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Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed  
User currently offlineBoeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 15274 times:

According to the latest issue of Business & Commercial Aviation, Jet Aviation & Airbus are about to announce the sale of an A380 to an undisclosed Middle Eastern Head of State. (surprise, surprise) Jet Aviation is Switzerland will be handling the interior completion. Geez, I wonder how long that will take. Longer than to make the aircraft itself I'd bet.

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User currently offlineLeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 15209 times:

It was always fairly obvious this would happen! "My plane's bigger than your plane", etc. Look forward to seeing whose it is.

User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1926 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 15089 times:

What kind of sq footage are we looking at inside three decks of luxury?

seems like such a waste.



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12150 posts, RR: 49
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 15004 times:

Well we will all pay for it in higher fuel prices so they can have this toy.


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineGlom From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2821 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 14995 times:

Not the most practical since you can only take it to slot restricted hubs.

User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 14922 times:

Well the story about higher fuel-prices is the following :
-main beneficiaries are among (some ) arabs mainly traders in the USA ,Asia and Europe who push up the prices for crude-oil to unsane levels.
-secondary windfall profits are swept into the pockets of governments that continue to tax petrol-products at basically 400 % ontop the price of crude-oil.In France one liter of gasoline sells at about 1.25 € ( 1,50 $)- but taxes represent 82% of that amount.
So before bitching on the arabs we better bitch on our governments who -despite rise in crude-oil prices-accept an even steeper leveraged price due to higher taxes .None of the european governmenst has suggested to ease the level of taxes on the petrol to ease the pain on our budgets.They are the real maffia gang !!!



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User currently offlineMoose1226 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 250 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 14852 times:

Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 2):
seems like such a waste.

Amazing what people will do when they control enough oil.  banghead 


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 14827 times:

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 3):
Well we will all pay for it in higher fuel prices so they can have this toy.

yup..blame everything on them....heck..how about The Gestapo or WWII? blame the Arabs for that too!  sarcastic 

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 5):
So before bitching on the arabs we better bitch on our governments who -despite rise in crude-oil prices-accept an even steeper leveraged price due to higher taxes .None of the european governmenst has suggested to ease the level of taxes on the petrol to ease the pain on our budgets.They are the real maffia gang !!!

couldn't agree with you more  yes 

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 5):
main beneficiaries are among (some ) arabs mainly traders in the USA ,Asia and Europe who push up the prices for crude-oil to unsane levels.

agree x2  yes 



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User currently offlineC680 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 588 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 14769 times:

So THAT'S why I'm paying $2.54 a gallon!!!  Wink


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User currently offlineDragon-wings From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 14750 times:

A private A380 will not be able to land at alot of airports beacause most airports will not be able to handle a A380.


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User currently offlineEspion007 From Denmark, joined Dec 2003, 1691 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 14704 times:

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But seriously, If I had the money I would do the same.



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User currently offlineTrident2e From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 14704 times:

Quoting Moose1226 (Reply 6):
Amazing what people will do when they control enough oil.

What an insightful description of the American political system!


User currently offlineChuffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 14703 times:

Quoting Dragon-wings (Reply 10):
A private A380 will not be able to land at alot of airports beacause most airports will not be able to handle a A380.

If the money is there, they could buy access to anywhere.


User currently offlineEmiratesUK From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 288 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 14621 times:

As was mentioned in another thread earlier, if the A380 was purchased as a private jet then the aircraft would not use public terminal facilities. so.....the A380 would be able to land at any airport that takes scheduled/regular B747 aircraft, and use remote stands or VIP area If it is going to an Arab royal family or billionaire then it will more than likely be making regular visits to LHR,NCE,GVA,NYC,LAX and a few others, somehow I don't see it on regualar trips to CVT or IBZ...

If I had the money I would buy one....



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User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 14509 times:

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 3):
Well we will all pay for it in higher fuel prices so they can have this toy.

Chances are they already have the funds in their own bank accounts so they do not need to 'borrow' from us, get it?

Recovering and refining oil is a giant business and people own those businesses, does any of you actually expect them to NOT flaunt their lifestyles?

Quoting Dragon-wings (Reply 10):
A private A380 will not be able to land at alot of airports beacause most airports will not be able to handle a A380.

