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What Happens To Flight Numbers Of Crashed Flights?  
User currently offlineYYZatcboy From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1003 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5436 times:
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I was Just wondering what happens to flight no.s of crashed flights. Do the airlines never use them again out of respect to the people on board or could we ( not anymore but before they were sold) find a swissair 111 ( which crashed off the Nova Scotia coast)?

Just curious
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User currently offlineDanialanwar From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5421 times:

Most (if not all) airlines do not use those numbers again until the incident is all but forgotten (a few decades later!). I dont think they do it to respect the victims but rather for PR reasons (who would want to sit on SR111 that crashed yesterday ...)

Swissair did change the flight number SR110/111 immediately (cant recall to what though), as did Singapore Airlines (SQ5/6 to SQ29/30)



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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2950 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5352 times:

Yes, they are almost always retired shortly thereafter, especially in cases where the media seizes on the number of the ill-fated flight: PA103, UA232, TW800, UA93, etc. I can't think of a case where such a well-known number has been reintroduced, even years after the crash.


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User currently offlineNavairjax From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5302 times:

I think the practice started back in the late 60s or early 70s. AA1 is still used today despite that same flight # plunging into Jamaica Bay back in the early 60s.

User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3389 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5189 times:

TWA 800 became TWA 801 I believe.


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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2950 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5166 times:

Quoting 777STL (Reply 4):
TWA 800 became TWA 801 I believe.

Flight 801 was the return flight CDG-JFK. After the crash, both were changed--I believe they became 924 and 925.



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User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3389 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5135 times:

Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 5):
Flight 801 was the return flight CDG-JFK. After the crash, both were changed--I believe they became 924 and 925.

Ahh really, okay.



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8416 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5088 times:
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User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5069 times:

I don't know if this is factual as airlines use it nowadays, but after DL191 all the airlines in operation changed their flight numbers of 191. Of course it may not hold true as most airlines use it now except DL and AA of course.


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User currently offlineNwajetset From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 139 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4842 times:

When a crash with fatallities occurrs, that said airline retires that number (so to speak) permanently. It is only removed from use by the carrier of the incident. All other carriers would still use these numbers.

User currently onlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4374 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4711 times:

Yes, AV052/053 has been AV020/021 since the crash of the 707.

User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4765 posts, RR: 43
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4648 times:

Air Canada still operates flight AC621, albeit not on the same route.

[Edited 2005-04-22 13:39:37]


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User currently offlineSK A340 From Sweden, joined Mar 2000, 845 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4618 times:

SK 751 is still used to WAW, but now from CPH instead of ARN. Although there were no casualties in the Gottröra incident.

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User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 41
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4590 times:

Quoting Danialanwar (Reply 1):

Swissair did change the flight number SR110/111 immediately (cant recall to what though), as did Singapore Airlines (SQ5/6 to SQ29/30)

The flights numbers were changed to 114 and 115. The worst about these numbers is the fact that their sum, 229 is exactly the amount of victims of the SR 111 crash !



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