JetSOUTHEAST From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6892 times:
Well I will be off to the airline academy to start my five week training course, which will help in my placement at a LCC or Regional Airline. Things change I guess, in 1997 I dreamed of working for AA as a F/A, but now I have decided to make a career at AirTran or Spirit, etc. I enjoyed the forum, I'll visit often.
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 11482 posts, RR: 54 Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6883 times:
JetSOUTHEAST From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6875 times:
Yeah, they will also train me upon employment. The point of the school is to help with employment, just like a college places its students. I am poorly qualified to get into the airlines, this might help.
STLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8466 posts, RR: 32 Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6839 times:
Quoting JetSOUTHEAST (Thread starter): I dreamed of working for AA as a F/A, but now I have decided to make a career at AirTran or Spirit, etc.
I'm sure your enthusiasm will take you far.
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September11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3464 posts, RR: 28 Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6819 times:
STLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8466 posts, RR: 32 Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6818 times:
Quoting JetSOUTHEAST (Reply 2): The point of the school is to help with employment, just like a college places its students. I am poorly qualified to get into the airlines, this might help.
Why are you poorly qualified? Is this a personal assessment of yourself (which will go great in an interview, or is this after you have sat down and measured your own self against criteria generally listed on an airline's website as to how they go about hiring their employees?
This school also -wants- you to believe they help with employment. Why? They want you to pay the fee to go there. After you finish, all they'll tell you is where and to whom to send your resume. They're not going to just find a job for you unless they have a great deal with Counry Bob's Scenic Air Tours in Dodge City, Kansas.
I hope you've thought about all of this before you went and signed up and dropped the deposit fee.
As mentioned earlier, most airlines give you all the training you will ever need. Hopefully you've gone to website after website sending out as many resumes or filling out as many forms as you possibly can letting them tell you you are unqualified before going off and doing something like this.
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Admluvs2fly From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 166 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6766 times:
I hope this is not true.
GUY, don't waste your money. This school should be investigated.
Please don't do it. There are several airlines that will teach you all there is to know.
NonRevKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6718 times:
DO NOT GIVE THEM ANY MONEY!!!
You do not need to go to school to work for Airtran or Spirit! Hahaha some of their employees barely graduated high school. Schools like this can't train you properly because they have no idea which aircraft the airline you will get on with operates. Also, each airlines policies, requirements, and services are different.
Seriously, these schools are a scam. If an airline is interested in you, you get an interview, and they will hire you and will train you themselves. Believe me, Just apply on any airlines website.
Please don't make this mistake. You will regret it when you're in FA training with people "off the street".
FLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1183 posts, RR: 13 Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6701 times:
Quoting JetSOUTHEAST (Reply 2): I am poorly qualified to get into the airlines, this might help.
Who told you this?
Quoting JetSOUTHEAST (Reply 2): The point of the school is to help with employment, just like a college places its students
Colleges don't place students, necessarily. They prepare you to face the business world. Each airline has its own "college" that prepares you for life in that airline.
JetSOUTHEAST From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6657 times:
"is this after you have sat down and measured your own self against criteria generally listed on an airline's website as to how they go about hiring their employees?"
I used the criteria. BTW, the school has a working relationship with numerous airlines, as I have spoken to various companies who choose their graduates over people off the street. Reading the airline criteria, I do not have 2 years customer service experience. Put it this way, the school made me wait a year and a half just to get in, because it is full. After 9/11, it is harder to get in as a flight attendant, and you should be competitive. This school contracts with Delta Airlines and uses their training facilities for training, and the school teaches you basics, not specific airplanes. It is said 50% of the people who go to the airlines training courses will fail.
JetSOUTHEAST From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6624 times:
BTW, Continental Express' application has a specific section on their application with a list of various "Aviation Schools" and mine is one of them. Considering the high amount of graduates COX hires from the school, I believe they use this as a preferance over "the average joe with no experience". It's well worth the money if you get a job right away, which most graduates have gotten.
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 11482 posts, RR: 54 Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6596 times:
JetSOUTHEAST, I think this school has done a wonderful job of selling you on the school. Like others have said all airlines will train you and IMHO the one who will benefit the most from having you attend this school, is the school.... They after all will have your money.
STLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8466 posts, RR: 32 Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6593 times:
Quoting JetSOUTHEAST (Reply 9): BTW, the school has a working relationship with numerous airlines, as I have spoken to various companies who choose their graduates over people off the street
A "working relationship" is pure propaganda and guarantees you nothing, especially when it comes to a trade school. It just means that people who have gone there have happened to have gone, and applied to an airline and got hired...and then went through their own training program.
It doesn't matter if the school makes you wait a year and a half because it is full. It is full because people bought into it and they went there because Sally Struthers University's specialized accounting degree program was full because enough suckers enrolled. Just because Delta Air Lines uses the facilities, that doesn't mean they are going to hire you. It means that Delta Air Lines simply rents out use of their facilities.
