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Mexicana To Get The Airbus 340-500  
User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5219 posts, RR: 51
Posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 22598 times:

As always there's no official information from our airlines, similar to AM B777's/or the second batch for new B737s (which was announced way off late).... and many more.

Anyway, I read in another mexican forum that some hours ago a user listened on the radio an interview with MX people confirming the arrival of 2 A330-200s to the airline later this year and 2 A340-500 in 2006 for China, Japan and Thailand!

They also confirmed the arrival of additional A318/319/320s for the next months.

Something I also read in an article this day, there's no direct link so I'm pasting a little extract from the article:

.....Es actualmente una de las aerolineas mas importantes de la region, y esta dicho que para el 2006, Mexicana iniciará operaciones a Asia, especificamente China, Japon, y Tailandia, con aviones Airbus A340-500.....

As some people have told APM Group, A340's will be introduced sometime near June and July of 2006.

What else can I say! Finally what we were all in Mexico expecting for years from our airlines is becoming a reality! About time! Hurray!   

Ricardo APM!

[Edited 2005-04-26 06:20:52]


Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
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User currently offlineJoseMEX From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 1539 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 22573 times:

Any idea where the 345's will come from?

User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 22563 times:

Hey Ghost  wave 

At least some good news for Airbus today. It was looking like disaster for Airbus today with AC ordering the T7's and many other people saying that NW and KE were also going to order the 787 over the A350. Wow~ will this service be direct? If then, JL is getting some competition because their service right now is routed through YVR, but the airline does not have the equipment to open a direct service? Or with payload restrictions, can a 744 make it? Eitherway, glad for Airbus and MX.



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User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5219 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 22507 times:

Quoting JoseMEX (Reply 1):
Any idea where the 345's will come from?

I hope that at least MX gets new A345s. Perhaps another possibility is getting them from SQ or AC.

**
Hi Ktachiya,

Technically there are aircrafts with enough range to fly MEX-Asia non-stop and viceversa but Boeing and Airbus never consider on their rings of range maps other factors such as MEX's high airport elevation, temperature, etc!

Therefore MX will also be forced to make a stop. They are studying the possibility of flying from MEX via SJD (Los Cabos) or TIJ-Asia. I don't know how this will affect JL flights. At least there will now be more competition with LAX!

Ricardo APM



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User currently offlineMark_D. From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 1447 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 22450 times:

Good for Mexicana --more direct service to far-away places and no U.S. transit-visa overhead either, of course. I hope they're getting a good deal on 'em too.

User currently offlineSean-SAN- From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 769 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 22336 times:

Who really flies from Mexico to Thailand? Unless they're hoping to get alot of east coast US based traffic..

User currently offlineMTYFREAK From Mexico, joined Apr 2004, 377 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 22310 times:

Excellent!!!

It was about time,

Is MX going to have a real first class now?

Or is it going to be same old "Clase Ejecutiva" all the way to Asia?

I think JL has the advantage there unless MX does something about it.


Konishiwa



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User currently offlineBrons2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3013 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 22301 times:

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 3):
Technically there are aircrafts with enough range to fly MEX-Asia non-stop and viceversa but Boeing and Airbus never consider on their rings of range maps other factors such as MEX's high airport elevation, temperature, etc!

Therefore MX will also be forced to make a stop. They are studying the possibility of flying from MEX via SJD (Los Cabos) or TIJ-Asia. I don't know how this will affect JL flights. At least there will now be more competition with LAX!

MEX-NRT is only about 6100nm!

I can certainly appreciate the hot n high conditions at MEX. But you're telling me that an A345 can't make even _that_ distance? According to the published specs on airbus.com, that would be 2900nm under the plane's max range.



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User currently offlineTrevd From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 22220 times:

Think ghost77 has this right...

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 3):
I hope that at least MX gets new A345s. Perhaps another possibility is getting them from SQ or AC.

Expect many of the lessor owner A345 will be coming out of Air Canada (and SQ too!!) as most as they transition to the 772LR and 787's.


