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Cancelled Airbuses?  
User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3772 posts, RR: 13
Posted (9 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 5137 times:

Boeing has had a few planned A/C that never materiealized. The three-engined B747-300 and the 707-700 comes to mind.

But what planned Airbus A/C have never entered service? I can only think of the A340-200X, of which only on A/C was ordered, and wasn't even delivered.

Cheers
Mats


Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
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User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 859 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 5128 times:

The 340-400M comes to mind, military transport craft IIRC.

Micke//SE



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User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5186 posts, RR: 33
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 5117 times:

Dont forget the good ol' Boeing SST.......


That'll teach you
User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3772 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 5098 times:

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 1):
The 340-400M comes to mind, military transport craft IIRC.

Aren't you talking about the A400M? Which has not been cancelled. Check the Airbus website for more information.

Cheers
Mats



Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 20 hours ago) and read 5071 times:

Quoting Doona (Thread starter):
The three-engined B747-300 and the 707-700 comes to mind.

A 3-engined 747 ? How would that work ? And what was the 707-700 supposed to be like ?


User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1813 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 20 hours ago) and read 5046 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 4):
A 3-engined 747 ? How would that work ?

Perhaps like a DC-10 or MD-11? Or even possibly like the 727.



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User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4166 posts, RR: 36
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 20 hours ago) and read 5021 times:

The A340-400M was a different concept than the A400M, no similarities whatsoever. 3-engined 747: looked like the DC-10 but with a hump.


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User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 859 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 20 hours ago) and read 5018 times:

Doona:

Just read Flygrevyn about the A340-400M from 1995, and it was to transport military troops, A has the A400M prop in making, guess they just "renamed" it.

Ha det bra

Micke//SE  Smile



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User currently offlineLeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 20 hours ago) and read 4949 times:

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Reply 6):
3-engined 747: looked like the DC-10 but with a hump.

So a bit like the lovely green 'aircraft' for fire fighting training at LHRBig grin


User currently onlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12973 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 17 hours ago) and read 4687 times:

First of all, cancelled would imply these things were sold to customers then withdrawn, which isn't really true. They were proposals that never came to fruition, so I would say withdrawn instead of cancelled. It's hard to cancel something you never really start.

Anyhow, weren't there various proposals for A330 variants designed to fill the A300/A310 market that never came to fruition? LightSaber has posted about them, called A305 or something else? On the Boeing side, there are several proposed 747s like 747-500 and 747-600 that never came to fruition, not to mention Sonic Cruiser.



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User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 17 hours ago) and read 4665 times:

Quoting Doona (Thread starter):
The three-engined B747-300 and the 707-700 comes to mind.

The three holed 747 was a design study and never offered to the airlines

IIRC the 707-700 also falls into the same category.


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 15 hours ago) and read 4494 times:

The Sonic Cruiser from Boeing, concept A305 from Airbus, the LR A340-2000 (1), A330-100, 330-200F still on hold, 2.5 engined B777 (1 thrust generating APU), 737-900ER (?)

User currently offlineYULMRS From France, joined Mar 2005, 195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 15 hours ago) and read 4475 times:

Quoting Doona (Reply 3):
Aren't you talking about the A400M? Which has not been cancelled. Check the Airbus website for more information.

I think everybody here is talking about the A350 ... Will it be cancelled ? The A400M will fly, lots of European governments wants this A/C to replace their C130.



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User currently offlineChazzerguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 277 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 15 hours ago) and read 4458 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 4):
A 3-engined 747 ? How would that work ?

Picture a 747 front end grafted to an L-1011 back end...

It was basically little more than a design study in the early development of the 747, and briefly was re-energized when Boeing realized they needed to compete with the L-1011 and DC-10... Instead, they decided to develop the 747SP, since a three-hole 747 would have required a huge amount of re-engineering and thus a great deal of expense...

It's touched on a bit here:

http://www.747sp.com/Explained.asp


User currently offlineGrantcv From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 430 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 14 hours ago) and read 4358 times:

I can think of plenty aircraft that never came to fruition that aren't mentioned here - mostly Boeings.

757-100
767-100
777-100
7J7
MD12


User currently offlineDiesel1 From UK - Wales, joined Mar 2001, 1639 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 14 hours ago) and read 4289 times:

For the sake of accuracy....

