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Air India Board Meeting 26 April  
User currently offlineUAL747-600 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 582 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5576 times:

Is the purpose of this board meeting to approve a new aircraft order and if so, when will it be announced? Anybody know?

UAL747-600

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User currently offlineDalecary From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5522 times:

Yes, I think so, and apparently it is another victory for Boeing with a 787/772LR/773ER order.

User currently offlineAseem From India, joined Feb 2005, 2046 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5496 times:

oh my!! I suspect whole of AI order to go in favour of Boeing. Airbus must be ready for fits!!
rgds
Aseem



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User currently offlineAtmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 37
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5481 times:

Quoting Aseem (Reply 2):
oh my!! I suspect whole of AI order to go in favour of Boeing. Airbus must be ready for fits!!
rgds
Aseem

Oh they got the IA order. Do they think they are going to get everything?
Anyway, it's not for a lack of effort:

http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=88975

Intense lobbying is on by the two aircraft makers - Boeing and Airbus - to grab a bigger share of the aircraft orders from state carrier Air-India. After US transportation secretary Norman Mineta’s visit to India recently, it is the turn of visiting French minister for intrastructure, transport and tourism, Mr Gilles de Robien to hard-sell the next-generation Airbus aircraft to Air-India.



"Airbus is the best aircraft in the world and whatever model Indian Airlines or Air-India decide to go in for, it would be good for them. We hope both the carriers would go in for Airbus aircraft," the French minister told FE. "We are not putting any pressure on the Indian government because Airbus is known for its safety, quality and reliability. I hope these factors would tilt the deal in Airbus’ favour."



ConcordeBoy is a twin supremacist!! He supports quadicide!!
User currently offlineAseem From India, joined Feb 2005, 2046 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5424 times:

read the other thread..Airbus now threatens IC to take it or leave it..
rgds
Aseem



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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11640 posts, RR: 61
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5402 times:

If Air India does in fact decide to award its order, worth several billion, to Boeing, this will have been quite a bad week for Airbus. Personally, I think that a 777/787 combo for Air India is the right choice for the same reason it was the right choice for Air Canada. It gaves AI the flexibility of rock-bottom operating costs and unparalleled range, two things that will definitely come in handy with a burgeoning Indian air travel market in the next 5-10 years.

User currently offlineAseem From India, joined Feb 2005, 2046 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5392 times:

lobbying apart, it does make sense for AI to go for Boeing.
rgds
Aseem



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5292 times:

Quoting Dalecary (Reply 1):
Yes, I think so, and apparently it is another victory for Boeing with a 787/772LR/773ER order.

This one is still up in the air (no pun intended)....though I was a little surprised by the big Boeing AC order, I wouldn't be surprised if AI for some reason goes for Airbus frames.......hmmm.........."four engines for long haul"...hahaha!!



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineCruiser From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1001 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5280 times:

I thought that Boeing basically had the order, and that the AI board just had to approve the decision which is more of a formality. I sometimes think wrong though!

Cruiser



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User currently offlineBoeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5278 times:

"Airbus is the best aircraft in the world and whatever model Indian Airlines or Air-India decide to go in for, it would be good for them. We hope both the carriers would go in for Airbus aircraft," the French minister told FE. "We are not putting any pressure on the Indian government because Airbus is known for its safety, quality and reliability. I hope these factors would tilt the deal in Airbus’ favour."

Okay junior. Next....


User currently offlineMrNiji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5176 times:

Quoting Aseem (Reply 4):
read the other thread..Airbus now threatens IC to take it or leave it..

Airbus should not threat IC.. While I prefer the short-haul airbusses over the 73NG (especially jkeeping in mind ICs present 320 fleet), this is no way of making business..

Edit2; Sorry, have to say: this is no way by the stupid GOI of harassing Airbus like this.. These lazy people should clear that thing, so we have peace now. Airbus is somehow right

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 7):
.........."four engines for long haul"...hahaha!!

You tend to be very, very childish sometimes. And don't be surprised if no one takes you seriously any more if you continue going like this (at least I don't take you seriously). May I remind you taht you are questioning the 747, too?  



Edit: Does anyone know what time the meeting will take place/be conclused? Will follow up the news according;y.

