NYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5917 posts, RR: 45 Posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7007 times:
just wanted to get your comments and speculation on any new orders (if any) that Boeing may announce at Paris. I know they have stopped "saving" order announcements for these air shows though some customers may opt to do just that.
I think EK and QR may make announcements at Paris for 777 (EK) and the 787 (EK and QR).
MrComet From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 598 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6743 times:
Boeing could announce a replacement for the 737NG based on 787 technology. This would kill A320 sales and Airbus needs those badly. All they need is Ryanair or WN to sign up and they'd be golden. They've been discounting the 737 to fill up their order books maybe for the expected drought from such an announcement.
However, I doubt they will only because they don't have the bodies in the engineering department nor the fully matured experience from the 787 so this would be premature.
They might announce the 747Adv.
In airlines, I doubt there is any big order ready to go although the ME airlines like to make splashy announcements so EK may announce a 789 order or Qatar could do something as well. I suspect LOT will announce but I doubt they will go for Boeing. CX is still probably waiting on the 747Adv but if that is announced their could be a slew of orders announced for that mainly from cargo carriers especially Luxair.
Grantcv From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 430 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6680 times:
I have heard rumors that Boeing is to announce the new 7S7 - (S for Single aisle, Shuttle Service, Southwest, Short-range, Simplified, etc.). It will feature a 100% composite fuselage, a pointy nose similar to the Concorde, delta wings, new super-quiet hydrogen powered-engines, and skylights over each seat. The plane will offer a 50% savings over equivalent aircraft available today. At least, that is the "concept".
DfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1139 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6645 times:
Quoting MrComet (Reply 5): Boeing could announce a replacement for the 737NG based on 787 technology.
Maybe... but it would be a media presentation only. Few, if any, details. Its obvious that we would be looking at a new airplane with 787 technology and I can only think of 2-3 "suprises" that Boeing could wrap into the "737-E"
Mark_D. From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 1447 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6437 times:
Let's hope they announce that 787 test fuselage mini-section #2 is out of the oven at or even before that time!
For new orders though, now that the 787 slot availability is maybe pushed back to ~2012 there probably won't be any more combined rush of orders or even 'preliminary commitments' again anytime soon, not even at The Paris Airshow 2005 edition.
Hopefully some more 772LR orders for 'em though.
And hopefully they won't announce any 747Adv, at least not now anyway since it seems to me they got plenty 'nuff on their plate with the 787, as it is.
Hamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2832 posts, RR: 57
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6422 times:
The decision to offer the 747A to airlines is expected after Paris, IIRC. So I doubt we will see any major news on that front.
A 737 replacement using 787 technology is still probably 3-4 years off. Believe me, unless Airbus announces an A32X replacement or major re-work, Boeing isn't going to move on the 737 for a minimum of 2 years.
As far as orders, it's rather tough to say. As already mentioned, Boeing lets the airlines decide when to announce an order. So if the airline wants to announce at the show, then so be it. If they don't, then so be that as well. That being said, if I were to have money on the line, I would put it on the following:
EK and/or QR (787/777F/772LR)
as well as the firm signing of many of the announced 787 MOU's
BlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 2072 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6434 times:
Emirates & Qatar going for 787? As much as I'd love to see that, the closer Paris Air Show is, the more I'm convinced these two will go for A350-900... If they wanted 787, I'm sure they'd order it already... But until the announcement is made, I'm keeping my fingers crossed...
Back to orders (a little fantasy, but let's see...)
Finnair - 787-8 x 10
Lufthansa - 787-3 x 20, A350-900 x 20
LOT - 787-8 x 6
JAL - 747-500 (a.k.a. 747Advanced) x 30
ANA - 747-500 x 20
Aer Lingus - A350-800 x 10
Iberia - A350-800 x 12, A350 - 900 x 10
Emirates - 777-300 x 20, A350-900 x 50
Qatar - A350-900 x 50
Singapore - 787-3 x 25
More than the above "fantasy", I'd like both Airbus and Boeing to publish concept-drawings for A320NG and 737 successor respectively...
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T154M From United Arab Emirates, joined Apr 2005, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 6118 times:
why not potential orders from:
Libyan Arab Airlines (desperatly needs new equipment and USA blessing)
Iraqi Airways (needs all new aircrafts after the destuction of their own)
Tunis Air (building a new airport with huge pax capacity expantion on horizon)
Etihad Airways (wants to compete with EK as the national airline of UAE)
Gulf Air (in the black now and predicting to have a biger share in the region)
Egypt Air (having made a profit for the first time in their history)
Kuwait Airways (jealouse from the other kids on the block)
Keesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5908 times:
- Nice B747adv models & mock-ups
- 2 row 787-9 stretch model & specification
- nwa 787 order
- Two 737-900ER launch customers for 10 and 20 aircraft
- A 20 aircraft 737NG order for a lowcost start-up airline we never heard of
- B787 mock-ups of below floor/ above bins bed/trolley/crew/galley options to sense the market
- B787 ILFC order for 50 aircraft
- A launch customer for a new 747-400 mid-life upgrade package.
- The launch of a life extension /upgrade program for 757 operators by Boeing CAS
- A new russian RRJ customer
- A cooperation LOI with CFM to develop a CFM56 successor