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B-777 Landing At Love Field...  
User currently offlineRHSNYC From United States of America, joined May 2004, 95 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 9630 times:

Saw a 777 with "AS" after the serial number landing at DAL yestersay. It was white with a few stripes. Dallas Mavericks 757 took off after it landed. Anyone have info on this?

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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9601 posts, RR: 69
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 9590 times:
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was prob. N777AS you saw.

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 9510 times:


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User currently offlineFalcon flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 9502 times:

Fboweb.com showed it coming in from IAH yesterday with a flight plan filed to Cancun today. Registered to Wells Fargo Bank Northwest NA Trustee. Must be some Mid East shindig going on there since there's also a Saudia MD-11 inbound to MMUN from Stansted and a Falcon 900 flight planned from Gander to Cancun.


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User currently offlineJonnyGT From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 242 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 9341 times:

I saw this plane turning on to finals over Addison yesterday afternoon. I didn't even think DAL could handle a 777. The weather was absolutely pristine and it looked like it was slowly floating over the suburbs.

User currently offlineJtamu97 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 658 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 9307 times:

Quoting JonnyGT (Reply 4):
I didn't even think DAL could handle a 777

DAL used to accomodate the Big Orange Monster of Braniff.


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User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 9285 times:

WellsFargo owns their own T7? Maybe I won't stop banking with them!

Regards.


User currently offlineJtamu97 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 658 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 9237 times:

I am sure that is who the lease is through just like my house. Wells Fargo would own t if I stopped paying the mortgage.


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User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2368 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9222 times:

Quoting JonnyGT (Reply 4):
I didn't even think DAL could handle a 777.

Braniff started DAL to HNL 747 service before DFW was even built.



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User currently offlineBNAflyer78 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 258 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9185 times:

Wasn't the Saudi prince meeting with Pres. Bush on his ranch in Crawford this week? If so, could he be using this plane?


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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5637 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9122 times:

Indeed, and the Concorde, if I am not mistaken.
Anybody back me up on this?


User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9112 times:

Quoting BNAflyer78 (Reply 9):
Wasn't the Saudi prince meeting with Pres. Bush on his ranch in Crawford this week

Holding hands is more like it........

Quoting Falcon flyer (Reply 3):
Must be some Mid East shindig going on there since there's also a Saudia MD-11 inbound to MMUN from Stansted

What is MMUN? (Three letter codes are much better for mass communication with persons in posession of an inferior intelligence, like myself, who can barely decode IATA, let alone ICAO.)

Quoting CitationJet (Reply 8):
Braniff started DAL to HNL 747 service before DFW was even built.

Delta flew their 747 into DAL in addition to Braniff. (ATL-DAL-LAX/SFO)



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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9021 times:

WellsFargo owns their own T7? Maybe I won't stop banking with them

Wells Fargo owns hundreds of aircraft as they are one of the largest aircraft financing banks in the world.



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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2948 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8849 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 12):
Wells Fargo owns hundreds of aircraft as they are one of the largest aircraft financing banks in the world.

That's actually not quite right. They are a big bank, and they are listed by the FAA as the registered owner of hundreds (if not thousands) of aircraft, but they do not typically provide any financing. Rather, Wells Fargo frequently acts as an "owner trustee" for aircraft.

The U.S. has some very restrictive rules when it comes to airline and aircraft ownership. Many people here might be aware that U.S. airlines cannot be more than 25% foreign owned. Well, the same applies to aircraft on the FAA registry.

So, what happens when a foreign person (and by "person," I mean any entity--bank, corporation, whatever) wants to register an aircraft in the U.S.? They transfer title to the aircraft to one of these owner trusts, which are considered U.S. citizens for FAA registration purposes. For legal reasons, most of these trusts are set up in certain states, and there are a few trust companies that specialize in acting as "trustee" in this sort of arrangement. Wells Fargo Bank Northwest, N.A., in Utah, is one of the biggest--other big names include Wilmington Trust Company and U.S. Bank.

The "real" owner (which can be a foreign person) maintains a beneficial interest in the trust, and they can instruct the trustee to sell, lease, etc. the aircraft, subject to certain limitations that must be included in the trust agreement in order to satisfy the ownership laws.

So, although Wells Fargo is listed as owning this aircraft, they really just act as trustee for the beneficial owner, in this case presumably Mid East Jet.



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 8816 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 10):
Indeed, and the Concorde, if I am not mistaken.
Anybody back me up on this?

