Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51 Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1845 times:
With the oldest 752s over 20 years old, it's around the right time frame for cargo conversions of the type.
Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 4): I could see some RJ as cargo, replacing the Caravan CargoMaster to smaller airports
I think the cargo conversion of the EMB-120 would be a more likely candidate for that. More than likely, CRJs and ERJs will slip in to roles as biz jets after their careers in airline service are done.
KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11705 posts, RR: 52 Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1678 times:
Quoting Srbmod (Reply 5): With the oldest 752s over 20 years old, it's around the right time frame for cargo conversions of the type.
IIRC, the 1st B-757 was built for Eastern Airlines (delivered in 1982?). They use to have "757" painted on the tail. But, that airframe is now owned by NASA.
Quoting Srbmod (Reply 5): I think the cargo conversion of the EMB-120 would be a more likely candidate for that.
There already is an approved and type certified cargo conversion for the E-120, E-110, Metro II/III, C-99, B-1900B/C/D/E, Saab-340/B and ATR-42/72.
Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 3): Quoting Caboclo (Reply 2):
How long before the RJs go cargo?
Never... they're goin straight to the desert.
Quoting Srbmod (Reply 5): More than likely, CRJs and ERJs will slip in to roles as biz jets after their careers in airline service are done.
I think you are right DFwRevolution. I just don't see any advantage to spending the money to convert a CRJ/ERJ to a Biz Jet. Now you are almost at the cost of a new build Biz Jet, esspecially if the CRJ/ERJ is due heavy a maintenance check. You would be better off with a new G-V (G-VI, G-VII?), BBJ or BBJ2.
The RJs will go to the desert and be scrapped.
But, what about a MD-80F? Is there any talk of converting the MD-80/82/83/87/88 to a freighter? Any talk of an A-319F/320F/321F for the oldest versions of these airplanes? Watching the US and UA flights in and out of DFW, it sure seems like these two airlines are flying more and more E-170s and fewer A-319/320s here.
B-737-300/400s are already being converted to B-737-300F/400Fs. Kitty Hawk is now flying the B-737-300F. They would be a good candidate for converted B-757-200Fs.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 80 Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1636 times:
Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 4): I could see some RJ as cargo, replacing the Caravan CargoMaster to smaller airports
Not enough takeoff performance. They would need 6000 feet to get up fully loaded.
Quoting Srbmod (Reply 5): With the oldest 752s over 20 years old, it's around the right time frame for cargo conversions of the type.
Two things supporting that. One is the 757's amazing thrust/weight ratio that allows it to life anything. Second is the fact that the 757-200PF has already proven itself a capable cargo hauler.
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 6): Now you are almost at the cost of a new build Biz Jet, esspecially if the CRJ/ERJ is due heavy a maintenance check. You would be better off with a new G-V (G-VI, G-VII?), BBJ or BBJ2.
Or you can by a Legacy (based on the ERJ) or Challenger/GlobalExpress (what the CRJ is based on)
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I think Fedex, Ups, and DHL/Astar will replace their 727s and DC-9s with RJs. Granted, they'll have to work out some details, like cargo containers; but the 727s won't last much longer, and they'll need something to fly between the hubs and the larger towns.
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