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Ryanair - Another Cost Cutting Measure!  
User currently offlineCOIAHLGW From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 155 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8808 times:

I just stumbled upon the following article

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_obje...2dare%2dpower%2dmad-name_page.html

Can FR squeeze any *more* cost savings?  Smile Cutting mobile phone chargers in the office - that's a winner!  bigthumbsup 


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User currently offlineMika From Sweden, joined Jul 2000, 2881 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8703 times:

A Ryanair spokeswoman said: "We do not think that using a mobile phone charger in the workplace is acceptable.


"The cost may not be expensive, but every penny saved counts."



I wonder if MoL and that spokeswoman are as cheap with themselves and their families. Man those are some dull people! C'mon, have a beer, lighten up and relax. The bloody company is making huge profits already!

Someone took cost cutting a step too damn far.


User currently offlineMika From Sweden, joined Jul 2000, 2881 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8691 times:

I'm seriously considering to personally boycott this airline sometimes soon, they are just going too far with this. They seem to treat their employees like dogs!

That and i am also looking for an excuse to shell out twice the fare to fly on LH instead! 

[Edited 2005-04-22 07:43:08]

User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8675 times:

Quoting Mika (Reply 1):
but every penny saved counts."

And that is about how much they will save, a f****g penny..tightwads!


User currently offlineLehovec From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 297 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8653 times:

But this is really incredible. Employees are ones I feel sorry for. Not only they treat their FA's like shit but now this... What will be next, no seats in the planes, parachutes to save on landing fees...?!

Probably most of you know about this site but anyhow.. Check this out:
http://www.ryan-be-fair.org


User currently offlineMusapapaya From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1098 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8650 times:

This is absolutely ridiculous!

I would like to propose to our fellow members not to fly on them if possible! Fly something else, like easyjet or Germanwings!

Thank you!



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User currently offlineMika From Sweden, joined Jul 2000, 2881 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8612 times:

Easyjet are by the way 10 times a better airline than Ryanair ever was. They fly to major airports for roughly the same fares and even if there sometimes is a difference it tends to be worth it.

I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that Easy now have passed Ryanair in terms of flown passengers? I heard last week that Easyjet now is europes biggest LCC, i dont remember what the time frame was for that measurement though. Go Easy in any case!


User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8607 times:

Quoting Mika (Reply 2):
I'm seriously considering to personally boycott this airline sometimes soon, they are just going too far with this. They seem to treat their employees like dogs!

Welcome! I am already doing so!

Quoting Mika (Reply 2):
That and i am also looking for an excuse to shell out twice the fare to fly on LH instead!

The funny thing is, taking all costs (transport from the middle of nowhere etc), LH (at least FRA-LHR) often comes cheaper...


User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8602 times:

I think it will cost them more to pay the person to cut all of those phone chargers than it will save them in electricity bills. This is just absurd.


Burma's constitutional referendum options: A. Yes, B. Go to Insein Prison!
User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4696 posts, RR: 42
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8545 times:

Thankfully, there has always been a better alternative for my travel plans than flying with Ryanair. If you take all factors into account (cost and travel time of ground transportation to and from the airports, reliability in case something goes wrong, service on board and on the ground etc.) they just don't offer anything attractive except for their in-your-face cheapness (in every sense of the word).

Good to know that we have plenty of higher quality LCC in my home state with Germanwings, HLX, Air Berlin and EasyJet having hubs within less than 1 hour driving time from my hometown.

[Edited 2005-04-22 09:02:51]


Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineOlympicbis From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8519 times:

Ryanair does not deserve to be called an airline.

User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5743 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8452 times:

I'm only waiting for you-know-who to post some arguments to defend this outright stupidity.

User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8445 times:

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 11):
I'm only waiting for you-know-who to post some arguments to defend this outright stupidity.

It's alright, L410 - you can say his name (he's not V-o-l-d-e-m-o-r-t !). Come on James, let's hear the bizarre, other-worldy rationalisation for this latest FR lunacy...


User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8364 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 12):
Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 11):
I'm only waiting for you-know-who to post some arguments to defend this outright stupidity.

It's alright, L410 - you can say his name (he's not V-o-l-d-e-m-o-r-t !). Come on James, let's hear the bizarre, other-worldy rationalisation for this latest FR lunacy...

He's a student. Its before 9am on a monday morning.

Unlike us hard working taxpayers JGP, he won't be out of bed until about lunchtime - No doubt we'll hear his views sometime this afternoon  

[Edited 2005-04-22 09:59:53]


Just when I thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, it was some B*****d with a torch bringing me more work
User currently offlineLehovec From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 297 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8263 times:

Does Pe@rson work for FR (I am new so I don't know)... Because otherwise I really can't understand how somebody can defend this "airline" as he does...