A private A380 will be much lighter than the commercial counterpart, hence less pavement loading, hence less takeoff/landing distance = more and more airports are within reach. Besides, how many times has an international leader visited your home country in their own large airplane?

Span is another issue though. Big grin



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User currently offlineDragon-wings From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 14497 times:

But don't the airports have to upgrade the taxiways (make them stronger and wider) for the A380? Will airports like NCE and GVA upgrade the taxiways just so they can handle a private A380?


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User currently offlineSanjet From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 14441 times:

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 3):
Well we will all pay for it in higher fuel prices so they can have this toy.

This is a capitalist world where businesses can set the prices to whatever they want because they are free to do so. If you increase the price of your product and they still keep getting strong sales, why in heavens would you lower the price? The oil business is just like any other business (airline, restaurant, etc...) If you can't afford to fuel your Ford Explorer, get an Echo.

Well back to the subject, I wonder how often it's going to fly. I know one of their private A340 only has 300 hours and was built in 1999, talk about AOG!



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User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 14409 times:

Some reports published earlier , said the King of Jordan is interested in an A380

User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17830 posts, RR: 46
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 14409 times:

Quoting Trident2e (Reply 12):
What an insightful description of the American political system!

Have you seen anyone in the government in a widebody private plane besides the President?



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User currently offlinePADSpot From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 14405 times:

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 5):
-main beneficiaries are among (some ) arabs mainly traders in the USA ,Asia and Europe who push up the prices for crude-oil to unsane levels.

Currently transport capacities (pipelines, tankers) are the bottleneck. The scapegoats you are looking for are at first a booming world economy, at second people who don't care about saving fossil energy and at third ship owners who paid attention to basic classes in economics.

The more sensitive the price the lower the margins for dealers. And I would call the price extremely sensitive. Also the oil price is the result of market interactions, ergo supply and demand. And it doesn't make any sense for the oil producers (mainly OPEC members) to increase oil production (supply) over the supply on the transport market. Thus supply remains scarce and the price is high. It may sound plain, but: It needs some time to build tankers and pipelines.

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 5):
-secondary windfall profits are swept into the pockets of governments that continue to tax petrol-products at basically 400 % ontop the price of crude-oil.In France one liter of gasoline sells at about 1.25 € ( 1,50 $)- but taxes represent 82% of that amount.

In the US you get more than 4 Liters for that and these are the folks crying loudest and using (or should I "wasting"?) the most.

The tax problem goes for the entire EU, maybe that's the reason why our "per capita fossil fuel consumption" is only half of that in the US, although our economic output, as an important metric here, is comparable to theirs. Environmentally fuel taxes are a success story at least in closed markets, so no taxes on kerosene please.

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 5):
So before bitching on the arabs we better bitch on our governments who -despite rise in crude-oil prices-accept an even steeper leveraged price due to higher taxes. None of the european governmenst has suggested to ease the level of taxes on the petrol to ease the pain on our budgets.They are the real maffia gang !!!

Your argument is a adventurous. Let's call it "environmental education" by taxes.

Quoting Moose1226 (Reply 6):
Amazing what people will do when they control enough oil. banghead

Amazing how easy it is to bash stereotypes, isn't it ? ...  sarcastic . But I understand: One needs to have a clear-cut concept of the enemy for orientation in life.


User currently offlinePADSpot From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 14346 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 15):
Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 9):
Well if you have a 50 wives and a 500 kids, you need a A-380 to travel..

thanks for your stupid,idiotic, and worthless twocents post....... butthead

That argument isn't fetched from that afar: The inner circle of the Saudi royal family is estimated to something around 700-2000 people!!! You could fill 3 A380 with just inner circle ...


User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3783 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 14323 times:

An A380 as a corporate/private jet is overkill to say the least. But if you got the money, hell, why not?


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User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 14315 times:

Quoting Dragon-wings (Reply 17):
But don't the airports have to upgrade the taxiways (make them stronger and wider) for the A380? Will airports like NCE and GVA upgrade the taxiways just so they can handle a private A380?

I do not know what kinds of airplanes have been able to t/o and land at those airports.

However, if a private A380 was able to become as light as a fully loaded proposed 74Adv, tell me where all it could go, in fact how far can it go?