User currently offlineMike1974 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 21909 times:

Awesome news for MX!!! Finally both AM and MX will have widebodies! Just a question about the routes to Asia; anyone know if any Asian carriers will introduce service to MEX? Airlines like Cathay, Air China, China Airlines, China Southern, etc. have the metal to start service to the mexican capital and i know some of them have been debating for a while to give the go for such route. I think the market is there to start 2 weekly flights or even more. Wouldnt mind seeing more international airlines servicing MEX (especially from Asia)either. But again, congrats to MX

Also, anyone have any idea how many weekly flights MX will have to such destinations? 2x weekly flights sounds feasible.

[Edited 2005-04-26 13:08:06]

[Edited 2005-04-26 13:08:48]

User currently offlineGalapagapop From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 910 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 21854 times:

I'm sure the A345's come from AC as AC recieves their first 3 777's on 2006. Now whether their LR, I'm not sure.

User currently offlineLatinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2717 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 21449 times:

Quoting Sean-SAN- (Reply 5):

I'm not sure that there's enough traffic to warrant the route, but it is my understanding-- without supporting evidence --that among the upper middle income Mexicans, Thailand is a very popular destination. Don't know if there's enough traffic though; even out of LAX, where there's a sizeable Thai community; Thai Airways has a difficult time filling up their 744s to BKK. Realistically speaking, China and Japan are more promising.



I don't want to get carried away, as we know very well with Mexican aviation, its a very wishy-washy affair, but this certainly puts a grin on my face, let's hope it does come true. veryhappy   thumbsup 


 Smile LatinPlane


User currently offlineCruiser From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1001 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 21412 times:

It would be (yet another) blow to Airbus if they bought the A345's off of AC.


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User currently offlinePANAM_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4146 posts, RR: 90
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 21277 times:
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Quoting Ghost77 (Thread starter):
As always there's no official information from our airlines, similar to AM B777's/or the second batch for new B737s (which was announced way off late).... and many more

As you mention, no official information, which is why I rely on your posts to keep me updated, thank you  Smile A question if I may, even if OT, which batch of 737s are the second?

Thanks and Regards

PANAM DC10



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User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4748 posts, RR: 45
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 21265 times:

bet they're from Air Canada as they put the Airbii widebodies out to pasture...


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User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2447 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 21265 times:

What is Mexicana trying to do? Self destruct!!! Ohh, wait, they have been doing that for years. Thinking of getting a couple of A340’s will only hurt its cost structure, since they have not developed any market that could support that airplane.

The facts are: CINTRA holds a monopoly of the Mexican skies and it has not made a profit in the last 4 years… The only good (financial) news in those 4 years has been the money paid back to AM and MX by SENEAM thanks to an “Amparo” which made their financial statement look "not that bad". AM and MX are still operating in red numbers, facing tough competition and losing market share.

I can see the requirement for the A330 to operate the MEX-EZE route and maybe a new route, but the A340-500??? Even the A340 will be too much for MX. This happens when you give the management of an airline to our beloved government… I can picture them saying: “lets get new airplanes and start flying intercontinental, that might increase the market value of our airline”.

Mexicana needs to concentrate in its strongest market (Mexico – USA) and start developing new markets (Mexico – South and Central America or Mexico - Canada) with the resources they have (airplanes in its current fleet) and by not jeopardizing tons of money in those ventures. That will allow them to pull from the market if it is not profitable (take the MDW venture for example).

Hope the A340-500 never materialize...


User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 21201 times:

I would say that the A340-500s are just coming out of Air Canada. They have two A340-500s and are retiring them from their fleet soon for the arrival of their new 777s.

Singapore Airlines hasn't yet ordered the 777-200LR yet so they might keep their A340-500s.



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MX also might be reciving the A330s from AC or even if they where going to get A340-300s they also might come from AC.


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User currently offlinePyroGX41487 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 20918 times:

Expect many of the lessor owner A345 will be coming out of Air Canada (and SQ too!!) as most as they transition to the 772LR and 787's

It won't be SQ because they recently announced they weren't in the market for ULH Aircraft.


User currently offlineNAVEGA From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 741 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 20838 times:

ROJO,

What drama, be happy that your country has an airline that is making money
when most of the others in the Western Hemisphere are loosing. Concentrate
on the positive side and be happy.

