CIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2511 posts, RR: 2 Posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4516 times:
I did a search on this but did not find anything, but I think back in the early to mid 90's I seem to remember that Northwest had a large focus or some type of hub operation at BOS with a number of Europe flights and also Northwest Airlink commuter flights. Anyone have more details about how large the operation was, and why it was ended? Thanks in advance...
Commavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 13189 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4508 times:
As of 1987 (or thereabouts) NW flew nonstop from BOS to GLA, SNN, LGW and FRA, in addition to the obiligatory MSP/MEM/DTW. I seem to recall that at another time (maybe early 90s) they had nonstops to several Scandinavian destinations (ARN, CPH), but I am not sure about those.
I'm pretty sure that the mini-hub was gone by 1994-95 though, probably a victim to transatlantic staging (smaller planes flying on thinner routes and bypassing traditional East Coast gateways) and the build-up of DTW.
Iowa744fan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 931 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4436 times:
IIRC, up into the early 1990s, NW flew from BOS to each of their European gateways, which at the time were: GLA, LGW, CDG, AMS, and FRA. I am nearly certain that I remember them flying D10s on these routes, although something in my mind says maybe an occasional 747 for LGW. However, I am not very certain about the latter one.
As for domestic operations, they of course had the flights to the main hubs at MSP, DTW, and MEM. For a while, NW also operated trans-con flights to/from BOS from LAX and SEA (maybe SFO, but again, not too certain) that connected with their European ops. I believe that they also operated quite a few flights down to DCA for a while when their DCA ops were also larger. Wasn't NW at one point possibly linked to buying one of the two shuttles at some point? I am sorry, but I forget the details. As for commuter operations, they used Business Express (who worked closer to and operated the flights in the colors of Delta) as a local feeder.
I took one of these from BOS to JFK in December of 1992, right after a big blizzard. Nasty little plane, bumping along in the clouds the whole way. The flight was timed to connect to NW17, the JFK-NRT nonstop...as I recall, most of my fellow passengers were Japanese. I'm not sure which other routes they operated, but I definitely recall that they operated BOS-PHL as well.
Northeast Express later used Dash 8s from BOS to both LGA and JFK:
I actually had a ticket for this flight at one point, but had to cancel, which I regretted later because (a) there hasn't been any scheduled service at FRG since, and (b) I never did get to fly on a 228!
As Commavia mentioned above, I think all of these Airlink services were discontinued by the mid 90s.
Iowa744Fan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 931 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4007 times:
When did NW start operating the BOS-AMS flight? Did KLM operate it at the beginning of the 1990s? Thanks for giving the confirmation about SFO. I thought that they did, but I couldn't remember for sure. I forgot about the ORD flight. Wasn't this an extension (same flight number, different aircraft) as the ORD-NRT flight? Or am I really imagining things this time? Trump...yep...I knew that they had set up to buy one of them, but I couldn't quite remember for sure. Thanks. Take care.
Kahala777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3920 times:
Quoting Iowa744Fan (Reply 11): When did NW start operating the BOS-AMS flight? Did KLM operate it at the beginning of the 1990s?
Northwest Airlines has been operating BOS-AMS for a good 15 years or so. I can remember the fleet of 747's and DC-10's at Logan about 200pm.
KLM operated BWI-AMS, BOS-AMS, ATL-AMS way before the time of the codeshare with Northwest Airlines. If I am not mistaken all of the above destinations were serviced with the 747-200SUD? In addition, wasnt Orlando also a KLM destination until the early 1990's?
ORD From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1398 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3824 times:
Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 3): NW jumped in at BOS with flights to Europe a little after Braniff one shut down in the early 80's.
NW's flights from BOS-Europe had nothing to do with Braniff or its shutdown. NW began flying from BOS to Europe right around the same time as Braniff (1979-80). NW mostly flew to the Scandinavian countries, while Braniff flew to Amsterdam, Brussels, Frankfurt and Paris. By the time Braniff shut down in May 1982, NW had already been flying BOS-Europe for two-three years.
Isitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 22
Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3546 times:
ORD.....Here's what I found. In January of 84, after BN was shut down, NW had only two departures from BOS, both 747's. One went to Gatwick and the other to Shannon Ireland with a continuing to Glascow.
I checked late 1977 and no NW across the pond. I am looking for a NW 80 schedule in my collection.
I know BN flew BOSTON-Europe in 1980 because my wife and her family flew BN from DTW to BOS and on to Frankfort.
ALSO I thought Pan Am flew out of Boston to Europe BUT I found the first Pan AM-National combined sched and Pan Am did NOT fly international from Boston IN 1980. I know they did in the 60's and part of the 70's.
If two people agree on EVERYTHING, then one isn't necessary.
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 60
Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3531 times:
Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 20): ALSO I thought Pan Am flew out of Boston to Europe BUT I found the first Pan AM-National combined sched and Pan Am did NOT fly international from Boston IN 1980. I know they did in the 60's and part of the 70's.
Pan Am had at least these international routes ex-BOS in 1969:
ORD From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1398 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3518 times:
Here is some info I was able to gather:
Northwest was awarded new European service in December 1977. That included flights from nine U.S cities (Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles, Minneapolis, Chicago, Detroit, Washington, New York and Boston) to Glasgow, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland and Iceland.
Obviously all those cities/countries were not served. A newspaper article I have dated June 9, 1980 mentions Northwest at the time flying (there are other transatlantic services not mentioned):
JFK-Shannon, continuing to Prestwick (3x weekly)
BOS-Shannon, continuing to Prestwick (3x weekly)
And a Northwest press release dated February 22, 1980 mentions new passenger transatlantic service begun in early 1979 to Copenhagen, Stockholm and Glasgow.
Zrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3478 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3485 times:
NW used to fly out of Terminal B in BOS. I remember seeing the two 747's squeezed in there for the flights to LGW and SNN. When they announced the new BOS hub in 1985, they moved to Terminal E so they could take advantage of the international terminal.
Mind you, at the time, NW and TW were the two US carriers with transatlantic service from BOS. TWA served LHR and CDG (and seasonally FCO) at the time.
When NW moved to E, they swapped space with Continental, New York Air, and Pan Am.
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