Quoting Doona (Thread starter):
Boeing has had a few planned A/C that never materiealized. The three-engined B747-300... comes to mind.

The 747-300 did get made and had four engines....



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User currently offlineChazzerguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 277 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 14 hours ago) and read 4267 times:

Quoting Doona (Thread starter):
The three-engined B747-300

Actually, the three engined 747 was referred to as the 747-3... Not the same thing as the 747-300.


User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2038 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 8 hours ago) and read 4044 times:

When the 757 and 767 programme was launched in the 70s, wasn't there also going to be a 3 engined version (called 777), I guess back in the days before ETOPs etc for long distance flights.


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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17190 posts, RR: 66
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 6 hours ago) and read 3908 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 4):
A 3-engined 747 ? How would that work ?

Like this:

http://www.rosboch.net/various/B747-300_Concept_with_three_engines.jpg


Cancelled 707 variants:

- 707-520 Reengined 120 Reengined 120 with RR Conway 10 engines.
- 707-520B 320B stretch 2' stretch of the 320B with JT3D-5A turbofans.
- 707-620 120 Stretch 10' stretch of the 120 with Bristol 511 engines.
- 707-720 320 with IGW Increased Gross Weight variant of the 320 with Bristol 511 engines.
- 707-320-101 320 with enlarged lower lobe 320 with an enlarged lower lobe for passenger seating on a lower deck forward of the wing and more cargo aft of the main gear.
- 707-520-X Double decker development Double decker with low wings. Length 191'7".
- 707-520-2X 520-X shrink Double decker with low wings. Shorter than the above.
- 707-520-X3 Double decker development Double decker with high wings. Length 144'2". Span 142'5".
- 735 and 738 Swing tail cargo variants 735 had an upward swinging tail and 738 a sideways swinging one. Both enabled cargo loading through the resultant opening.


Cancelled 727 variants:

- 727-100M Military Military version of the 727C with possible roles as Assault, staff and command transport, tanker, medevac and carrier onboard delivery(!)
- 727-300 Further Stretch 220 inch stretch of the -200 for passenger service with modified wing, bogie main gear and wide fan engines. Cancelled in favor of the 757.
- 787-300 Stretch Twin Project to make an evolved 727, with twin engines and winglets. The center engine was removed and a tail similar to that of late model MD-80s ("flathead screwdriver") was added. Superficially similar to the MD-80, but with the 727 fuselage width.

http://www.rosboch.net/various/787-300_Proposal_to_redesign_727.jpg



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 6 hours ago) and read 3890 times:

Quoting Keesje (Reply 11):
737-900ER (?)

The 737-900X has not been canceled.

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 17):
I guess back in the days before ETOPs etc for long distance flights.

The 767/A300/A310 started hoping water not long after their introduction (well, it took the A300 a bit of time)



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User currently offlineAirbusCanada From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 5 hours ago) and read 3860 times:

ONly think i can remember about airbus is
330-100 and
340-600F


User currently offlineIwok From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 2 hours ago) and read 2858 times:

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 18):
Like this:

Starlion, where do you get all your info and pictures. Its amazing what you have in your library!

iwok


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12341 posts, RR: 18
Reply 22, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2325 times:
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Quoting Keesje (Reply 11):
737-900ER (?)

Hasn't been cancelled, hasn't been launched yet but some airlines are very interested in the -900ER


User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3673 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2002 times:
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I'm surprised no one has brough up the A305.

User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1967 times:

I, for one, wouldn't have minded seeing that 787-300 Stretch Twin Project. I suppose liking the 727 kinda tints my views. So basically this was dumped in favor of the 737NNG?

fluffy

P.S. Starlionblue, that's some collection you've got there...


25 Kottan : I once saw a scaled modell of a four engined Beluga based on the A340-Concept. Greetings from rainy Zürich. Frank
26 Jwenting : Wrong. That is the 787 which is well underway. It wasn't cancelled, remember that an artist concept doesn't an aircraft make.
27 PM : Was that the same thing as the ill-fated A340-8000 (and yes, I do mean 8-thousand!)? Now that would have been a stunning aeroplane to see. Gorgeous!
28 Post contains links and images Starlionblue : Yes. Thx guys. It's all just pathological airliner information hoarding from various sources Some of it is on permanent display here (shameless self
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