The Concorde interchange, and actually Concorde's EIS, was after the move to DFW



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User currently offlineSwadispatcher From United States of America, joined May 2004, 427 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 8765 times:

Quoting BNAflyer78 (Reply 9):
Wasn't the Saudi prince meeting with Pres. Bush on his ranch in Crawford this week? If so, could he be using this plane?

He left late yesterday afternoon in an entourage of 3 ac.. a 744, his 743 and a Gulfstream of some sort.. bound for Casablanca, Morocco; or so Flight Explorer said..



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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5062 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8545 times:

I saw this 777 at IAH on the FedEX ramp on Tuesday when I departed on a NW DC9 for MEM. So whose is it?


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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4312 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8491 times:
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Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 16):
So whose is it?

Wells Fargo owns it. Did you even read any of the posts?


User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2948 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 8364 times:

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 17):
Wells Fargo owns it. Did you even read any of the posts?

No they don't...did YOU read any of the posts (particularly #13)?  Smile



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User currently offlineLambertSTL777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 218 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8312 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 11):
What is MMUN?

MMUN = Munich (atleast as far as I know)



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User currently offlineNbgskygod From United States of America, joined May 2004, 726 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8266 times:

MMUN, is Cancun Mexico...German airports all have ED** as their prefix. Mexican airports use MM** as their icao


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User currently offlineOH-LGA From Denmark, joined Oct 1999, 1436 posts, RR: 20
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8269 times:

MMUN - Cancun, Mexico
EDDM - Munich, Germany

As a rule, all ICAO codes for Europe start with an E.

Kai



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User currently offlineN506CR From Costa Rica, joined Nov 2004, 147 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8252 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 11):
What is MMUN? (Three letter codes are much better for mass communication with persons in posession of an inferior intelligence, like myself, who can barely decode IATA, let alone ICAO.)



Quoting LambertSTL777 (Reply 19):
MMUN = Munich (atleast as far as I know)

Nope.

Cancun - International (CUN/MMUN), Mexico.

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User currently offlineN77014 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8239 times:

Correct. This was parked at the freighter ramp adjacent to CO Cargo at IAH.

User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2226 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7410 times:

As a rule, all ICAO codes for Europe start with an E

Don't mean to sound like a smart as* but that is not actually correct...  no 



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25 Stirling : ....and exactly why I wish we could all show some love (and not how big our brains are...) to our fellow A.Netters, and stick to 3-letter codes...much
26 Post contains links and images Qxq400 : Correct me if I am wrong on this,but I thought that N****as is the registration for Alaska airlines planes???? View Large View MediumPhoto © Troy
27 Stirling : If Alaska doesn't have N777AS in their fleet, it is open for anyone to use. The letter suffixes at the end of registrations are not unique to airline
28 Post contains images Qxq400 : Thanks,for clearing that up for me.
29 Post contains links CitationJet : Actually, N777AS is assigned to Boeing 777-24Q, sn 29271, owned by Wells Fargo. http://www.landings.com/evird.acgi$p...dings/pages/search/search_nnr.
30 KDALAggie : I personally can vouch that 747's did come into love field; however, I did not personally witness this. I was not born yet. However, my father and mot
31 Chgoflyer : Great response FoxBravo. The largest aircraft owner/lessee remains AIG. Your correct about the formation of an operating trust as well. Notice when an
32 Highflier92660 : For all the fans of Big Iron using short runways, Braniff did indeed fly the famous 747 N601BN from Dallas Love Field to HNL, a distance of 3291nm. on
33 EMBQA : Correct me if I am wrong on this,but I thought that N****as is the registration for Alaska airlines planes???? You can also reserve a block of number
34 CitationJet : My father worked for Braniff from 1956 to May 1982. In fact he was a non-rev on the last Braniff flight to operate; N601BN from HNL to DFW which lande
35 Post contains images DCA-ROCguy : In addition to Braniff and Delta, American also flew 747's into DAL. They used gate 5, which is now used by Southwest. See George Cearley's book on Lo
36 TCFC424 : Thats funny about the allusion to the Wright Amendment...but it did rrive from within the state, although I am sure an international departure from DA
37 Bond007 : It's at FLL, KFLL, Fort Lauderdale Florida right now. It appears that COA7 was the last B777 in DAL on 9/15/03. Don't know the story but it did the us
38 Post contains images Texan : The Saudi GIV that was here earlier arrived from Gander, Newfoundland. We had one of their CL604s depart here for London via Gander as well. The Saud
39 DLKAPA : Oh jesus dude you're a "law student" and you didn't know that when you lease an aircraft (or car) or ar making payments on something, you pay THE BAN
40 Bond007 : Oh, and don't forget N4522V B747SP that was in DAL earlier this year! Jimbo
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