If you don't have two years customer experience then you don't have two years customer service experience. Even if you went to this training academy, guess what....you still don't have two years customer service experience. Get a job and get two years customer experience.
Competitive doesn't mean you have gone to a flight attendant school. Competitive means that you have the drive and desire to get the job done. Competitive means that you are trainable to fit into their system and mold, especially if you want to make this a life long career. A lot of times, employers prefer to train you themselves. That way if you get a job with Kitty Airlines, you learn the Kitty Airlines way. Ra ra ra.
Be careful when you use the word college. Don't get fooled by it. Do your homework and your research. Find out what education association is accrediting the institution and what it really does for you once you graduate.
While you are it, research the best way to get your money back. Your time would be better spent getting that customer service experience.
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JetSOUTHEAST From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6567 times:
STLgph,
Education is important, and the airlines do look at that. This school was cheaper than college, and I think it will pay off. If they airlines see I paid to further my education, I am sure they will look at that in a good light. And no, I dont expect to get into Delta, not today, not anyday. It wont be long before they have the use AirTran's facilities because Delta collapsed.
777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2862 posts, RR: 4 Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6549 times:
You're paying for training to become a flight attendent?
I've seen it all now.....
You could go work at McDonalds to get customer service experience.
JetSOUTHEAST From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6542 times:
Oh, I have sent out numerous resumes, only to get no response whatsoever. I have filled out numerous applications, only to no avial. So getting more education IMHO is the best option. Work experience I dont believes helps as much, you don't learn as much as you would sitting in a classroom. Aside from that, there is a social advantage to this as well. With most jobs looking at employees visiting with each other as satanic, the school encourages it. Believe me, I have worked in quite a few places, you will get wrote up for even talking to other employees at times. In addition, various airlines send people to this school to INTERVIEW students, and numerous amounts have been hired before GRADUATING.
JetSOUTHEAST From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6532 times:
I dont WANT TO WORK AT MC.DONALDS. I just got some experience at h***, I mean Wal-Mart. Heck yeah I will pay to become a flight attendant. I believe in paying for my education, and using my hard earned money on that.
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 11482 posts, RR: 54 Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6528 times:
JetSOUTHEAST, real world work experience is better than this school.......
777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2862 posts, RR: 4 Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6523 times:
Not to demean what you're doing, but it can't be that difficult to get hired on at a regional. Not difficult enough to require applicants to get some kind of training before hand. I know plenty of people who've been hired on at the regionals as F/As and their work histories/educations are far from illustrious. Basically what I am telling you is it's unnecessary to go to "college" to become a F/A.
STLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8466 posts, RR: 32 Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6507 times:
Education is a good thing, that I don't deny. But a trade school such as this I severely question. It sounds too shady, especially when you spend 5 weeks learning all of this, only to turn around, get a job with a major carrier or regional carrier, and go through 5 plus weeks of unpaid training to learn the same thing over and over again. So in essence, you are out ten weeks of work, plus you are PAYING to go the first time, all for the same result, if there is one.
You'll really be shit out of your luck if you don't get hired...especially since you even admitted you don't have two years customer service experience criteria.
What you really should do to catapault yourself is to just take out student loans and go to a -real- college and major in a foreign language. French, Spanish, German, Chinese, and then send your resume off to American, Continental, etc. etc. If you want to be competitive, that is a DAMN good way of becoming so, and student loans is some of the best kind of debt you could possibly ever have.
Eternal darkness we all should dread. It's hard to party when you're dead.
STLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8466 posts, RR: 32 Reply 21, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6494 times:
Speaking of regionals, there are open interviews for American Connection in St. Louis being held in the next few weeks. I saw it listed in our local hip hop paper, the Riverfront Times. Email me and I can forward you their information if you want.
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FLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1183 posts, RR: 13 Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6466 times:
JetSOUTHEAST:
I have noticed your total disregard for the opinion of a number of people on this thread. Earlier, I posted several, very simple questions that you have totally ignored. You are in the 16-20 category in age, which tells me that you'll believe anything, as most teens do. The bottom line is: there is no direct connection between this "flight attendant school" and any possibility of being hired by any airline. In fact, I would venture to guess that many airlines may dislike these (so called) schools because the training they provide you with may be different from what the airline wants. So the airline may have to work extra to "retrain" you.
As far as getting a "college degree" (from a university), I bet you that many airlines will look for that before they look for a trade school. I wonder how many people with college degrees you will be competing against.
No one on this thread has attacked you personally. I think we all agree that a "flight attendant school" in this day and age is a questionable business. I feel comfortable saying that all of us on here are just trying to help you make a wise choice.
I am still curious to hear how much they are charging you for this "training".
