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Largest Amount Of Airlines On One Route?  
User currently offlineNorthwest 777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 224 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5211 times:

First of all, yes I did search but I couldn't find what I was looking for necessarily. Basically, I'm curious to know what route, anywhere in the world, has the largest amount of separate, competing carriers operating on it? It seems to me I remember there may have been a thread kind of relating to this, but not exactly. I think it may have actually been what route has the most frequencies, but I don't think it mentioned what route had the most airlines on it?

Also, I'm mostly interested in finding out what route has not only the most airlines on it, but the route that has the most airlines all operating with full rights between those two cities? I know that BKK-HKG/SIN, for example, all have a bunch of European carries operating on them, but I'm pretty sure that not many of them have 5th freedom rights to pick up passengers locally. I have a feeling that the route that will end up having what I'm looking for, will be in Europe, specifically in between countries both in the EU.

Let the discussion begin! Thanks for any info you guys come up with for me! Oh, and if you want to post to tell me to search again, don't bother because not only did I already do that, but this is the whole purpose of a public forum. Thanks!

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User currently offlineJoyA380B747 From India, joined Mar 2005, 495 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5186 times:

Hello NW777,
Just wait till end 2005 and you shall see BOM-LHR as the route with as many as 7 airlines, the highest between any European and Asian city.
They are Air India, British Airways, British Midland, Virgin Atlantic, Jet airways, Air Sahara and Indian Airlines(maybe).
How about that..?  rotfl 



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User currently offlineNickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5201 times:

On BKK-SIN, there is AirAsia, JetStar Asia, Thai, Singapore Airlines, Finnair, Garuda, Swiss, Scandinavian, Turkish, Finnair, Cathay, Biman, Indian Airlines and Valuair. All with full traffic rights. 14 airlines.

User currently offlineNickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5170 times:

Add Tiger Airways to that list as well for fifteen!

User currently offlineDIJKKIJK From France, joined Jul 2003, 1791 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5169 times:

Outside of the EU it has to be LHR-JFK.

Within the EU, it may be LHR-AMS , but I may be wrong



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User currently offlineNorthwest 777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5169 times:

Quoting Nickofatlanta (Reply 2):
On BKK-SIN, there is AirAsia, JetStar Asia, Thai, Singapore Airlines, Finnair, Garuda, Swiss, Scandinavian, Turkish, Finnair, Cathay, Biman, Indian Airlines and Valuair. All with full traffic rights. 14 airlines.

HOLY COW!!!  Wow! All with full rights!?!? That's exactly what I was looking for! Thanks Nick!


User currently offlineBA380 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5126 times:

Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 4):
Outside of the EU it has to be LHR-JFK.

Within the EU, it may be LHR-AMS , but I may be wrong

huh?

JFK - LHR is only served by 4 airlines at present (BA VS AA UA) unless Cathay has started yet. Surely there are plenty of other routes that have 4 airlines on and I am sure there are ones with more.

LHR to AMS is only served by KLM bmi and BA.

I'm sure both of these can be easily beaten.



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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5117 times:

Quoting BA380 (Reply 6):
JFK - LHR is only served by 4 airlines at present (BA VS AA UA) unless Cathay has started yet. Surely there are plenty of other routes that have 4 airlines on and I am sure there are ones with more.

Actually there are a couple of others who have rights such as KU, AI and SQ, I think. but the number of seats they offer is small.....



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User currently offlineEmiratesUK From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 288 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5072 times:

Correct KU & AI do but not SQ, they have been fighting to get the rights for years now. CX not sure what the state of play is on that one....


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User currently offlineHailstone From Germany, joined Nov 2000, 410 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5076 times:

i do not think that any pair beats SIN BKK (if memory serves well, asiana also had a flight on there, but that seems to be discontinued.

SIN JKT has 10 carriers, namely
SQ, GA, VF, TG, AI, KL, LH, EK, PR, CX - not sure if bouraq and merpati are still in business....


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12094 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5032 times:
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Largest number of airlines operating on a route in New Zealand is 3 airlines (NZ, QF and QO), thats on the WLG-CHC route. The WLG-AKL route also have three airlines on the route but QO doesn't operate anymore direct flights since their 2 ATR72s left the fleet last year.

User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7092 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5005 times:

AKL-SYD
NZ, TG, QF, EK, AR, Lan Chile


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12094 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4978 times:
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Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 11):
AKL-SYD
NZ, TG, QF, EK, AR, Lan Chile

Also TN


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20508 posts, RR: 62
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4988 times:

Quoting Nickofatlanta (Reply 2):
Finnair, Garuda, Swiss, Scandinavian, Turkish, Finnair,

How many Finnair's are there?  Smile



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User currently offlineNZ747 From New Zealand, joined Dec 2004, 967 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4930 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 12):
Also TN

TN don't fly AKL-SYD, but as a freighter service, DHL and SQ cargo do.


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12094 posts, RR: 18
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4898 times:
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Quoting NZ747 (Reply 14):
TN don't fly AKL-SYD, but as a freighter service, DHL and SQ cargo do.

According to TNs route map on their web-site and AKLs web-site, they do


User currently offlineRICARDOAB From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4893 times:

LON (Not specifically LHR) - NYC

BA
VS
CO
DL
AA
US
AI
Kuwait AW


User currently offlineNeo From Brazil, joined Jan 2001, 672 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4852 times:

Quoting RICARDOAB (Reply 16):
LON (Not specifically LHR) - NYC

That wouldn't make it just one route, which is the focus here in these thread!
So that really doesn't count!