[Edited 2005-04-26 06:37:52]

[Edited 2005-04-26 06:39:33]

User currently offlineCOUGARRIDES From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day ago) and read 5168 times:

This Board meeting is only a formality to rubberstamp a decision already taken by that corrupt Prafull Patel.

Meanwhile in stark contrast to the spineless AI management, IC pilots and sections of the management have openly come out speaking out against Patels instructions to IC to lease 15 year old 767's instead of the A330's offered by Airbus.


User currently offlineAirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day ago) and read 5092 times:

Quoting COUGARRIDES (Reply 11):
corrupt Prafull Patel

good old roy, welcome back...


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 23 hours ago) and read 5034 times:

So We'll know by Today  Smile
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 22 hours ago) and read 5014 times:

Quoting COUGARRIDES (Reply 11):
Meanwhile in stark contrast to the spineless AI management, IC pilots and sections of the management have openly come out speaking out against Patels instructions to IC to lease 15 year old 767's instead of the A330's offered by Airbus.

Roy, could you give some more details on that.. interesting...


User currently offlineCOUGARRIDES From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 21 hours ago) and read 5004 times:

First heard of it from a couple of friends working with the carrier. There was also an article on Friday/Saturday in the Economic Times.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1086525.cms

also check out this link:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1068769.cms

Prafull PAtel and his cheapo tactics!


User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 21 hours ago) and read 4925 times:

Thx.. I am just afriad that something bad might happen - not good to read that.. btw, just curious: does PP have a long future as minister? And why the heck go for 737s when 320s are in the fleet and everything has been decided.?

Boeing claims tb out of government interference.. but it isn't


User currently offlineHimmat01 From India, joined Dec 2004, 1047 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 20 hours ago) and read 4901 times:

What's the update on AI board meeting? Have they decided on the B777s and B787s?

I really hope that IC does not go in for leasing old B767s. A330 would be more suitable for them considering the fact that the cockpit layout is similar to that of an A320. It would take 2 weeks for a pilot to convert from an A320 to an A330.

Himmat



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User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 19 hours ago) and read 4833 times:

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 9):
"Airbus is the best aircraft in the world and whatever model Indian Airlines or Air-India decide to go in for, it would be good for them. We hope both the carriers would go in for Airbus aircraft," the French minister told FE. "We are not putting any pressure on the Indian government because Airbus is known for its safety, quality and reliability. I hope these factors would tilt the deal in Airbus’ favour."

What a crap. That guy hurts Airbus more than he helps...  tired 

Quoting MrNiji (Reply 10):
You tend to be very, very childish sometimes. And don't be surprised if no one takes you seriously any more if you continue going like this (at least I don't take you seriously). May I remind you taht you are questioning the 747, too?

He usually only refers to Airbus when he talks negatively about four haulers, but we are used to it.  zzz   zzz   zzz 


Regards
Udo


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 19 hours ago) and read 4797 times:

Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 17):
I really hope that IC does not go in for leasing old B767s.

If they did,I wonder what the reason for doing so would be....  

Its almost 1800 hrs........Whats the outcome of the meet....Sean.
regds
MEL

[Edited 2005-04-26 14:26:49]


Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineSshank From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 18 hours ago) and read 4689 times:

Reuters is reporting that the board just approved the Boeing Deal. Great news!

User currently offlineHZ747300 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2004, 1677 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 18 hours ago) and read 4680 times:
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Quoting Sshank (Reply 20):
Reuters is reporting that the board just approved the Boeing Deal. Great news!

Dow Jones is now reporting the same thing...

BOMBAY, April 26 (Reuters) - India's state-run international
carrier, Air-India, approved on Tuesday the purchase of up to 50
long-range and medium-range Boeing BA aircrafts at a cost of
about 300 billion rupees ($6.9 billion).



Keep on truckin'...
User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5762 posts, RR: 47
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 17 hours ago) and read 4644 times:

Any links. Also what is the process after this board approval. There must more committees and evaluations to go through before the final contract is signed? Where are they (AI) know in terms of the process and how much longer (in years please) will it take until we actually see an airplane in AI colors?