FLY2LIM
Quoting STLGph (Reply 12): Sally Struthers University's specialized accounting degree program was full because enough suckers enrolled
777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2862 posts, RR: 4 Reply 24, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6413 times:
Quoting STLGph (Reply 21): Speaking of regionals, there are open interviews for American Connection in St. Louis being held in the next few weeks. I saw it listed in our local hip hop paper, the Riverfront Times. Email me and I can forward you their information if you want.
True that, I know a number of people who got hired on for Am Con. I also saw another ad in the Post the other day for an airline that was hiring F/As. The name of it escapes me right now but it wasn't a major and I didn't recognize the name. USA 3000 was hiring in STL not too long ago as well.
25 JetSOUTHEAST: www.theairlineacademy.com There is the website if anyone is interested.
26 Flyboy1980: I didn't think airlines held "flight attendant" courses with much regard, at least not here in NZ. Airlines look for people who have had at least 2 ye
27 Aloha73g: Their website says that they placed people with TWA and Piedmont....that had to be a while back when those airlines were hiring -Aloha! P.S. These kin
28 PhilSquares: JetSOUTHEAST, After you're done please let me know. I have some ocean front property in AZ I would love to sell you! What an incredible ripoff. That i
29 Jdaniel001: I don't think many airlines have high qualifications. They hired me afterall. Actually, I know some recruiters at AirTran and UA if you need a contac
30 JetSOUTHEAST: Well its already paid off, with money set aside for tuitition. I will let ya'll know how it goes.
32 Tbear815: JetSOUTHEAST, Oh, you poor child. And I do mean child. Why in the first place did you ever bring this up if you've already paid those idiots? As someo
33 Wjcandee: JetSOUTHEAST: I understand that one reason you plan to attend this school is that you believe that it will help you get in the door and also that it w
34 Wjcandee: He didn't realize that his readers would have the incredibly negative reaction that they did. I agree with you that a basic education is very importa
35 Nwajetset: I have been a flight attendant for 10 years, and through the course of those 10 years, of all the hundreds of other flight attendants i have met, NOT
36 JCS17: Dude, getting hired by a regional airline is not a very hard process. I've been on COEx flights where the flight attendant barely spoke passable Engli
37 STLGph: from The Airline Academy's Website... "The Airline Academy has contracted with the Sun N’ Surf motel to provide affordable housing in an intimate oc
38 Lincoln: Not to wander too far off topic but in my limited experience this statement is quite accurate (and I honestly can't tell if you meant this sarcastica
39 VHXLR8: EXACTLY!!!!! I may not have been a Flight Attendant for as long as Nwajetset, but I can attest to the same thing. I have NEVER worked with anyone who
40 FI642: This has to be a joke. Has to be. In my 21+ years in the aviation industry I've never heard anything so rediculous. Attitude is key here, That's what
41 Mtnmanmakalu: I agree- If Jetsoutheast is really into aviation and wants to be a Flight Attendant like he said, he would know the facts: Airlines have their own re
42 Unitedstargold: Why bother with a four-year degree, especially with debt, if one's lifelong dream is to be an F/A? Learn a foreign language through a 'trade' school
43 Stlgph: Have a solid strong back up plan in case your carrier goes belly up and then you're doubly screwed. Nothing wrong with Berlitz, but a lot of companie
44 FLY2LIM: I would disagree. I have seen a lot of heartfelt, honest advice. I, as a 40 year old (old enough to be his dad), see a kid getting duped and was tryi
45 JetSOUTHEAST: Wjcandee, Thanks for your positive replies. As some of these "old timers" may not know, the airline industry has changed since September 11th. It is h
46 JetSOUTHEAST: BTW, this course costed 80% less than a four year degree, not to say I wont pursue one in the future.
47 S12PPL: I'd stick to the four year degree if I were you, especially with words like "costed" in your vocabulary. Seriously, I'd listen to what others are say
48 JetSOUTHEAST: What was the reason she didnt get hired, and who is the "Int'l Air Academy"?
49 777STL: jetSOUTHEAST, You're still not heeding the advice people are trying to give you. You're not hearing what you want to hear so you're dismissing us as b
50 Stlgph: ! ! How exactly do you get into an airline? Again, you, yourself said you lack work experience. There is a difference between better education and pe
51 Airlinelover: jetSOUTHEAST, it has been stated before, but needs to be stated AGAIN. Airlines do NOT officially endorse these "schools". The airlines preferr to tra
52 S12PPL: Does it matter why she wasn't hired? She went to the school thinking she'd be a shoo-in for a job. She wasn't.
