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F9 Forgets To Put Oil Plug In Causing Emerg. Land  
User currently offlineUAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 11
Posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3006 times:

I believe this is the last F9 737 that was being returned. Here is the story and a link. This aircraft has a long history of strange things happening....

DENVER - A Frontier Airlines plane had to make an emergency landing after mechanics working on the jet forgot to replace a critical part, 9NEWS has learned.

The Federal Aviation Administration confirms that on Friday, aircraft number 313 took off from Denver headed for Oakland. There were no passengers on board.

Just a few minutes into the flight, warning lights came on telling the pilots they were losing oil pressure. They turned the plane around and returned to DIA.

It turns out the plane had just undergone a "bore inspection" at the airport and the crew forgot the oil-plug. Investigators tell 9News that without oil the plane's engines would have only been able to operate for about 60 minutes. The flight from Colorado to California is roughly two hours.

The plane was empty because it was a lease-return being flown back to its owner in the Bay area.

Frontier tells 9News that it is taking the incident very seriously and an active investigation is underway. The airline has a spotless safety record since it began flying in 1994

http://9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNA...76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf


/// UNITED AIRLINES
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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2986 times:

I seem to remember this same thing happening on an Eastern Airlines L-1011, 20 years ago.

On that incident, they didn't put the oil plugs in all 3 engines.


User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2949 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 1):
I seem to remember this same thing happening on an Eastern Airlines L-1011, 20 years ago.

On that incident, they didn't put the oil plugs in all 3 engines

In that case the AMT's did not ensure that the chip detectors had o-rings installed on them. Thus causing the engines to lose oil.


User currently offlineN844AA From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2922 times:

Was that the incident where a ditching looked probable until the engines were restarted only a few thousand feet AGL?


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User currently offlineB757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1379 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2891 times:

I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE THE NEXT GUY LEASING THAT AIRCRAFT. Jesus


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User currently offlineFloris From Netherlands, joined Jun 2003, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2784 times:

That is kind of a stupid remark for a B757 captain... How would this have anything to do with the future safety of the aircraft?!

User currently offlineJamie757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2751 times:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't losing oil pressure cause excessive wear on those poor engines? It would be like buying a secondhand car off 'Dodgy Joe' that lives two doors away, only to have it break down every other day!

Rgds


User currently offlineJetboyflyhi From France, joined Oct 2004, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2722 times:

Wow hey this shows, human error is the highest cause of incidents!


Chicken or Beef?
User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2094 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2705 times:

Quoting Jamie757 (Reply 6):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't losing oil pressure cause excessive wear on those poor engines

If engines are worn past limits, they're changed. As Floris said, it was kind of a nonsensical remark by B757capt.

[Edited 2005-04-29 02:10:14]

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2679 times:

Quoting B757capt (Reply 4):
I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE THE NEXT GUY LEASING THAT AIRCRAFT.

It's not clear if the aircraft being returned was turned over to the lessor at DEN, or was to be on arrival at OAK, but either way if the engines suffered damage as a result from Frontier's error, one can easily surmise who'll be liable for any repair/overhaul costs...


User currently offlineBandA From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2668 times:

Quoting DL Widget Head (Reply 8):
Quoting Jamie757 (Reply 6):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't losing oil pressure cause excessive wear on those poor engines

If engines are worn past limits, they're changed. As Floris said, it was kind of a nonsensical remark by B757capt.

[Edited 2005-04-29 02:10:14]

Who will be responsible for paying for this engine change (replacement)? Frontier? or do airliners have some sort of insurance that would cover such situations?

If the guy leasing this plane next is going to be the one responsible then I agree with Jamie757.



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User currently offlineJamie757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2653 times:

Quoting DL Widget Head (Reply 8):
If engines are worn past limits, they're changed

I appreciate that, but isn't that going to cost the new operators of the plane money though?

Rgds


User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2094 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2567 times:

Quoting Jamie757 (Reply 11):
I appreciate that, but isn't that going to cost the new operators of the plane money though?

I'm sure the leasing company would not lease out an aircraft if it was not airworthy or in good condition. The airline leasing the aircraft would also inspect the aircraft's service records to know what they're getting into.


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