Smarty!!!

Rgs,

Neo


User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4844 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 15):
According to TNs route map on their web-site and AKLs web-site, they do

It may be that TN fly between the two cities as part of one service to both, but cannot pick up passengers in AKL and take to SYD.



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User currently offlineNZ747 From New Zealand, joined Dec 2004, 967 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4849 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 15):
According to TNs route map on their web-site and AKLs web-site, they do

Although this flight has a TN flight number (TN401), it is operated by QF using a B733. This however isn't a code share flight with QF, and you will only find pax from the PPT-AKL flight on board. It is a separate flight from QF190 (B763) that departs at the same time.


User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5629 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4793 times:

SYD-SIN:
QF, AO, SQ, BA, GF, EK, GA (via DPS) Royal Bruni (via BRI) MH (via KUL, might be pushing it  Smile )

Total of nine, all have trafic rights

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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5689 posts, RR: 44
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4723 times:
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SYD-SIN
I only count 4- Direct
QF, SQ, BA, GF,

AO GA MH BI are all via "someplace"

EK is sched SYD-DBX but is that nonstop??

Several others codeshare-



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User currently offlineAloha73G From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2362 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4531 times:

LAX-HNL has 7-

UA, AA, HA, DL, CO, NW, TZ, plus some charters

Thats a hefty number of airlines/flights! Throw in AQ from SNA too and thats 8. This route is served by ALL of the Big 5 'Legacy Carriers' and might be the only one with that distinction.

Aloha!



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User currently offlineN503JB From Hong Kong, joined May 2000, 301 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4218 times:

Between Hong Kong & Bangkok with Full traffic right.

TG
CX
KA
GF
KQ
OX
CI
EK
AY
ET
UL
Skyeye (L1011 Operator)



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User currently offlineKEno From Malaysia, joined Feb 2004, 1842 posts, RR: 27
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4013 times:

Kuala Lumpur-Jakarta (11 airlines)
1. Malaysia Airlines
2. Air Asia
3. Garuda Indonesia
4. Merpati Nusantara
5. Lion Airlines
6. Star Air
7. KLM Royal Dutch
8. Qatar Airways
9. Emirates
10. Yemenia
11. Saudi Arabian

Singapore-Jakarta (11 airlines)
1. Singapore Airlines
2. Garuda Indonesia
3. Cathay Pacific
4. Thai Airways
5. Philippine Airlines
6. Air France
7. Lufthansa
8. KLM Royal Dutch
9. Saudi Arabian
10. Air India
11. Emirates


25 RJpieces : Neither US or DL fly LON-NYC. I assume you meant United though. LAX-NRT has JAL, ANA, NW, American, Thai, Korean, Varig, and SQ I believe. NYC-FLL ha
26 WeAreUnited : And I'm assuming you meant to have United included in that route as well. They've been serving that route for years. They are even adding another dai
27 Intothinair : Small correction there, LH does not fly SIN-CGK anymore. They serve CGK through BKK now. I would also say that BKK-SIN is the route flown by the most
28 Joost : And next to that, KL will stop the route SIN-CGK too and will only fly Jakarta through KUL in the near future.
29 Hardiwv : GIG-GRU: 13 airlines serve this route 1. RG; 2. TAM; 3. GOL; 4. BRA; 5. AA; 6. CO; 7. BA; 8. LA; 9. AV; 10. TP; 11. PU; 12. AR; 13. LAB; Did I forget
30 Paul : I know its not direct but LHR-SYD. There must be at least a dozen airlines that fly that route.
31 Post contains images Airbazar : It may come as a surprise to many but it seems pretty obvious from this thread that BA really doesn't have that much competition operating to/from LHR
32 Star_world : Not at all! BA, QF and VS are the only ones with single flight numbers LHR-SYD - plenty of others have the ability to connect, such as SQ or EK (or s
33 AF022 : No foreign carrier has traffic rights here. I came up with the following based on May schedules: 14 HKGBKK (AI, AY, CI, CX, EK, ET, GF, KA, KQ, OX, P
34 JFernandez : I presume you're not counting codeshares here?
35 RoyalOrchid773 : AF022, You might wanna add FD (Thai AirAsia), and 3K (JetStar Asia) to the BKK-SIN list. And 3I (Thai Sky Airlines, one that operates the L1011) to th
36 VHXLR8 : Hey Gemuser and StealthZ, in regards to Aus-Singapore; actually Melbourne has more carriers than Sydney on that one. QF, BA, SQ, EK, OS Cheers
37 Ktachiya : OK certainly not the most but I can contribute to the chart of giving some information of routes served from NRT back in 2001 July NRT-LAX Served by J
38 Mandala499 : SIN-CGK.... 1. Singapore Airlines 2. Garuda Indonesia 3. Cathay Pacific 4. Thai Airways 5. Philippine Airlines 6. Air France -- No Longer. 7. Lufthans
39 ZK-NBT : Also PH Try AKL-BNE aswell. NZ, QF, EK, TG, BI, GA, DJ starting soon, SJ ending soon.
40 Jet-lagged : NRT - LAX has nine: American ANA JAL Korean Northwest Singapore Thai Varig United Not too shabby. Not as many as others, but if you multiply the numbe
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