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What Will Boeing Announce At The Paris Air Show?  
User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5731 posts, RR: 48
Posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5806 times:

just wanted to get your comments and speculation on any new orders (if any) that Boeing may announce at Paris. I know they have stopped "saving" order announcements for these air shows though some customers may opt to do just that.

I think EK and QR may make announcements at Paris for 777 (EK) and the 787 (EK and QR).


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User currently offlineAtco2b From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 1114 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5790 times:

What will they announce?

A triple-decker probably Big grin



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5731 posts, RR: 48
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5787 times:

They can call it the 888!


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User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5772 times:

Safe to say 787 and 777 orders. Northwest maybe? South American carrier?


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User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5742 times:

747ADV - seating 450 in 3-class configuration.


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User currently offlineMrComet From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 511 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5542 times:

Boeing could announce a replacement for the 737NG based on 787 technology. This would kill A320 sales and Airbus needs those badly. All they need is Ryanair or WN to sign up and they'd be golden. They've been discounting the 737 to fill up their order books maybe for the expected drought from such an announcement.

However, I doubt they will only because they don't have the bodies in the engineering department nor the fully matured experience from the 787 so this would be premature.

They might announce the 747Adv.

In airlines, I doubt there is any big order ready to go although the ME airlines like to make splashy announcements so EK may announce a 789 order or Qatar could do something as well. I suspect LOT will announce but I doubt they will go for Boeing. CX is still probably waiting on the 747Adv but if that is announced their could be a slew of orders announced for that mainly from cargo carriers especially Luxair.



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User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5496 times:

IMO, this seems:

Quoting MrComet (Reply 5):
They might announce the 747Adv.

more likely than:

Quoting MrComet (Reply 5):
Boeing could announce a replacement for the 737NG based on 787 technology.


User currently offlineGrantcv From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 429 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5479 times:

I have heard rumors that Boeing is to announce the new 7S7 - (S for Single aisle, Shuttle Service, Southwest, Short-range, Simplified, etc.). It will feature a 100% composite fuselage, a pointy nose similar to the Concorde, delta wings, new super-quiet hydrogen powered-engines, and skylights over each seat. The plane will offer a 50% savings over equivalent aircraft available today. At least, that is the "concept".

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5478 times:

...prolly EK, or SQ, or both announcing the replacement of their A345s with 772LRs.

User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 957 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5444 times:

Quoting MrComet (Reply 5):
Boeing could announce a replacement for the 737NG based on 787 technology.

Maybe... but it would be a media presentation only. Few, if any, details. Its obvious that we would be looking at a new airplane with 787 technology and I can only think of 2-3 "suprises" that Boeing could wrap into the "737-E"


User currently offlineCM767 From Panama, joined Dec 2004, 651 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5443 times:

My vote goes to ...

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 4):
747ADV - seating 450 in 3-class configuration.



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User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3630 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5331 times:
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I also agree the most likely new announcement, if there is one, would be the 747A. Otherwise, it would be more information about the 787.

Boeing does not decided when to announce orders, the customer has complete control over this. And the customer always gets to announce the news first.


User currently offlineMark_D. From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 1447 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5236 times:

Let's hope they announce that 787 test fuselage mini-section #2 is out of the oven at or even before that time!


For new orders though, now that the 787 slot availability is maybe pushed back to ~2012 there probably won't be any more combined rush of orders or even 'preliminary commitments' again anytime soon, not even at The Paris Airshow 2005 edition.

Hopefully some more 772LR orders for 'em though.

And hopefully they won't announce any 747Adv, at least not now anyway since it seems to me they got plenty 'nuff on their plate with the 787, as it is.


User currently onlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2725 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5221 times:

The decision to offer the 747A to airlines is expected after Paris, IIRC. So I doubt we will see any major news on that front.

A 737 replacement using 787 technology is still probably 3-4 years off. Believe me, unless Airbus announces an A32X replacement or major re-work, Boeing isn't going to move on the 737 for a minimum of 2 years.

