Gener8tion From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 25 posts, RR: 0 Posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks ago) and read 7512 times:
Whats with captains wearing baseball caps in the cockpit?? I swear at our airline ONE in every 10 pilots wears one while flying. At first I thought it was cute.....but now have turned to the impression that its not professional any more......I now think it looks stupid......
Jdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 838 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7458 times:
They don't put them on until the the cockpit door is closed. I don't see a problem with pilots wearing something that blocks the sun glare of makes wearing headsets more comfortable. If they were wearing them around the terminal there would be a problem, but less the people at the gate looking at them from the gate no one else will see them.
YYZ757FAN From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7414 times:
I don't see a problem with a pilot wearing a ball cap while in the cockpit. I see many pilots putting them on after the doors close. I would not be surprised if some superstitious pilots wear them as a good luck charm while they fly. They do help with the headsets.
VIflyer From US Virgin Islands, joined May 1999, 502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7149 times:
I know I do when I'm doing my own flying. My reasoning is that I'm slowly going bald and where my headset naturally rest is right on my balding spot and it get really uncomfortable after a while.
At my company I've only seen a handful of guys that do wear a baseball cap while flying. All of them take it off when the cockpit door is open and ironically all of them are either bald or balding.
HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31851 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6902 times:
Quoting Jdwfloyd (Reply 2): They don't put them on until the the cockpit door is closed. I don't see a problem with pilots wearing something that blocks the sun glare of makes wearing headsets more comfortable
Agreed totally.As long its a Plus point.
Ntspelich From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 764 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6774 times:
Yeah, I mean the only people who see them wearing hats are the other person in the cockpit, any observers, the f/a's if they go up to bring them something to eat/drink and the folks on the ramp when we bring the plane in or push it out. Now, if there was some sort of cockpit cam that showed up on the plane's IFE that would be another story, maybe.
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CORULEZ05 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6510 times:
I have never seen a pilot or co-pilot with a baseball cap. For some reason the only pilots I would expect to see with baseball caps on would be Southwest pilots. To an extent, it is unprofessional but I don't think it intereferes with their ability to fly the plane which is all I care about after all. Btw, are pilots suppose to have perfect 20/20 vision without contacts or glasses? For some reason, I think that is the case but I was watching Airline the other night and the pilot that was going to retire had glasses on the whole time. I know it is off topic but it is kind of related to baseball caps sort of.
I have never seen a pilot or co-pilot with a baseball cap. For some reason the only pilots I would expect to see with baseball caps on would be Southwest pilots. To an extent, it is unprofessional but I don't think it intereferes with their ability to fly the plane which is all I care about after all. Btw, are pilots suppose to have perfect 20/20 vision without contacts or glasses? For some reason, I think that is the case but I was watching Airline the other night and the pilot that was going to retire had glasses on the whole time.
I have seen everything from 1900 pilots to a 744 capt. wearing baseball caps, also pilots do not need 20/20 uncorrected vision. Plenty of pilots wear glasses.
Lt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6467 times:
as a sidenote, for what it is worth, it is very common in the Air Force to wear ball caps while flying, on many many different large airframes. On the E-3 many folks wear them both frontend and backend. I wore my Texas hat on 15 of 16 combat sorties over Iraq-- we had some yahoo general on board one flight and couldn't LOL. I have friends in B-52s, B-1s, E-8s and KC-135s who do it also. It is pretty common.
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I think it looks cool. When I worked for B6, many of the pilots were seen wearing baseball caps. I guess it really depends on the airline. I could see where the legacies it may not fly, but with the new LCC's, it works. Just a thought!
SkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6194 times:
We've got our fair share of hat wearing pilots. I can say, that from my personal on going experiences of flying, a hat does wonders for those who don't have or wear sunglasses. They also provide a little more cushioning between your head and the headset band which is always a plus. Wearing a baseball style hat has nothing to do with be unprofessional, its a matter of personal preference, and we must not forget that all pilots are normal people too. Everyone has their own personal style that they feel comfortable in. What's next, we'll see a thread about pilots talking on their cell phones while pax are boarding and deplaning. So I'll put that to a rest now, its their only means of staying in contact with their wife, girlfriend, friends or family; you can't expect pilots to give up all their freedoms when they are away from home a lot and "out of the loop" with the rest of the world while they are always in the skies. In all, pilots are people too.
Duke From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 1186 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6069 times:
I saw a picture of an Adria Airways crew. If I saw correctly, the pilots wore a casualized version of the traditional uniform, with baseball caps and pants in navy and white polo shirts with the correctly marked epaulettes.
Future757 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5936 times:
SkyexRamper, I couldn't agree more with your post. I am not a pilot yet, but hope to be in the future, but I drive a lot and I know from experience that a baseball cap makes a world of difference. You would not catch me on a nice sunny day without my baseball cap and sunglasses. I get a headache and get very tired if I don't shield my eyes from the sun. I guess me personally, who cares about being professional, safety first. I'll take a captain with a baseball cap before a tired captain or one with a headache. Just my two cents.
AirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5924 times:
Also, remember pilots are by nature usually very superstitious people and some, as I know for example at least in my case, I liked my trusty T/C Twins cap for good luck if for no other reason.
Also, as mentioned above, there is some un-written tradition of pilots in the military wearing ball caps, and for those that don't have to wear a helmet, I'm all for that, although the thing about saluting might be conflicted since the flight suit is still a military uniform. I think while on the flight deck it's no problem, but off the plane the military cover comes back on, at least in the Marine C-130 squads. Marines are sticklers for removing your headgear indoors even when in civies, while the Navy and Air Force units are good about allowance for such things. I've seen many in both wear all sorts of ball caps and I figure that as long as the cap isn't too terribly ragged, which some seem to think is the in-fashion statement nowadays, I don't see a problem with them.
And then again, from back in my days in small little Cessna trainers, wearing my headset would start wearing on my head and the hat helped cushion it. I had a decent head set, perhaps not near as much as some had, but regardless after awhile I think any headset if worn long enough would begin to rub. That and the protection from the sun which believe it or not offered a noticable reduction in havint to squint even if worn with sunglasses, I just came to regard it as part of my flight bag.
Check out Bat-21 with Glover and Hackman, Danny has got a ballcap on when in his O-2.
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