JetSOUTHEAST From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5887 times:
Well I will be off to the airline academy to start my five week training course, which will help in my placement at a LCC or Regional Airline. Things change I guess, in 1997 I dreamed of working for AA as a F/A, but now I have decided to make a career at AirTran or Spirit, etc. I enjoyed the forum, I'll visit often.
JetSOUTHEAST From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5870 times:
Yeah, they will also train me upon employment. The point of the school is to help with employment, just like a college places its students. I am poorly qualified to get into the airlines, this might help.
STLGph From United States, joined Oct 2004, 7899 posts, RR: 30 Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5813 times:
Quoting JetSOUTHEAST (Reply 2): The point of the school is to help with employment, just like a college places its students. I am poorly qualified to get into the airlines, this might help.
Why are you poorly qualified? Is this a personal assessment of yourself (which will go great in an interview, or is this after you have sat down and measured your own self against criteria generally listed on an airline's website as to how they go about hiring their employees?
This school also -wants- you to believe they help with employment. Why? They want you to pay the fee to go there. After you finish, all they'll tell you is where and to whom to send your resume. They're not going to just find a job for you unless they have a great deal with Counry Bob's Scenic Air Tours in Dodge City, Kansas.
I hope you've thought about all of this before you went and signed up and dropped the deposit fee.
As mentioned earlier, most airlines give you all the training you will ever need. Hopefully you've gone to website after website sending out as many resumes or filling out as many forms as you possibly can letting them tell you you are unqualified before going off and doing something like this.
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NonRevKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5713 times:
DO NOT GIVE THEM ANY MONEY!!!
You do not need to go to school to work for Airtran or Spirit! Hahaha some of their employees barely graduated high school. Schools like this can't train you properly because they have no idea which aircraft the airline you will get on with operates. Also, each airlines policies, requirements, and services are different.
Seriously, these schools are a scam. If an airline is interested in you, you get an interview, and they will hire you and will train you themselves. Believe me, Just apply on any airlines website.
Please don't make this mistake. You will regret it when you're in FA training with people "off the street".
Quoting JetSOUTHEAST (Reply 2): I am poorly qualified to get into the airlines, this might help.
Who told you this?
Quoting JetSOUTHEAST (Reply 2): The point of the school is to help with employment, just like a college places its students
Colleges don't place students, necessarily. They prepare you to face the business world. Each airline has its own "college" that prepares you for life in that airline.
JetSOUTHEAST From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5652 times:
"is this after you have sat down and measured your own self against criteria generally listed on an airline's website as to how they go about hiring their employees?"
I used the criteria. BTW, the school has a working relationship with numerous airlines, as I have spoken to various companies who choose their graduates over people off the street. Reading the airline criteria, I do not have 2 years customer service experience. Put it this way, the school made me wait a year and a half just to get in, because it is full. After 9/11, it is harder to get in as a flight attendant, and you should be competitive. This school contracts with Delta Airlines and uses their training facilities for training, and the school teaches you basics, not specific airplanes. It is said 50% of the people who go to the airlines training courses will fail.
JetSOUTHEAST From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5619 times:
BTW, Continental Express' application has a specific section on their application with a list of various "Aviation Schools" and mine is one of them. Considering the high amount of graduates COX hires from the school, I believe they use this as a preferance over "the average joe with no experience". It's well worth the money if you get a job right away, which most graduates have gotten.
Luv2fly From United States, joined May 2003, 10726 posts, RR: 54 Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5591 times:
JetSOUTHEAST, I think this school has done a wonderful job of selling you on the school. Like others have said all airlines will train you and IMHO the one who will benefit the most from having you attend this school, is the school.... They after all will have your money.
STLGph From United States, joined Oct 2004, 7899 posts, RR: 30 Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5588 times:
Quoting JetSOUTHEAST (Reply 9): BTW, the school has a working relationship with numerous airlines, as I have spoken to various companies who choose their graduates over people off the street
A "working relationship" is pure propaganda and guarantees you nothing, especially when it comes to a trade school. It just means that people who have gone there have happened to have gone, and applied to an airline and got hired...and then went through their own training program.
