ContnlEliteCMH From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1436 posts, RR: 50 Posted (8 years 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2214 times:
Since CO eliminated CO2300 on Sunday nights, I'm relegated to the DL codeshare from CLE to ATL. Last night was my first flight on a 737-200. It was a wonderful experience, and quieter than I figured it would be.
The plane just has an airy feeling to it, since the overhead bins are small, and the only thing between FC and the L1 door is a "bulkhead." I think I'll enjoy that flight many more times.
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OttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2004 times:
It is a nice flight, isn't it?
I would recommend sitting in the exit row above the wing so that upon landing you can watch those clamshell thrust reversers in action. Its not too often you see those around anymore.
DeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 19 Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1965 times:
Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 2): I thought part of the code share was the fact that the airlines could not code share on flights that operate solely between there respected hubs?
Being he is coming out of CMH he is ticketed CMH-ATL and CMH is not a DL hub.
Go to row 25 and you will experience a completely different flight. DL Express used to issue their flight attendants ear plugs who had to sit in the two rear jumpseats.
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IslipWN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1951 times:
Quite? Yeah right! Try sitting in the last row! I always had seats in the first few rows until one time I booked last minute during Easter, ISP-FLL, and had the last row. It was SO loud.
ContnlEliteCMH From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1436 posts, RR: 50 Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1936 times:
I walked to the aft lav. It was considerably noisier, but I didn't think it was oppressive. Of course, this was using cruise power, and not TO or climb. Forward of the engine inlet, I'm not sure the -200 is much noiser than it's CFM-shod cousins.
I was amused at the thrust reduction just after takeoff -- obviously for noise reduction. Like the clamshells, you don't see that too often anymore, at least not on the routes I fly. Heck, on the ERJ, you could firewall the throttles and not bother anybody.
Is the -200's fueling connection different than the -300 and up? The flight was delayed for an hour as we awaited a *qualified* refueler. One showed up after about 30 minutes, but the pilots told him to leave since he wasn't qualified. Personally, I'm thankful for the delay, because my flight from CMH to CLE was delayed by 75 minutes, and that was the last flight of the day to ATL. I probably would have asked to be sent back to CMH, and start the route over the next morning, but I don't know if CO would have acceded to that wish.
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ContnlEliteCMH From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1436 posts, RR: 50 Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1925 times:
Actually, I have ticketed this route at least one more time, so I know I will get the pleasure again. Does anybody know if I qualify for an upgrade since this is a CO codeshare?
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DeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 19 Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1900 times:
Quoting ContnlEliteCMH (Reply 8): Does anybody know if I qualify for an upgrade since this is a CO codeshare?
The airlines are not reciprocating upgrades by each other's elites. You only get the CO miles and the other benefits.
Quoting ContnlEliteCMH (Reply 7): Is the -200's fueling connection different than the -300 and up? The flight was delayed for an hour as we awaited a *qualified* refueler.
A fueler is required to be certified on each aircraft, although the differences are minor and the candidate would likely be certified at the same time for each 737. DL also requires ground contracts to be certified by DL. So just cause you can fuel CO doesn't mean you can fuel DL. This is usually where you would see an unqualified fueler.
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ContnlEliteCMH From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1436 posts, RR: 50 Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1882 times:
Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 9): The airlines are not reciprocating upgrades by each other's elites. You only get the CO miles and the other benefits.
You mean, DL and its partners are not reciprocating. Because CO and NW not only reciprocate, but I am upgrade eligible on *any* NW flight because of my OnePass status.
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Right when I said each other's I meant DL/CO and DL/NW. CO on DL and DL on CO, etc. It is likely because of the differences in achieving the status. DL has far more elite and/or medallions than the other two airlines. I am sure some day it will happen, but as of now the % of opportunities for a NW/CO elite on a DL domestic flight are minimal. I know where I work Gold Medallions are fortunate to get their free upgrades.
I think only AM/DL codeshare flights offer reciprocating upgrades.
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USAF757300 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1816 times:
awsome isnt it?
I flew HP LAS-PHX a couple months before they retired the -200s, and I sat in the last row. It was one of my favorite flights ive ever been on. It was very loud and watching those reversers in action was really neat to. Its a bummer they are almost all gone isnt it?
GQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1800 times:
Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 9): A fueler is required to be certified on each aircraft, although the differences are minor and the candidate would likely be certified at the same time for each 737. DL also requires ground contracts to be certified by DL. So just cause you can fuel CO doesn't mean you can fuel DL. This is usually where you would see an unqualified fueler.
Odd. The FBO at my airport can fuel 4 different types of planes operated by 4 different airlines. Asked one of them once if he had any schooling or training or whatnot. Was told that he just rode along and helped out with the fueling operations for a couple of weeks, then he was left to himself. Of course, this is Helena, Montana we're talking about here...
DeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 19 Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1771 times:
Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 13): Was told that he just rode along and helped out with the fueling operations for a couple of weeks, then he was left to himself. Of course, this is Helena, Montana we're talking about here...
I didn't say there was much involved in becoming certified. However if your name isn't on "the list" you can't do it.
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TWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3048 posts, RR: 4 Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1772 times:
I agree with you the 732 feels very big inside compared to newer 737s... thats why i always loved flying on them. latest flights were ORD-CVG and CVG-ORD, not very long. And i remember doing a Delta Express IAD-MCO flight. That was fun too
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NWOrientDC10 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1389 posts, RR: 4 Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1613 times:
Quoting ContnlEliteCMH (Reply 7): Is the -200's fueling connection different than the -300 and up? The flight was delayed for an hour as we awaited a *qualified* refueler. One showed up after about 30 minutes, but the pilots told him to leave since he wasn't qualified.
I do not remember having to be qualified to simply put fuel in DL jets. Fueling a jet with an "in-op" fuel guage requires a class given by DL at ATL. Maybe the 'plane had an "in-op" fuel gauge which means the gauge isn't working.
I worked at BNA for ASIG in 2000 and had to refuel a DL Express 737-200. The fuel gauge suddenly went dead and I had to call my supervisor (who was "in-op" qualified) to take over. Meanwhile the capt. exited the a/c and, in a very irrate voice, wanted to know why there was a delay. I explained why and by that time, my boss arrived and completed the fueling. (In retrospect, I can understand the capt's anger. I'm guessing that Express flights are under a severe time constraint). The pilot did, in his own way, apologize to me when I handed him his copy of the fuel slip. I guess he was resigned to being late .
While 737-200's are classics (I love classics), they were a pain to refuel. The wings sit high off the ground; I had to stand on a plastic container and reach high just to get to the fueling spot (those fuel nozzles can be quite heavy). Also, any 737-200 which sat overnight had to have both wings sumped (to remove water) before being refueled . I did like the engine sound/noise-music to my ears .
If anyone knows, do the later 737 types (-300's and above) have "high wings" which have to be sumped?
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 11957 posts, RR: 51 Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1597 times:
Quoting ContnlEliteCMH (Thread starter): Since CO eliminated CO2300 on Sunday nights, I'm relegated to the DL codeshare from CLE to ATL
Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 4): Being he is coming out of CMH he is ticketed CMH-ATL and CMH is not a DL hub.
If I am reading this wrong he mentions flying from CLE to ATL! CLE being the CO hub and of course ATL being the DL hub, so that is flying between two hubs and not allowed per the code share, i.e. strictly flying between two carriers hubs.
ContnlEliteCMH From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1436 posts, RR: 50 Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1596 times:
Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 17): If I am reading this wrong he mentions flying from CLE to ATL! CLE being the CO hub and of course ATL being the DL hub, so that is flying between two hubs and not allowed per the code share, i.e. strictly flying between two carriers hubs.
Well, that's just because that's the flight I was mentioning. As the username indicates, I live in Columbus. I am indeed ticketed from CMH to ATL.
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SW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6072 posts, RR: 10 Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1565 times:
I believe I am ticketed on a Delta 737-200 from MCI to ATL in November...I'm excited, I haven't been on one since I flew a WN 732 about...oh...10 years ago from MDW - STL
ALB2ATL From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 88 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1521 times:
I really hated the idea of flying on the 732, but after a few trips on them, I fell in love w/ them! I am scheduled on a DL 732 May 7 CVG-ALB. Would love to get pics of the thrust reversers "in action."
FlightLover From Moldova, joined Mar 2004, 338 posts, RR: 10 Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1512 times:
It's one of those things that I am constantly telling myself I should definetely do and hopefully it will happen one day, in the nearest future, while these birds are still flying around.
ContnlEliteCMH From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1436 posts, RR: 50 Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1502 times:
Here's an interesting question:
I have read on this very site that the -200's engines are actually better suited for very short hops, a la Aloha. Does anybody know why this might be true?
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DeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 19 Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1503 times:
Quoting NWOrientDC10 (Reply 16): I do not remember having to be qualified to simply put fuel in DL jets
Qualification was simply having your name on a piece of paper. If your name wasn't there you couldn't fuel.
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NCLairport From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 240 posts, RR: 2 Reply 25, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1446 times:
im flying on a 737-200 tommorow with Ryanair. Im dreading it. I just dont like those old jets!!! Im seriously hoping that because its leading up to the bank holiday Ryanair will sub the old baby for a -800 dreamliner!
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