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Pilots And Baseball Caps....  
User currently offlineGener8tion From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 25 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6363 times:

Sup?

Whats with captains wearing baseball caps in the cockpit?? I swear at our airline ONE in every 10 pilots wears one while flying. At first I thought it was cute.....but now have turned to the impression that its not professional any more......I now think it looks stupid......


Jonny
midwestx@wi.rr.com

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User currently offlineBwi757 From Israel, joined Dec 2004, 429 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6333 times:

Um, layman's guess:

The visor, combined with sunglasses keeps the sun out of their eyes so that they can see where they are going? That way they don't look stupid when they run the aircraft into something?

 duck 

BTW my unofficial survey of pictures of waving airline pilots don't show this?

BWI757



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User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6309 times:

They don't put them on until the the cockpit door is closed. I don't see a problem with pilots wearing something that blocks the sun glare of makes wearing headsets more comfortable. If they were wearing them around the terminal there would be a problem, but less the people at the gate looking at them from the gate no one else will see them.

User currently offlineYYZ757FAN From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6265 times:

I don't see a problem with a pilot wearing a ball cap while in the cockpit. I see many pilots putting them on after the doors close. I would not be surprised if some superstitious pilots wear them as a good luck charm while they fly. They do help with the headsets.

User currently offlineSilverfox From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1058 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6250 times:

I know one BA Concorde pilot did.
I must admit it looked 'not quite right', but he expalined it was dazzle etc


User currently offlineVIflyer From US Virgin Islands, joined May 1999, 500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 6000 times:

I know I do when I'm doing my own flying. My reasoning is that I'm slowly going bald and where my headset naturally rest is right on my balding spot and it get really uncomfortable after a while.
At my company I've only seen a handful of guys that do wear a baseball cap while flying. All of them take it off when the cockpit door is open and ironically all of them are either bald or balding.

Vi



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User currently offlineRAMPRAT980 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 600 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5952 times:

Hey if it helps the pilot to fly better, who cares.........unless of course he/she is chewing tobacco.


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User currently offlineBucky707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1028 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5815 times:

My doctor has recommended I wear a baseball hat to protect my eyes and my face. Good enough for me.

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 5753 times:

Quoting Jdwfloyd (Reply 2):
They don't put them on until the the cockpit door is closed. I don't see a problem with pilots wearing something that blocks the sun glare of makes wearing headsets more comfortable

Agreed totally.As long its a Plus point.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5655 times:


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no baseball caps here. I've never seen a comercial pilot even walking around the terminal with a baseball cap. Seems unprofessional. They are always wearing their uniform hat when I see them.

Regards.

note: Is that a deflector shielding sun light from the captains view?


User currently offlineNtspelich From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 764 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5625 times:

Yeah, I mean the only people who see them wearing hats are the other person in the cockpit, any observers, the f/a's if they go up to bring them something to eat/drink and the folks on the ramp when we bring the plane in or push it out. Now, if there was some sort of cockpit cam that showed up on the plane's IFE that would be another story, maybe.


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User currently onlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17055 posts, RR: 67
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5621 times:

Quoting Aa777jr (Reply 9):
note: Is that a deflector shielding sun light from the captains view?

Yes.



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User currently offlineRamerinianAir From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5379 times:

I hate having anything in my way of seeing! I do not wear anything beside sunglasses. I can't stand having something in the way!
SR



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User currently offlineCORULEZ05 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5361 times:

I have never seen a pilot or co-pilot with a baseball cap. For some reason the only pilots I would expect to see with baseball caps on would be Southwest pilots. To an extent, it is unprofessional but I don't think it intereferes with their ability to fly the plane which is all I care about after all. Btw, are pilots suppose to have perfect 20/20 vision without contacts or glasses? For some reason, I think that is the case but I was watching Airline the other night and the pilot that was going to retire had glasses on the whole time. I know it is off topic but it is kind of related to baseball caps sort of.

User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5338 times:

Quoting CORULEZ05 (Reply 13):

I have never seen a pilot or co-pilot with a baseball cap. For some reason the only pilots I would expect to see with baseball caps on would be Southwest pilots. To an extent, it is unprofessional but I don't think it intereferes with their ability to fly the plane which is all I care about after all. Btw, are pilots suppose to have perfect 20/20 vision without contacts or glasses? For some reason, I think that is the case but I was watching Airline the other night and the pilot that was going to retire had glasses on the whole time.

I have seen everything from 1900 pilots to a 744 capt. wearing baseball caps, also pilots do not need 20/20 uncorrected vision. Plenty of pilots wear glasses.


