actual cities EK is planing to serve in the next years. You haven't mentioned the name of your source yet so it is not reliable.

Boston
Cape Town
Antananarivo
Washington

hum..... hard to believe....!!!

Rgs,

Neo


25 A340-Fan : @ 9V-SVC: RJ, IR, RB and LY are flying from their home countries in the middle east to AMS.
26 Post contains images DIJKKIJK : amen to that, and I can't figure out why on earth they fly to Dusseldorf?
27 Jsnww81 : Dusseldorf does seem like an odd choice, especially ahead of a major gateway like Amsterdam. But I was at DUS last November and saw the Emirates fligh
28 Behramjee : CPT and IAD are not hard to believe at all...infact EK has gone on record as saying that if they werent limited to 14 weekly flights to South Africa
29 T154M : Al Khaleej Local News Paper few weeks ago. By the way this wish list as you call it stretch from 2006-2012
30 Horus : Also Egyptair from CAI. Horus
31 EKcrew : DUS is an extremely busy route for EK with flights being almost 100% full year round. As of March 2006 DUS will be going double daily. The morning fli
32 LifelinerOne : Well, we do have their cargo-flights at AMS... As stated above, Emirates will definitely bring pax-services to AMS in the near future. Cheers!
33 Airevents : The catchment area of DUS is the second largest in Europe after London. Around 10 mio people can be at DUS airport within an hour�s drive. The qu
34 LO231 : We are selling DUS-DXB flights quite a lot here in Belgium too, EK have quite attractive fares ex-DUS, compared to ex-BRU on interline carries to FRA
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