I think that what is happening at Mexicana is long overdue and that it is
a great move for a Mexican Airlines which is one of the oldest flying airlines
in the world.

Good news for Mexicana and I hope they get the best and biggest fleet
in the world.


User currently offlineFXMD11 From Thailand, joined Aug 2004, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 20719 times:

Thailand? Considering that we have a very limited trade (0.38% compared to other countries) between these 2 countries, except for some automotive business, I do not see this route coming trough unless BKK becomes a leg out of TYO once a week or so. Thais are not eager to visit Mexico and prefer rather the US. I have seen so many airlines coming and going to in BKK
(SA)">DL,CO,CP,RG,SA,TO,LO,OK etc) All were very ambitous but after a year or so, they terminated their services. The Thai Market is very unique and no, I am not a pessimist but this just doesnt fit.


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 20667 times:

MX is not going to be receiving anything from AC in the near term.

AC operates no A330-200s, and they're not expecting their 772LRs for several more years.

An A340-500 should have no need to stop from MEX to make NRT nonstop. BKK or SIN, possibly.

N


User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8322 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 20608 times:

Quoting Rojo (Reply 15):
I can see the requirement for the A330 to operate the MEX-EZE route and maybe a new route, but the A340-500??? Even the A340 will be too much for MX. This happens when you give the management of an airline to our beloved government… I can picture them saying: “lets get new airplanes and start flying intercontinental, that might increase the market value of our airline”.

Problem is China and Japan are about to become huge trading partners so there will be the need to link both countries for business travelers. You can't do this with any aircraft smaller than the the A345, not until the 787 come out and a used A345 is as cheap as you can get. I think MX has the right idea.


User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2447 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 20604 times:

Quoting NAVEGA (Reply 18):
What drama, be happy that your country has an airline that is making money
when most of the others in the Western Hemisphere are loosing. Concentrate
on the positive side and be happy.

I am happy that my country has an airline that is making money and I am happy that the name of the only airline making money is AVIACSA...  thumbsup 

And it is not a drama, it is the reality you can't see being far away from Mexico...


User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3270 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 20597 times:

Quoting Brons2 (Reply 7):
MEX-NRT is only about 6100nm!

I can certainly appreciate the hot n high conditions at MEX. But you're telling me that an A345 can't make even _that_ distance? According to the published specs on airbus.com, that would be 2900nm under the plane's max range.

The physical range is not the issue. The hot and high conditions at MEX would pose a challenge for any aircraft flying nonstop to Asia. They would be subject to significant pax and payload restrictions. On the other hand, a MEX-TIJ-NRT route on AM's 777 would be quite feasible. Without seeing or knowing the official numbers, I would imagine TIJ would have the most pax/cargo demand from Asia than any other Mexican city besides MEX.



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User currently offlineNAVEGA From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 741 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 20511 times:

Rojo now I know why all the negativeness against Mexicana and Aeromexico.

Your not being honest your being DRAMATIC.

Your posts will no longer be read by me as they have no basis now.

Thanks for letting us all know.