53 Meechy36: As a former instructor for both a regional and major airline, I found this most disturbing. The airline that hires you wants to train you in "their o
54 RIOJANEIRO: jetSOUTHEAST - As an F/A here I second what a lot of these folks have said on this board. The so called "Airline-Schools", like the International Air
55 Jeremy: Sorry you lost your money. You don't pay money to get an entry-level job!
56 FutureFO: Well I hope that you have no expectations to think that this will get you on with an airline any quicker than someone off the street. If you were to a
57 RAMPRAT980: My personal opinion, like almost 99.999999999% of everyone who has posted in this topic is that going to flight attendant school is a total waste of m
58 UAalltheway: That's awesome. Congratulations! Best wishes with fufilling your dream!
60 Highguy76: jetSOUTHEAST, I have flown for CO now for 10 years, and in that time, I have met very few co-workers who attended a school such as the one you describ
61 JAFA: jetSOUTHEAST, I agree that going to this school is a waste of money. However if its paid for, then you might as well go. It won't hurt. But if if its
62 RAMPRAT980: Maybe you should go to Flight school instead of Flight Attendant school. That would be money well spent.
63 JetSOUTHEAST: Well it is paid off, so I will go. I am not expecting to get in any quicker than anyone off the street, and I will not preach about this school in an
64 Bridogger6: I have heard of a school such as this in Portland where they train you to be airline customer service reps, flight attendants or whatever you want pre
65 JetSOUTHEAST: Interesting replies nonetheless. As far as finances go, I paid off the entire thing just recently. I will see how it goes, and post my reply. It may b
66 JetSOUTHEAST: "I have heard of a school such as this in Portland where they train you to be airline customer service reps, flight attendants or whatever you want pr
67 JetSOUTHEAST: Visit http://www.aha.edu to see the latest placement info for their students. I do not know why so many people on this site are biased towards these s
68 Flyer732: Might note, most airlines have a minimum age for an F/A of 20 years old. We had a few people that came on at AirTran in customer service at 18 - 19 an
69 Aa757first: Well that's very nice, but how many of those people would have been hired even if they didn't attend such a program? AAndrew
70 S12PPL: That has to be one of the most ignorant replies I've ever seen. You think we don't want to see you have success because we all got jobs "off the stre
71 FLY2LIM: Suppose you suffered a long term illness and you had to withdraw, can't you get a refund? If you go to a real university, you can get your money back
72 RAMPRAT980: If you go on an airlines website they will list whatever jobs they have open and instruct you on how to apply(ie: on-line, or where they will have a j
73 EmiratesA345: Having spoken with a few Air Canada flight attendants, I've been told that some airlines prefer that you don't go to these schools and don't have prev
74 JetSOUTHEAST: Thanks for all the replies. Like I said, it might be worth it or not, right now I am neutral until graduation. Yes, I am aware it is myself that will
75 146CREW: Why does anyone really care if this person goes to the Airline Academy or not. Why not just be happy that jetSOUTHEAST is excited about taking the fir
76 STLGph: Then what in the hell is the point of going? One thing I can see from what you have written in your responses thus far (besides really crappy grammar
77 Nwajetset: If it was a positive situation, we would. The OP started this post, I suppose, to solicit feedback other Flight Attendants, and people in the aviatio
78 FutureFO: JetSoutheast, As a FA I have previous airline experience in ground ops. Working my way from the ramp to being an Operations Supervisor and Duty Manage
79 IAHTowTeam: JetSouthEast......Have you tried applying for CO in EWR or COEX? They are both hiring F/A's. Also, we are hiring cargo and customer service rep.'s in
80 STLGph: I don't know about you, but I am under the impression he has not applied with anybody. It sounds like he just went to a website and after reading it,
81 AirframeAS: If I were you, JetSOUTHEAST, I would NOT do this. These so-called schools as they claim to be are just out to make an extra buck. They wont teach you
82 EZYcrew: As an ex-F/A Instructor/Recruiter for a major European low-cost airline, I can assure you this "Academy" will get you NO guarantee in finding a job. T
83 RIOJANEIRO: Taken from www.airacademy.com (International Air Academy) http://www.airacademy.com/getting_started.php "I am very pleased with what I got out of the
84 STLGph: rio- that's beautiful! i didn't make it to that part of the website.
85 JetSOUTHEAST: 146CREW, Thanks for your positive reply. This school never guranteed an interview, I stated that. Why would I listen to half the stuff on this site, i
86 Aa757first: God, you post a message on a message board. What do you expect? I have never, ever, ever, ever heard of a flight attendant with a positive reaction t
87 Type-Rated: There are some other things to consider about these types of schools. They can disappear as quickly as they turn up (Anyone remember McConnell in MSP?
88 STLGph: Well, putting you, a Wal Mart stocker in the middle of nowhere with a severe lack of education (and common sense), up against us...professionals, exc
89 Hawk44: Jet let me just say this it's great you have a goal and I hope accomplish it but what are you going to do after you finish this school and god forbid
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