User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8252 times:

Quoting Lehovec (Reply 14):
Does Pe@rson work for FR (I am new so I don't know)...

No he doesn't work (at all, on anything ! He is an idle layabout  Smile ). We suspect that he is Michael O'Leary's secret love-child.


User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4696 posts, RR: 42
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8238 times:

Lehovec, there are different kinds of "geekness" on this board, and "airline cheerleading" is just one of them. Big grin

Honestly I can't understand, how someone can identify so much with an airline if he is not working for them; after all one should always look for the best value for money when making a purchase, and not become a blind follower of a brand name.



Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8226 times:

P E @ R S O N!!!

WAKE UP from your hangover! We need your inputs!  bigthumbsup 

Maybe he was the spokeswoman referred to in the text


User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5743 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8210 times:

Quoting Lehovec (Reply 14):
Does Pe@rson work for FR (I am new so I don't know)... Because otherwise I really can't understand how somebody can defend this "airline" as he does...

Welcome, to a.net!!! We have certain members here who will defend one airline in every thread devoted to it, one politician no matter what he does or says, political party no matter how stupid their policies may be, certain religion regardless of facts, etc. You'll see.


User currently offlineFlyBeQ400 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8206 times:

The time it takes to write a memo, comment to media about it, for staff to discuss issue and lost goodwill will generate costs which far exceed the money savings. Heaven forbid they find someone making a cuppa with a kettle! FR normally shows savvy and business sense; but not on this one.

On the other hand the source is the Mirror, well known for inaccurate drivel.


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8195 times:

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 17):
We need your inputs!

No we don't ! We just enjoy a good laugh, and the opportunity to mock him mercilessly for his deranged opinions (at least I do !).


User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8183 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 20):
No we don't ! We just enjoy a good laugh, and the opportunity to mock him mercilessly for his deranged opinions (at least I do !).

I know, old man... same here...  Wink


User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8150 times:

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 21):
Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 20):
No we don't ! We just enjoy a good laugh, and the opportunity to mock him mercilessly for his deranged opinions (at least I do !).

I know, old man... same here...

Me too. That's why I'm here Big grin



Just when I thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, it was some B*****d with a torch bringing me more work
User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4696 posts, RR: 42
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8144 times:

Maybe he got stuck somewhere in the boondocks because his Ryanair flight was cancelled without rebooking and he is now desperately trying to hitch a ride back home. Big grin


Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8111 times:

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 23):
Maybe he got stuck somewhere in the boondocks because his Ryanair flight was cancelled without rebooking and he is now desperately trying to hitch a ride back home.

I rather suspect him lying drunk in the corner of his girlfriend-familiy-friends- grandmothers' house Big grin