25 Post contains images Mexicana757 : Congratulations to Mexicana for getting the A340-500s. And I also think that those A340s are going to come from AC or SQ. Where ever they're coming fr
26 Post contains images AM001 : (please insert here your favorite robot voice): ... and your life system will be terminated, after any trace of you and/or your un-based and cold, cr
27 Mike1974 : Has MX considered other Asian destinations besides Thailand? Maybe Hong Kong or South Korea or even Taiwan? I gotta agree if the market for a MEX-Thai
28 Post contains images N405MX : Yep, lot of changes in MX, indeed, the Asia market will grow, also, as MX Cargo will be back, the planes will be full of it, and cargo market for asi
29 Post contains images RayChuang : Actually, if MX can get Airbus to put in to the Trent 556 engine on the A340-500, then MEX-NRT on a full-load year-round is definitely possible. The e
30 PDXtriple7 : Is there actually any possibly of MEX-Asia flights operating through SJD (Los Cabos)? Is the runway there long enough? I go there for spring break ev
31 Rojo : In fact, MX has been improving its numbers, but they still have lots of problems and competition is increasing. Load factors are terrible (around 64%
32 Gigneil : Already available for order. That really depends. The Trent 700 and the Trent 500 have a very, very large amount of commonality. If they get Trent 70
33 Rojo : Hope they do it, since MX likes the idea of getting their planes with totally different engines: take for example the A318/A319/A320 fleet, they have
34 Post contains images FA4AM : Hi N405MX. Sorry to ask, but where are you getting your figures from? There has long been a debate whether one airline is making money over the other
35 Post contains images Fly727 : Ohhhh yeah Baby. I'm actually happy for Mexicana. Rojo mentioned it was risky;probably right, but bottomline besides horrible marketing management it
36 Post contains images JoseMEX : While I basically agree with Rojo, I am glad to see one of our mainline carriers (MX in this case) trying something new, for a change. I really hope t
37 Carpethead : As much as I would love to see an MX aircraft into NRT, it will not be allowed into NRT due to the slots conditions. Perhaps NGO or KIX is a good alte
38 Aviasian : FXMD11 : You are spot-on about the potential (or lack of potential) for significant travel between Thailand and Mexico. Of the 10,082,109 visitors to
39 SR117 : Well I wouldn't bet on the Thailand thing, it's been said that Asia is in their plans but no real specific route has been mentioned, it was probably j
40 Mike1974 : thanks for those figures there Aviasian. Interesting facts there and like it was mentioned earlier alot of airlines didnt have a market in Thailand or
41 AM001 : By what I've been reading, MX is surely making a heavy bet on the Asia issue... I would have considered Australia a better market... anyway, I really
42 Post contains images N405MX : Those numbers where given by CINTRA, they´ll post them later. Also the numbers of AM last year where $135 million USD net loose, and that number I g
43 Mike1974 : MX may start out in the red if it does give the Asian routes a "go" but i think they wull be fine. The market for China is definitely there. I can eve
44 Mike1974 : thanks for the info N405. Good to see MX got the route granted. So im sure Hong Kong is one of the destinations being considered when it tought about
45 Xa744 : Fellows, long time no see. I believe Rojo, FXMD11 and Aviasian have a point. Appended bellow please find my two Mexican cents in contribution to the t
46 MGA : Doesnt the 346 cost less, have the range and carry more people ? Why dont they just go for that? Isnt it cheaper to operate? MGA
47 Gigneil : No, no, and yes. And because they need range and field performance not seats. And yes, but only if you fill up those extra seats with high-yield traff
48 Ghost77 : Ok, here I go! Hopefully they get one! Being the Asian market a high yield one I’m sure they will! Yes, in theory A345 has the range and can make it
49 N77014 : Are we talking passenger or cargo flights here? As pointed out earlier, mexican tourism to SE Asia is almost nil. There is nothing in the passenger fi
50 AR385 : At this point I believe wether it's A or B what they get, doesn't matter, they need to get into those markets as soon as possible
51 N77014 : QUOTE:At this point I believe wether it's A or B what they get, doesn't matter, they need to get into those markets as soon as possible And to what en
52 N405MX : Right, MX and CX are already on that business. Actually the support of the chinese goverment is better than the mexican (unfortunately for us), just
53 Mexicana757 : How is trade between Mexico and Japan and China? If Mexico has a great deal of trade between both countries, wouldn't cargo play a big role in wether