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User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7818 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 14219 times:

Several Heads of State have a B747 already.

If it is a case of going one bigger and better...

Some will dispute the former, but IMO there is no doubt that the A380 is bigger than a B747.


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12150 posts, RR: 49
Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 14132 times:

[quote=Lehpron,reply=16]Chances are they already have the funds in their own bank accounts so they do not need to 'borrow' from us, get it?

Yeah I get it every time I fill up my tank, I take it another time...... If you really feel otherwise than your new friend is obviously denial, and not the river.

This from someone who is actually excited about a new Back Street Boys CD, that there tells me a slew more than anything.

New Backstreet Boys Album! (by Lehpron May 1 2005 in Non Aviation)



You can cut the irony with a knife
25 Mham001 : Shipping is not a problem on this continent, in fact last time I owned an oil shipping stock, there was talk of over-capacity. Problem here is lack o
26 Post contains images Iowa744fan : My thoughts exactly! Heck, I would love to just have a BBJ or 319CJ (Sorry, forgot the exact classification). This will definitely be interesting whe
27 Lijnden : If you could afford an A380 because of several billion $'s in the bank, you would buy one as well! Also if you have that kind of money, you must do so
28 SimProgrammer : Count yourself lucky. In the UK it's $6.1332 for (American) Gallon. You get no change from $75 from filling your car up. We buy it by the Liter - soo
29 Post contains images EA CO AS : Well if you have a 50 wives and a 500 kids, you need a A-380 to travel.. So the extreme Mormon fundamentalists will be using their tithing to buy a fe
30 ZRH : This is not absolutly right. Actually an A 380 can land at any airport where a 747 or 777 can land. The runways are not the problem (though some taxi
31 Art : Has it occured to anyone that if oil prices go through the roof, European governments that have added 400% to the price (you say in France that 82% o
32 Chgoflyer : Well said ... I paid 2.78 per gallon today! Do airlines pay taxes in the cost of Jet A?
33 USAFHummer : A 747 has something on the order of 4,200 sq. ft. of usable cabin, space, so I'd guess an A380 has gotta have at least 6000 sq. ft., maybe as much as
34 Propulsion : I agree, but then we in the UK pay nearly $10 for a gallon!!!
35 Post contains images Lehpron : Keep in mind filling up your vehicle's tank is entire your choice (whether or not you 'have to' or 'want to' or 'need to'), but to complain as you di
36 Post contains images SWISSER : that's a good one Indeed, but what can we do about it? maybe slam our capitals to pieces when they don't lower tax!
37 Gigneil : I just want to reiterate what's been said... an A380 can land at any airport a 747 can, and since its not a scheduled flight special arrangements can
38 Post contains links MEA : Here's a suggestion regarding petrol & pricing that I received today which seems to be gaining momentum in Australia: http://www.esvp.asn.au/ This in
39 AirbusCanada : I don’t see anything wrong with owning oilrigs. Oil is not expensive because they owned them but because we greedy westerners keep wasting them all
40 Post contains images Moose1226 : Sad but true... My point was not as much to balme the oil tycoons as much to point out that the west is allowing them to get rich while we (1) overus
41 TCFC424 : I know its non-av, but in regards to someone above who stated the problem was leack of refineries, that is partly true, however there is also a bottle
42 Jafa39 : [ That's quite enough of that mean-mouthed flaming young man! It wasn't anywhere near as worthless as yours, grow up and try to make intelligent comme
43 Centrair : My friend and I joked about what we would do if we had our own A380. It came down to using it as a flying school like the peace boat. $10,000 per stud
44 Nudelhirsch : Funny... Some people complain about waste, while their very own Prez flies in with a whole armada of planes, manages to completely shut down every cit
45 Asteriskceo : True Story. A sad one also.
46 Beaucaire : I have some doubts as to the King of Jordan spending that amount of cash on a hughe toy-plane.Jordan is a relatively poor country with no major oil o
47 Post contains images Udo : Wrong. Blame China's growing economy, or the hundreds of thousands big fat SUVs and so-called trucks which are widely used to drive 500 meters in ord