It doesn't matter if the school makes you wait a year and a half because it is full. It is full because people bought into it and they went there because Sally Struthers University's specialized accounting degree program was full because enough suckers enrolled. Just because Delta Air Lines uses the facilities, that doesn't mean they are going to hire you. It means that Delta Air Lines simply rents out use of their facilities.
If you don't have two years customer experience then you don't have two years customer service experience. Even if you went to this training academy, guess what....you still don't have two years customer service experience. Get a job and get two years customer experience.
Competitive doesn't mean you have gone to a flight attendant school. Competitive means that you have the drive and desire to get the job done. Competitive means that you are trainable to fit into their system and mold, especially if you want to make this a life long career. A lot of times, employers prefer to train you themselves. That way if you get a job with Kitty Airlines, you learn the Kitty Airlines way. Ra ra ra.
Be careful when you use the word college. Don't get fooled by it. Do your homework and your research. Find out what education association is accrediting the institution and what it really does for you once you graduate.
While you are it, research the best way to get your money back. Your time would be better spent getting that customer service experience.
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JetSOUTHEAST From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5562 times:
STLgph,
Education is important, and the airlines do look at that. This school was cheaper than college, and I think it will pay off. If they airlines see I paid to further my education, I am sure they will look at that in a good light. And no, I dont expect to get into Delta, not today, not anyday. It wont be long before they have the use AirTran's facilities because Delta collapsed.
JetSOUTHEAST From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5537 times:
Oh, I have sent out numerous resumes, only to get no response whatsoever. I have filled out numerous applications, only to no avial. So getting more education IMHO is the best option. Work experience I dont believes helps as much, you don't learn as much as you would sitting in a classroom. Aside from that, there is a social advantage to this as well. With most jobs looking at employees visiting with each other as satanic, the school encourages it. Believe me, I have worked in quite a few places, you will get wrote up for even talking to other employees at times. In addition, various airlines send people to this school to INTERVIEW students, and numerous amounts have been hired before GRADUATING.
JetSOUTHEAST From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5527 times:
I dont WANT TO WORK AT MC.DONALDS. I just got some experience at h***, I mean Wal-Mart. Heck yeah I will pay to become a flight attendant. I believe in paying for my education, and using my hard earned money on that.
777STL From United States, joined Dec 2004, 2044 posts, RR: 6 Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5518 times:
Not to demean what you're doing, but it can't be that difficult to get hired on at a regional. Not difficult enough to require applicants to get some kind of training before hand. I know plenty of people who've been hired on at the regionals as F/As and their work histories/educations are far from illustrious. Basically what I am telling you is it's unnecessary to go to "college" to become a F/A.
STLGph From United States, joined Oct 2004, 7899 posts, RR: 30 Reply 20, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5502 times:
Education is a good thing, that I don't deny. But a trade school such as this I severely question. It sounds too shady, especially when you spend 5 weeks learning all of this, only to turn around, get a job with a major carrier or regional carrier, and go through 5 plus weeks of unpaid training to learn the same thing over and over again. So in essence, you are out ten weeks of work, plus you are PAYING to go the first time, all for the same result, if there is one.
You'll really be shit out of your luck if you don't get hired...especially since you even admitted you don't have two years customer service experience criteria.
What you really should do to catapault yourself is to just take out student loans and go to a -real- college and major in a foreign language. French, Spanish, German, Chinese, and then send your resume off to American, Continental, etc. etc. If you want to be competitive, that is a DAMN good way of becoming so, and student loans is some of the best kind of debt you could possibly ever have.
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STLGph From United States, joined Oct 2004, 7899 posts, RR: 30 Reply 21, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5489 times:
Speaking of regionals, there are open interviews for American Connection in St. Louis being held in the next few weeks. I saw it listed in our local hip hop paper, the Riverfront Times. Email me and I can forward you their information if you want.
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