54 Post contains images N405MX : Yep, the same one. Exaaaaaaaaaaaacto...... (exactly )
55 Rojo : MX is getting closer to breakeven point... and last year the money paid back by SENEAM helped a lot. The codeshare was established to save both airli
56 Gigneil : The A340-500 will feature less restrictions because it loses less engine power in the event of a failure. This is similar to why EK selected the A340
57 Mexicana757 : I was thinking less because the A345 would need to hold more fuel to fly farther, reducing cargo space on board. I was basically comparning both the
58 ConcordeBoy : ....only to be immediately contradicted by the CEO stating that the 772LR is an aircraft that they are "following with interest" and one which could
59 N405MX : Yep, you break the monopoly and start a war between all airlines, and we will see how these ends, because one was going to kill the other one, or the
60 Hamlet69 : Because according to Airbus, it is. The A330-300 has a total cargo volume of 5,751 cu. ft. The A340-500 has 5,435 cu. ft. Regards, Hamlet69
61 Pictues : I have heard somewhere that They will be getting Air Canada's.
62 BGOODAM : They sure did'nt kill each other before, N405MX talks about MX saving AM? Please, if anything AM has saved MX. In 1994-95 AM saved MX from BK and acq
63 Post contains images N405MX : First of all, wellcome to the forums Now your points: Ok both saved themselves, about the labor cost, the income of AM personel is way higher than MX,
64 Bgoodam : Thanks for the welcome, first of all it is a fact that AM took control of MX, never has MX taken contol of AM, at least it is no recorded. Second MX
65 N405MX : You´re right, also because AM started from zero, and MX has been close to that, that´s why some changes have been made to evite that. Yep, but some
66 NAVEGA : I believe that once both airlines are away from CINTRA, that then and only then will we be able to see which airlines is best run and has a better fut
67 BGOODAM : It would be nice if you could direct us to some of these links because I don't seem to find ( and I read these papepers and these web pages ) any inf
68 BGOODAM : Im not sure i understood that one, but here it goes. Does'nt MX have about 110 pilots on the street right now, in contrast to AM that has everyone on
69 Post contains images Latinplane : BGOODAM: Welcome to the forum! That was a very funny and interesting analogy you made. You can also use Paulina Rubio and Thalia's recent career statu
70 Post contains images Fly727 : You got that right dude. It is hard to determine that now. Unfortunately they are currently supported by us taxpayers; let's see how they turn out to
71 Theredbaron : AM never fires pilots due to unions and such...remember the stupid idiot that crashed an MD 3 years ago (overran the runway ended in a ditch struck a
72 Post contains images Fly727 : As the evilish union which protects AeroMexico's pilots happens to be the same of Mexicana's, AeroCaribe's and Aeromar's, I guess that your options o
73 Theredbaron : Thanks for correcting me.... now tell me if a pilot is not a stupid pilot if he crashes 2 airplanes and is still in flying??? or did you correct me al
74 Post contains links and images N405MX : :D really funny, how about getting a lot of new 737´s (some of then not so new)....... (just to add more fun) www.elnorte.com www.reforma.com www.el
75 Post contains links N405MX : Here are some links, now working..... http://www.cintra.com.mx/espanol/accionist/reptrim/am/trim051er.htm AM http://www.cintra.com.mx/espanol/accionis
76 AM001 : Hey, considering your own posted info, I'd say, in the words of Tweety the bird: 'I thought I saw a foot-in-mouth'... BTW... results in the 1Q of 200
77 Rojo : If you take a closer look at the numbers, both airlines had a profit on Q105 (as I said in the meeting). The only problem is that only one had an oper
78 Post contains images N405MX : Rojo´s right, also JR made some money from that recovery from SENEAM, but like he said, that money won´t be there forever, as the codeshare ends, t
79 DAYflyer : Underperforming for the long haul.
80 Skyone : They have that problem now. It will be interesting to see the results of fair competition between airlines. Unless Mr. Slim buys both airlines and th
81 N405MX : It´s supossed to be not allowed (like so many other things.....)
82 Adriaticus : Long time no see, friends... Interesting exchanges, as usual when it comes to Mexican aviation and some of our fellow a.netters... What I come to find
83 Rojo : If Cargo is the driver, then why don't they get a B767-300F / B747-400F / MD11F and start flying via ANC making a bigger profit (if there is a profit