User currently offlineCosmicCruiser From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2255 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5335 times:

Quoting CORULEZ05 (Reply 13):
are pilots suppose to have perfect 20/20 vision without contacts or glasses? For some reason, I think that is the case

No...20/20 corrected. Most FAA medicals have you read 20/15


User currently offlineLt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5318 times:

as a sidenote, for what it is worth, it is very common in the Air Force to wear ball caps while flying, on many many different large airframes. On the E-3 many folks wear them both frontend and backend. I wore my Texas hat on 15 of 16 combat sorties over Iraq-- we had some yahoo general on board one flight and couldn't LOL. I have friends in B-52s, B-1s, E-8s and KC-135s who do it also. It is pretty common.

Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
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User currently offlineGMUAirbusA320 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 243 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5188 times:

Quoting Aa777jr (Reply 9):
Seems unprofessional

AA-What are you thinking?!??!  Smile
I think it looks cool. When I worked for B6, many of the pilots were seen wearing baseball caps. I guess it really depends on the airline. I could see where the legacies it may not fly, but with the new LCC's, it works. Just a thought!

Cheers,
GMUAirbusA320


User currently offlineLeamside From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 444 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5123 times:


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Click on the large photo. This crew appears to have been wearing baseball caps.


User currently offlineSkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5045 times:

We've got our fair share of hat wearing pilots. I can say, that from my personal on going experiences of flying, a hat does wonders for those who don't have or wear sunglasses. They also provide a little more cushioning between your head and the headset band which is always a plus. Wearing a baseball style hat has nothing to do with be unprofessional, its a matter of personal preference, and we must not forget that all pilots are normal people too. Everyone has their own personal style that they feel comfortable in. What's next, we'll see a thread about pilots talking on their cell phones while pax are boarding and deplaning. So I'll put that to a rest now, its their only means of staying in contact with their wife, girlfriend, friends or family; you can't expect pilots to give up all their freedoms when they are away from home a lot and "out of the loop" with the rest of the world while they are always in the skies. In all, pilots are people too.

User currently offlineDuke From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 1155 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4920 times:

I saw a picture of an Adria Airways crew. If I saw correctly, the pilots wore a casualized version of the traditional uniform, with baseball caps and pants in navy and white polo shirts with the correctly marked epaulettes.

User currently offlineFutureUALpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2605 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4830 times:

Ive seen them do it before, and my uncle has told me that he wears one when he flies sometimes as well. It doesnt bother me as long as it wont interfere with the pilot's performance while flying.


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User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3356 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4824 times:

Nok Air pilots have caps, they got polo shirts with stripes up their sleeves


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User currently offlineFuture757 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4787 times:

SkyexRamper, I couldn't agree more with your post. I am not a pilot yet, but hope to be in the future, but I drive a lot and I know from experience that a baseball cap makes a world of difference. You would not catch me on a nice sunny day without my baseball cap and sunglasses. I get a headache and get very tired if I don't shield my eyes from the sun. I guess me personally, who cares about being professional, safety first. I'll take a captain with a baseball cap before a tired captain or one with a headache. Just my two cents.

User currently offlineAirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 4775 times:

Also, remember pilots are by nature usually very superstitious people and some, as I know for example at least in my case, I liked my trusty T/C Twins cap for good luck if for no other reason.

Also, as mentioned above, there is some un-written tradition of pilots in the military wearing ball caps, and for those that don't have to wear a helmet, I'm all for that, although the thing about saluting might be conflicted since the flight suit is still a military uniform. I think while on the flight deck it's no problem, but off the plane the military cover comes back on, at least in the Marine C-130 squads. Marines are sticklers for removing your headgear indoors even when in civies, while the Navy and Air Force units are good about allowance for such things. I've seen many in both wear all sorts of ball caps and I figure that as long as the cap isn't too terribly ragged, which some seem to think is the in-fashion statement nowadays, I don't see a problem with them.

And then again, from back in my days in small little Cessna trainers, wearing my headset would start wearing on my head and the hat helped cushion it. I had a decent head set, perhaps not near as much as some had, but regardless after awhile I think any headset if worn long enough would begin to rub. That and the protection from the sun which believe it or not offered a noticable reduction in havint to squint even if worn with sunglasses, I just came to regard it as part of my flight bag.

Check out Bat-21 with Glover and Hackman, Danny has got a ballcap on when in his O-2.


25 Airborn757300 : It is one thing to wear a baseball cap as a visor to protect the sun and reflections in the cockpit. A couple of months back on a NW DC-9 flight from
26 CVG2LGA : what does it really matter! as long as its a New York Yankees cap. then you know your in good hands. laugh people! tchau DA
27 3201 : Captain Hillary Clinton in command of tonight's flight.
28 M404 : My favorites were the guys who still could have fun on the job and would wear the blue and white stripped train engineers cap. Before everything got s
29 Birdwatching : really? how about the terrorists? they will see them!
30 Captover : Everyday I see United's TED pilots walking around the terminals at Dulles with TED Baseball caps. It does kinda look weird with no other pilots doing
31 MD88Captain : It is not unprofessional. It is very professional. Anything that inproves your performance is a good thing. And a ball cap helps shield your eyes from
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