48 Sebolino : I don't agree. Of course it's annoying to pay, but the real responsibles are those who consume all that oil. Oil is too expensive ? Buy an efficient
49 Sabenapilot : So the first A380VIP -or whatever it is going be called- is more or less confirmed then? I wonder how much will follow in the years to come? I mean, w
50 Beaucaire : Our whole life is already conditioned and geard to consume petrol and petrol derivates.Look at agriculture ( most fertilizers are petrol derivates ),
51 IrishMD11 : The public relations people at Geneva are sure expecting to have some A380 VIP versions coming here soon. One technical hitch though. The runway(05) n
52 Zvezda : Not me. I'd rather have better air quality and higher speed. If I had that sort of money, I'd buy a B787-8, a G550, and a Citation X. The WhaleJet sh
53 Post contains images Nudelhirsch : complained about fuel consumption, then drove 2 blocks to pick up some burgers...
54 Alphafloor : Mmmmh... I guess you meant rwy23 that needed to be strenghtened due to the fact that the road tunnel is just under the touchdown point of this runway
55 Post contains images Glideslope : Don't forget, we have that stuff in the USA also. Think Utah!!
56 NZ1 : Hey dude, what you groaning about. US$2.54 per gallon works out at around NZ0.86c per litre. Well we are paying NZ1.35 per litre, so your gas is just
57 ChrisNH : "Take me to thy Kingdom!!!" "Uh, sir, the plane is too big to land there." Chris in NH
58 Sebolino : It's not a reason not to change it. And it begins by our cars.
59 Post contains images Fbgdavidson : Last time I filled the car up it cost me almost $150...and my girlfriend complains when it costs her $20! :D
60 Cornish : Jesus - how big a tank do you have in your car (or just how expensive is petrol where you live)? I've got a decent sized tank in mine and can fill it
61 Fbgdavidson : Absolutely. The tank is a shade over 22 gallons
62 AvioGuy : this private A380 will most likely goto the Qatar head of state.
63 Boeing Nut : As cool as it will be to see an A380CJ, I don't see it being practical really. As we know, the A380 can't go to as many airports as even the 747. I gu
64 Post contains images Jacobin777 : yes..he's got nother better to spend his money on....."mine is bigger than yours mentality" sure does run pervasive in Arab society (of which I'm par
65 Post contains images RICARIZA : Exactly! LOL, You said it, not me..
66 Dimsum : How about the Sultan of Brunei? Doesn't he already have his own 747 and his daughter has her own A343?
67 Tockeyhockey : the a380 will be able to land at almost any airport in the world. it will not be able to pull into most gates at most airports, but i doubt that this
68 Gary2880 : hm but will it be as much as 2 747s 2 C5s and a globemaster or 2, hmmm i wonder which country uses that to transport the big cheif yeah bet it makes
69 MCIrunway : So you put, what, 25 gallons of gas into your car?
70 Boeing Nut : Physically yes, realistically, no. Most airports don't want anything to do with the A380 at all.
71 Alessandro : Why not, more steady in the air and they can tell the masses that they don´t fly US made plane (despite 35-45% is US made) make perfect sense....
72 Post contains images DAYflyer : Hurry in today for your A-380! The ultimate ego trip.
73 FRAspotter : I'll bet that it is either the Saudi royal family or the UAE government.... However, this is just a guess.
74 Fbgdavidson : Read above post. Just over 22 gallons
75 Flighttime : A word of advise to our American friends. Never, ever, EVER complain about the price of petrol in mixed company!
76 Moose1226 : I don't think he needs a 747, either...
77 Dan2002 : He only uses 1 VC-25 and 1 C5 or C17 at a time when he visits CLE, it may be different in places that require more security, im not sure. -Dan
78 Moose1226 : America does, but we're not getting too rich off it, are we? If we were getting so rich off the oil, maybe Bush could fix the deficit he created. Ple
79 Post contains images SATX : Go look for a 'real mafia gang' and then come back and say that. Well, that's unfortunate. Too true! Well, yes, I would hope some folks could rise ab
80 Post contains images PADSpot : Ehmm. Actually not. Most especially regional airports would love to have an occasional visit by a A380. It doesn't cost them any money, but would cre
81 Jafa39 : I'm 44 young man and if you care to look, your post got deleted, I think that settles the matter.
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