84 Post contains images N405MX : Right again The cargo business (like I said before) they want to put it back again in the manner of "MX Cargo"; the future of Aeromexpress will be de
85 Adriaticus : That is exactly what FedEx does: From Asia, to ANC, to the U.S.A., to the rest of the world, using MD11F's and (ehem!) soon, A388F's. So, the formula
86 BGOODAM : Out of all these posts ( and sorry Adriaticus if some upset you, youre always welcome to choose what posts to read and not read let me remind you that
87 BGOODAM : Good for MX if these numbers are for real, not just Cintra trying to make her look good. In all cases I would think given AM´s posture as a whole in
88 N405MX : I wonder what the notams are for.......... With 2 A320´s to come and maybe 8 more A318´s i think MX got a really great deal with Airbus; about jetb
89 Ghost77 : Right, everything recently said it's absolutely pointless! Lets take this and other a.net mexican discussion to further points and cut the b....s! Ev
90 Post contains images Adriaticus : Don't be surprised if AMLO runs for president... El Peje is surely a good way of scaring investors and visitors away... And I'm not talking only abou
91 Ghost77 : If Peje runs for the elections.... uh, scary! Hopefully our friends from the north stop him! You sure about his passport? I thought this moron haven'
92 Post contains links and images PPVRA : This thread needs some pics. Not a -500, but it's as close as it can be: Saludos, PPVRA
93 EddieDude : So two posts bashing this asshole and the authors have not gotten flamed... it bodes well for my comment, so I will say what I want to say: I hope he
94 JoseMEX : What *sshole are you referring too? AMLO or that other *ssh*le at the top who just last week got scared by all the acarreados (just like with the now
95 Post contains images N405MX : Unfortunately not buying right now, but going back to the topic, they´ll be leasing 2 A330´s and 2 A345´s
96 Post contains images Adriaticus : Eddie, a very fine tidbit of truly scatological humour, indeed... Ghost, so I heard by someone who claims to know... But you know this must be taken
97 Post contains images JoseMEX : Don't know about the airlines, but I'm pretty sure there'll be a lot of jobs for "aviadores".
98 Mike1974 : Im assuming it makes sense for MX and Cintra to lease those widebodies and not feasable to purchase at this moment (with the sale pending and everythi
99 AM744 : Just to put the discussion on equal ground. Has any of our other super politicos has? You mean like Santiago Creel's relatives(sister or something) w
100 Bgoodam : OK, here´s another rule .........mmmmm.....(thinking)........ and when we talk about Peje, just talk about him, don´t bring up FOX or Creel.....mmm
101 Post contains images JoseMEX : You mean the likes of PZurita1, N405MX, AR385, Marcus, SR117, MTYFREAK, etc. and that other part-time norteño Fly727 ("our friends from the north")?
102 Post contains images Fly2HMO : Que ondas, long time no see Gotta love el Pejelagarto... I don't know if any of you have read some of the news in the US about him. I get so annoyed.
103 Post contains images N405MX : We are a lot hoping so..... Saludos Fly2HMO Do what we can.......... , but right now with the stuff done by our gober Nati, this thing will be harder
104 Marcus : El Peje El Peje..............that's why I have always said that in order to get a voting card people should have and IQ exam also, not just a birth ce
105 Post contains links and images Adriaticus : What makes me even more upset (si, lo que más me arde) is that, if he ever makes it to The Big One, he'll get to fly beautiful TP-01 and other perks
106 Adriaticus : Right, Marcus... Plus what do you think about San Diego area people who'd rather not drive to / connect at LAX to fly to the Far East? __Ad.
107 Ghost77 : Right, only 4 widebodies planned and their sole B763 which is forced to stay until Dec 06. Nope! In that case we should be afraid of AA. Visita SCT.g
108 Marcus : Right, Marcus... Plus what do you think about San Diego area people who'd rather not drive to / connect at LAX to fly to the Far East? ***************
109 Post contains images SR117 : I definitely think that a nonstop from TIJ to Asia could atract many people from north of the border. One need only see how many tickets used on fligh
110 DLKAPA : So I guess these birds will mainly be flying MEX-Asia and Europe?
111 Post contains images N405MX : Good question , i email AR385, but he hasn´t answered yet, could use some help here..... AA#### TIJ-PVG operated by MX..... Another great point, tha
112 SFOMEX : As a matter of fairness, our beloved Peje has traveled outside the country, if only once in his life. Do you guess where? Keep guessing... You got it
113 N405MX : Hope he does. Actually, the time limit to sell MX is October 31.