As far as orders, it's rather tough to say. As already mentioned, Boeing lets the airlines decide when to announce an order. So if the airline wants to announce at the show, then so be it. If they don't, then so be that as well. That being said, if I were to have money on the line, I would put it on the following:

AF (777F)
EK and/or QR (787/777F/772LR)
NW (787)
as well as the firm signing of many of the announced 787 MOU's

Regards,

Hamlet69



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User currently offlineBlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1852 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5233 times:

Emirates & Qatar going for 787? As much as I'd love to see that, the closer Paris Air Show is, the more I'm convinced these two will go for A350-900... If they wanted 787, I'm sure they'd order it already... But until the announcement is made, I'm keeping my fingers crossed...

Back to orders (a little fantasy, but let's see...)

Finnair - 787-8 x 10
Lufthansa - 787-3 x 20, A350-900 x 20
LOT - 787-8 x 6
JAL - 747-500 (a.k.a. 747Advanced) x 30
ANA - 747-500 x 20
Aer Lingus - A350-800 x 10
Iberia - A350-800 x 12, A350 - 900 x 10
Emirates - 777-300 x 20, A350-900 x 50
Qatar - A350-900 x 50
Singapore - 787-3 x 25

More than the above "fantasy", I'd like both Airbus and Boeing to publish concept-drawings for A320NG and 737 successor respectively...



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31660 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5054 times:

More B787 orders or hopefully the B747Advanced.
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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7558 posts, RR: 43
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5031 times:

If AM's Board agrees to get a third 772ER, perhaps the ILFC could add-on a firm order.


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User currently offlineCruiser From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1001 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5018 times:

Quoting Ha763 (Reply 11):
Boeing does not decided when to announce orders, the customer has complete control over this. And the customer always gets to announce the news first.

Or, unless Leahy announces it for them in the case of Northwest.

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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5019 times:

Iberia - A350-800 x 12, A350 - 900 x 10
Emirates - 777-300 x 20, A350-900 x 50
Qatar - A350-900 x 50
Singapore - 787-3 x 25


a bit too many I think!

Singapore Airlines announced they have no intention to order the A 350/B787 for now. Maybe in the future.


User currently offlineBoeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4998 times:

A big shocker would be the 747ADV with 150-200 orders attached to it.

User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5442 posts, RR: 29
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4955 times:

Quoting Mark_D. (Reply 12):
And hopefully they won't announce any 747Adv, at least not now anyway since it seems to me they got plenty 'nuff on their plate with the 787, as it is.

Maybe you think one new development is enough, but I'm sure Boeing feels a little differently.

-Dave



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User currently offlineT154M From United Arab Emirates, joined Apr 2005, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4917 times:

why not potential orders from:

Libyan Arab Airlines (desperatly needs new equipment and USA blessing)
Iraqi Airways (needs all new aircrafts after the destuction of their own)
Tunis Air (building a new airport with huge pax capacity expantion on horizon)
Etihad Airways (wants to compete with EK as the national airline of UAE)
Gulf Air (in the black now and predicting to have a biger share in the region)
Egypt Air (having made a profit for the first time in their history)
Kuwait Airways (jealouse from the other kids on the block)


User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4744 times:

How about the 747ADV for EK and QR. This could be a possibility as there are quite a lot 787´s ordered. Both Airlines need Aircrafts badly and fast.

My guess is that both go for 350´s.


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4707 times:



- Nice B747adv models & mock-ups
- 2 row 787-9 stretch model & specification
- nwa 787 order
- Two 737-900ER launch customers for 10 and 20 aircraft
- A 20 aircraft 737NG order for a lowcost start-up airline we never heard of
- B787 mock-ups of below floor/ above bins bed/trolley/crew/galley options to sense the market
- B787 ILFC order for 50 aircraft
- A launch customer for a new 747-400 mid-life upgrade package.
- The launch of a life extension /upgrade program for 757 operators by Boeing CAS
- A new russian RRJ customer
- A cooperation LOI with CFM to develop a CFM56 successor

Lets not help them any further


User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4663 times:

You guys got it all wrong....we're buying Airbus!!!  eek 


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25 JAM747 : Maybe Boeing will announce the development of a small jet below the B-737 built in collaboration with an ex-soviet a/c maker ? I think they will have
26 Post contains images PlanesNTrains : Good call - I forgot all about the -900X with all the 787/A380 talk. A la Primaris? Is 50 airframes a number that's been rumored? That would be sweet
27 NYC777 : I really believe that: QR will buy the 787 - 30 firm + 30 option EK 777-200LR and 787-900 ILFC 20 firm 787 LOT - 787 6 firm + 6 option 747ADV launch w
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