25 Post contains images TriStar500 : Oh now I see the grand plan behind our resident Ryanair cheerleader's pro-FR actions: he'd rather accept to be abused on a Ryanair flight in order to
26 GodBless : I have been doing so for quite a while already. Too bad I cannot use Tristar's statement anymore since I moved away from the German LCC-paradise... M
27 Glidepath73 : I think it's time to check out if FR is really acting as all the standards tell, like: ICAO, FAA, EASA, Europe Union regulations. I don't know if they
28 Post contains images TriStar500 : Hey Max, you could still do what all Ryanair passengers do, i.e. drive hundreds of kilometers to some remote airfield (in your case FKB or FDH), spend
29 9A-CRO : I wonder if employees are required to cover printinvg costs of memo
30 Pe@rson : I am fully entitled to believe whatever I want to believe. The same goes for you. In my opinion, Ryanair is a phenomenally good airline. I especially
31 Post contains images TriStar500 : Fair enough. No one forces you to use a superior product instead.
32 Post contains images JGPH1A : See, I told you it would be deranged and other-worldly ! Just kidding ! You are right about the attitude towards all stakeholders being essential - so
33 Lehovec : OK, a lot of what do you think... but come on... Cutting costs is one thing and making fool out of yourself is something completely different...
34 Post contains images Pe@rson : Damn, flying KLM in June. Again. Flown BA quite a few times, not to mention DL, UL, BD........ Dear God!
35 UpperDeck79 : I'm so glad they don't fly out of HEL so I never have to use them. ;D
36 Post contains images LN-MOW : Charging of cellphone in the office .... 5p Drafting a memo to forbid it .... 50p Wasting time to enforce it ..... 50 pounds Watching Mo'L go bonkers
37 Jr : I know a bunch of people who already do. Easy jet seems like a much better option with a less uptight attitude toward the concept of "service". Ryan
38 Luv2fly : LN-MOW I was just thinking the same thing, way to funny! What is the expression, "penny wise and dollar foolish!"
39 Post contains images Cornish : Ah ha. so I see you've finally got yourself out of bed then Pe@rson. About time too, young layabout To be honest I can't fault FR's business model in
40 Mika : Pearson, Amen, you are fully entitled to your oppinion as much as anyone else here. However, when you talk about profit margin and cost cutting, there
41 Pe@rson : Concerning the treatment of passengers - FR carried over 27 million passengers last year. This figure increases annually. Of those, I would bet £100
42 TriStar500 : Sometimes I wonder, how a company manages to keep competent and motivated employees if it treats them badly... sure you will always find somebody else
43 Lehovec : Exactly, my thoughts. It is always nice to have some free publicity.
44 Pe@rson : I disagree. You should do whatever you need to do. This cost-cutting measure per se might not save a lot, but collectively (i.e. with other cost-cutt
45 Mika : Pearson, This has nothing to do with the passengers, it's the employees that are treated like vermin if the above PR release is accurate. Even then th
46 Lehovec : And what are the other two?
47 Mika : I disagree. You should do whatever you need to do. This cost-cutting measure per se might not save a lot, but collectively (i.e. with other cost-cutti
48 Post contains images Pe@rson : Well, I would first define what "bad treatment" is. If FR is operating within the law, then I see no problem. However, very few - if any - businesses
49 Lehovec : EZY cabin crew have to buy their own uniforms as well. Actually it is deducted from their salary in monthly installments but that is paying for your
50 Pe@rson : Firstly, FR are operating within the law with regards to treatment of staff. If they are not then this should be targeted. Secondly, to quote myself,
51 Mika : I don't see the problem with this. If I was to become a lawyer, I would have to buy my own suits. The same applies in a lot of jobs/careers. Differenc
52 Akjetblue : I don't think I could have said it better myself. Bravo! Welcome to my respected list!!!
53 Post contains images Mrniji : Labor being such an abundant 'resource' in Europe at the moment.. I am not surprised that FR is still doing well.. should it happen that many, many ne
54 Mika : EZY cabin crew have to buy their own uniforms as well. Actually it is deducted from their salary in monthly installments but that is paying for your u
55 L410Turbolet : Isn't that a common thing with ANY airline that negative stories are more likely to be heard than positive ones??? Your point is? What concept? The c
56 TriStar500 : Ryanair - like other aviation-related companies - is still reaping benefits from the "aviation myth", when it comes to attracting employees. The idea
57 Pe@rson : What if I were, say, a secetary? I'd have to wear a suit but I would not be on much money. The issue remains: one pays for it, one does not. It does
58 Mika : May I challenge that? He is, just because he is a minority doesnt mean that we the majority dont think he has the right to his opinion. If anything he
59 Mika : What if I were, say, a secetary? I'd have to wear a suit but I would not be on much money. The issue remains: one pays for it, one does not. It does n
60 Pe@rson : I can't be bothered to rebut your arguments as I've got work to do. It's also pointless: you won't change your views and neither will I. So continue t
61 Mrniji : Yeah, I saw this advetisement.. this brings up the question: "Are the people there for the economy or the economy for the people"? This environment o
62 Post contains images Mika : Beer opened!    Indeed it is of no use to beat this to death, we all have our different views about things and that is what enrichens this world. An
63 Post contains images TriStar500 : To continue our mutual shoulder-patting , I think this thread is one of the rare examples for an internet forum in general and a.net in specific, wher
64 A340600 : Well, FR obviously think that the less lifejackets, the more profit! On both my flights with them there was no lifejacket under mine, or half the othe
65 JGPH1A : Is that legal ? Could be they had been stolen, but still...
66 Cornish : Was it a domestic UK flight ? Surely flights over water must have them ??
67 Pe@rson : Photographic evidence is necessary re. lifejackets, otherwise it's unsubstantiated heresy. Similarly, proper evidence, for instance from an independen