That which does not kill me makes me stronger.
User currently offlineAirish From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 259 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 17 hours ago) and read 4601 times:

Here is a link:

http://www.zeenews.com/znnew/index.html

More detailed links will probably come later on.



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5762 posts, RR: 47
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 17 hours ago) and read 4586 times:

Here's a link to a reformatted press release by AI found on Bloomberg:

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news...=conews&tkr=BA:US&sid=a9yx6XcH59Cw



That which does not kill me makes me stronger.
25 Leelaw : WSJ 04/26/05: "India's state-owned carrier, Air India, said it will buy 50 new planes valued at $6 billion from Boeing Co., giving the U.S. plane make
26 Dalecary : 8 772LR, 15 773ER and 27 787 according to later reports. Don't know if this is all firm or a mix of firm/options.
27 B747-437B : The board has approved the acquisition of 8 Boeing 777-200LR, 15 Boeing 777-300ER and 27 Boeing 787-800. This is in addition to the 18 Boeing 737-800s
28 Post contains links Dalecary : http://yahoo.reuters.com/financeQuot...05-04-26_13-56-22_bom199114_newsml
29 Post contains links Airish : AI board also improve principle an initial public offering by the airline subject to government clearance. http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/article
30 HAWK21M : Whats the Next step Sean. regds MEL
31 Post contains images Mrniji : Mama Mia!
32 Himmat01 : I feel like doing an impromptu 'bhangra'. These is the best news I have heard for a very long time. 'chuk de phatte'
33 Leelaw : Kindly translate these terms for me. Thanx in advance.
34 Post contains images Himmat01 : 'Bhangra' is a traditional Indian dance. 'chuk de phatte' literally translated it would mean, that i am very excited about this news. [Edited 2005-04
35 Post contains images Mrniji : Sorry, but if you don't know what Bhangra is, it seems that you have wasted far too much time on a.net rather than opening your eyes what is going on
36 Aseem : IMHO!! not the most appropriate reply. rgds Aseem
37 Aseem : now lets start discussing livery change for these new birds rgds Aseem
38 B752fanatic : Looks to me that Airbus will be flying their A380 in a very depressive way. Anybody thinks that Airbus will arrange a huge party tomorrow after the A3
39 Post contains images 22right : And there you have it folks! A few desperately needed wins for Boeing, and the death tolls start ringing for Airbus and the A380.
40 PANAM_DC10 : Let's hope it get's approved! Another boost for the 772LR and the 773ER orders since EIS have gained good momentum too. 777 & 787 combination is work
41 Aa777jr : WOW! Very glad to see Boeing doing so well in 2005! Awesome!
42 Post contains links FlyBeQ400 : Yep, its a done deal. Those 787 are selling like hotcakes!!! BBC News post http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4486327.stm
43 Shawnnyc : Does anyone know how many daily flights could AI opperate nonstop between India and US/Canada with 8 777-200LR's? Also would it make sense to use the
44 Post contains images DIJKKIJK : That BBC article mentions Air India's existing fleet consists solely of Boeings How daft! Even the BBC gets it wrong sometimes, eh!
45 Aseem : off-course DEL/BOM-SYD/AKL/GRU rgds Aseem
46 TPASXM787 : Wow...the orders continue to roll in for Boeing. The folks at Airbus must be having a fit, as thigs are really swinging away from them so far this yea
47 Bronko : I'm hungry for some saag, mango chicken, and naan all the sudden!
48 The777Man : The size of this order is amazing; AI is basically replacing their whole fleet with this one order! AI currently have about 40 aicraft and with firm o
49 Mrniji : They are not only replacing but extending it.. 744s have some more years Don't forget that around 50 % of a/c are leased
50 Karan69 : Exactly their original fleet comprimises only of 6 B744 and 12/13 A310s and 2 743 classics, off the remaining B744s 3 are Korean birds,2 SQ,1 AC. Mos
51 Mrniji : Agreed, Karan, but the 787-3 version would be better for that, as the 8/9 are very suoitable for long hauls. Too bad the A300s are gone.. they were t
52 HAWK21M : I hope AI starts Recruiting.I would like to work on the B787s def one day. regds MEL
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