114 Anthsaun : It has been a very long time since I last wrote. Well, here it is my post: Congrats to MX for this new expansion. It took several decades to become a
115 BGOODAM : Not saying i'ts not going to happen, but after hanging around in the hallways and pilot reserve pit it was interesting to note that none of the conver
116 Ghost77 : Certainly! A new batch for 8 A318s is being discussed on the table plus 4 additional SH A320s. No one knows anything [specially pilots, always the la
117 Theredbaron : I really hope the cargo and the closeness to the border makes the MEX flights to Orient a good business, certanly th ecloseness to the border, the maq
118 Post contains images N405MX : Not only in MEX, in MTY also, lack of gates, lot´s of trouble when SLW gets closed because of the fog, and you have a lot of planes delayed..... Som
119 Post contains images Marcus : PRD was behind those guys who opposed the airport, and now the rerward they will get is a life of ethernal poverty and a 2 horse town... *************
120 Pecevanne : I am not able to find any info about MXA A- 330 Any help from Ghost77 will be appreciated.
121 Post contains images N405MX : Me also, send me some of the info pls I agree with Ghost, the last people to know are the pilots, actually I got part of the info from one of them, a
122 Ghost77 : Email me via Profile or pictures in DB! Ricardo APM
123 WiLdmanVzla : I've read an interview with Mr. Emilio Romano (the chairman of MX) and I liked a lot his opinions about the way of doing the privazitation of the airl
124 Post contains images N405MX : Wich oil..... Oh the one that we want to import from Bolivia (oh no, that´s natural gas).....
125 N328KF : There will be 5 A350-500s available in a couple of years...only used once. Must pick up from the Republic of Singapore!
126 Post contains images Latinplane : Oh, US? Well, who else are you going to sell your sour crude oil to Venezuela? LatinPlane
127 N405MX : Maybe next december.....
128 Post contains images Fyano773 : Hi, I feel happy with the coming arrival of these widebodies , but now that AC, NW and others (despite their large A320/A319 fleets) will be getting r
129 Post contains images Fly727 : May I say your statement is partially true? You make a lot of sense, but at the end of the day the airlines will be sold separately. On the governmen
130 Post contains links Marcus : I have seen these kinds of news on the paper for some months now but nothing is ever official...... http://www.frontera.info/buscar/traernotanew.asp?N
131 N405MX : Actually it helps a lot the commonality, just an example, if you have a plane grounded or delayed, and you need to cover a flight, with the buses com
132 Fyano773 : I agree, but I was referring to commonality between A320 family & A340/A330 as a probable key factor to choose the big buses. Anyway, the arrival of
133 N77014 : My observations on the various comments so far... Waste of $, brains, and time. I'll put up with the commuter plane to LAX than this scenario anytime.
134 Post contains images Latinplane : Are you kidding, by time AMLO takes control of the throne what oil will they have left? Cantarell's supply alone is starting to dwindle to "warning"
135 Post contains images N405MX : From the 320 to the 330/340 only 18hrs simulator, no need a visit to the FFS, instead of an 737 to a 777 that takes a lot of sim hours and a visit FF
136 Post contains images Latinplane : I bet those seats will be taken by reps! I'd be happy if you just tell me when they start selling seats so that I can drive 3 hours down to Tijuana t
137 N405MX : When I have the info I´ll thell you {biggrin] About the seats taken, why don´t we wait for the second flight (not so full).....
138 Post contains images Latinplane : N405MX If everything should materialize as it is planned, I will certainly not turn down your offer . If everything goes in tandem with my schedule at
139 N405MX : LatinPlane No info about the dates, but we will be in touch.
140 WiLdmanVzla : Can somebody tell me how are named the classes in Yemenia?... First as 'tabule' for example? (just kidding by the way) *******
141 Post contains links and images ACDC8 : Congratulations Mexicana and Mexico! I envy you guys, you're getting the A340 and looks like we're loosing it... View Large View MediumPhoto © Al
142 Mike1974 : Just thinking about the possibility of MX acquiring the A340 and came accross the question that if that were to happen, will MX be the first airline i
143 Columba : Great picture !!!!
144 N405MX : Looks like, because LA only uses the A343, and MX is thinking on the A345 because of it´s range, also in the A332 for the flights to EZE. Cheers
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