68 JGPH1A : Oooh - NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition ! Pope James XXS has spoken. Unless Ryanair suddenly got beatified (which I HIGHLY doubt), slagging the
69 Pe@rson : Well, it is based in Ireland... Indeed you are correct. However, it is still unsubstantiated opinion, with no proper evidence that can callaborate th
70 Post contains images AMSSpotter : Some employers surely know how to motivate their staff! What's the next measure: bringing your own toilet paper to the office or has it been implemen
71 Post contains images Pe@rson : If you won't bow to your stepfather, Pope James XXS, then you shall cower before me (with the aid of a hot poker).
72 JGPH1A : I would point out to m'learned colleague that we have first hand eye-witness testimony to the facts. This is neither hearsay nor opinion. Making vin
73 Beany : Example - phasing out the 737-200. MOL has a good idea, "I know, lets make all the pilots pay for their type rating onto the 737-800 or we will get r
74 Post contains images Pe@rson : Then I could easily say I just saw a BA 772 crash. Wait, it's all right: I have "first hand eye-witness testimony to the facts." Makes it real, eh? I
75 Pe@rson : Then why don't they leave? A void (when it comes to pilots) can be filled quite easily. Anyhow, before people start to think that I am against excell
76 JGPH1A : So eye-witness testimony is inadmissible unless substantiated ? First I've heard of it, m'lud ! I make it with peach schnapps - mmmmmmmm !!! Serious
77 AMSSpotter : Generally, I have no problems with cutting costs but these examples seem a couple of bridges too far!
78 Post contains images Pe@rson : I did not say that. But when it deals with potentially very serious issues, the more solid evidence the better. I doubt, for instance, that an allege
79 Beany : They will have no choice but to leave if they don't pay for their new type ratings!!! Think about it - you have been working for XYZ company for 10 y
80 Pe@rson : Hence, for the 10th time, what I said: "Very few - if any - businesses treat their employees faultlessly. Indeed, there is ALWAYS room for improvemen
81 Luv2fly : Well said, it is the company retiring this fleet type not the employee.
82 Beany : I agree with that but Ryanair take the biscuit. They don't seem to be just treating their staff badly but they seem to be wanting to blackmail them a
83 Post contains images Mrniji : I kinda like this.. Pope James could really reform that church in more contempoary approaches of birth control etc
84 UNDAEROSPACE : Ive come to the conclusion that this airline will be the new Tower Air of Europe LOL
85 Post contains images WAH64D : You have got to be kidding!!!! I'll take your bet. I know lots of people (including myself) who have flown with FR and not a single one of them has a
86 Pe@rson : I have flown FR over 70 times so far and don't have anything bad to say about them than I would about any other carrier. The same goes for virtually
87 WAH64D : I've used FR from STN to Pisa twice. Both times over an hour late on the outbound leg. I have flown PIK-STN countless times and have not on any one o
88 L410Turbolet : Pe@rson, I know this thread leads nowhere since you will obviously find excuse and justification for any Ryanair's nonsense. Nevertheless, tell me one
89 Mika10021 : I can't wait to see what Easyjet will do with this.They can put a ton a commercials out there.Too bad Stelios isn't chairman of U2.It would have been
90 LTBEWR : I recall an LCC airline here in the USA called PeopleExpress. It operated from 1981 to 1987, dying for a variety of reasons as well documented in an a
91 Post contains images Diesel1 : Two things here... 1 Many of those who criticise FR do so simply because they see FR outsmarting their own national carriers, regional airlines etc..
92 Post contains images Mrniji : James, very simple: many people are ignorant, only think about their own expenses and do not have any solidarity any more. Hardcore Capitalism and In
93 Pe@rson : I would like an independent and unbiased person to review these working conditions. Until then, I will assume that no law is broken. You might say 'l
94 Scanorama : At the end of the day, it is their employees whom make the company profitable. If they don't like the company, they will reflect that on their custome
95 Gg190 : According to the BBC this morning, if every Ryanair pilot charged their phone up at the same time, it would only cost ryanair £28.40!
96 Mika : Mika10021, Welcome to my respected users list! Your name alone earns you the spot there mate. Is your real name Mika?
97 PlaneSmart : I've never flown on Ryanair, but find it hard to believe they are as bad as described, and yet they still have employees and customers. In 2001, a div
98 RightWayUp : The thing is one day, god forbid, a company like this will have a nasty accident! I do not wish this upon anybody, but if you put pressure on individu
99 Bennett123 : Perhaps he did not have a camera to hand when he found that the lifejackets were missing. I remember flying to Spain with IB on an MD87 and pointing o
100 Sllevin : I'm willing to bet this is really a way to spin trying to reduce the number of personal phone calls made at work. I mean, I am a fairly heavy cell pho
101 DBCooper : Hmmm...hate to tell you this, but when I was at a major USA airline I could not plug anything into the power outlets that was not supplied by the comp
102 Aviationfreak : According to the article the staff have to pay for their own uniforms? I work for Menzies Aviation Group, a Scottish company, and they too are always
103 N754PR : I think many of us on this forum have lost all respect for this carrier and their boss. These stupid cost cutting things are just insane. Are Ryanair
104 Jafa39 : I had a relative believed he was Napoleon, he was entitled to believe that but it didn't alter the fact that he was completely insane.
105 Irishjohn : Pe@rson Thanks for keeping some level of accuracy and honesty on this thread! Never fails to amuse me the amount of 'crap' that is turned-over on Ryan
106 Jwenting : True. And in the UK similar things are common. UK safety regulations require all equipment used in offices to be tested and approved under strict sta
107 GlobeTrekker : At KLM (out-station) we indeed get 2 full set of uniforms and a new set every year after that, except ofcourse if you promoted and earned stripes. Th
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