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Further A380 Test Flights.  
User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8231 times:

Probably a dumb question but is the A380 now flying regular tests, or will every flight be an "event" during the testing schedule?

I can understand that maybe there will be a period of data accumulation following the first flight but will subsequent ones be done "as and when" or is there a published shcedule one can look at just in case you happen to be down Toulouse way and will each one be announced?

I'm thinking maybe it's all business as usual for the workers now.

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User currently offlineAirboeing From France, joined Apr 2005, 223 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8176 times:

Well, all I know is that the second take-off is scheduled for Wednesday 1:30 pm (local time), and the flight should last 4 to 5 hours.
Third flight is to take place Saturday, don't know the hour.

I guess that as the time passes, the flights will increase in frequency, and being more casual, the "event" thing will disappear...

Till end of 2006, there should have been 2500 flight hours with 4 test aircrafts...so there is plenty of possibility to catch one

[Edited 2005-05-04 00:35:13]

[Edited 2005-05-04 00:36:39]


Some times my English is purely fonatiks...
User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8112 times:

Thanks mate, If you get any news relating to Nov 06, please drop us the nod as i may just divert to Toulouse for a look.

Jafa


User currently offlineMark_D. From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 1447 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 8024 times:

See, now this is an A380 thread subject around here that's actually worth reading  Smile

Merci pour les infos!


User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 35
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7991 times:

I think the good news is, spotters world-wide will have plenty of chances to see the aeroplane later on.

Test programmes for new aeroplanes can amount to a couple of thousand hours and include subjecting it to extremes of temperature and all kinds of different weather conditions. The best way to do this is to fly it over typical airline routes worldwide. And it will make equal sense to land the A380 at those airports that have already widened their runways to accommodate it.

As I understand it, four prototypes are being built altogether (two of which will eventually be sold to airlines). My guess is that, between the four of them, they will be visiting a lot of airports towards the end of this year, and early next.

Places they are just about certain to visit include CDG, LHR, JFK, LAX, SFO, O'Hare, Melbourne, Sydney, Changi, Bangkok, Dubai etc.



"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards.." - Leonardo da Vinci
User currently offlineDeskPilot From Australia, joined Apr 2004, 767 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7975 times:

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 4):
Places they are just about certain to visit include



Quoting NAV20 (Reply 4):
Melbourne

I'll be there to see that !



By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?
User currently offlineMonteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 28
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7971 times:

Quoting Airboeing (Reply 1):
Well, all I know is that the second take-off is scheduled for Wednesday 1:30 pm (local time), and the flight should last 4 to 5 hours.

Anyone know what the purpose of today's flight is going to be?

When are they going to start doing 4 point hesitation rolls and loops?  tongue 



It's a beautiful night to fly like a phoenix...
User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7914 times:

Quoting Monteycarlos (Reply 6):
Anyone know what the purpose of today's flight is going to be?

Not sure, but I would take a guess that the take off weight will be higher then 421 tonnes it was last week.


User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7828 times:

A little off topic but whats going on with the other A380s that have been assembled?


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User currently offlineMark_D. From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 1447 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7825 times:

Bill142-- but I would take a guess that the take off weight will be higher

Yup that's the deal , among loads of other things too of course, like re-checking all the strain-guage and test flight parameter data and so on.

Last week the guys from Europe and especially from Toulouse reporting in here were saying that takeoff weight for second flight would be upped to about 560 tons.

To me this second flight is from an engineering standpoint more significant than the first simply because of the greater takeoff weight alone, they're pushing the thing that much closer to full load so it would be interesting to see not just how all parts of the plane handle it but also how all the flight parameters compare with last week's. Huge amount of data to pore over afterwards, even more investigative and fine-tuning work now than before since now there's already a baseline dataset.


And there'll be way way less global media spotlighting and frenzy and people's emotions running around so high and all, so that alone will provide for an easier ambiance to get more engineering and data-collection work done.

Plus I guess if second-flight does occur in just a few hours' time then those rumours and rumblings of first-flight landing (gear) problems if they did occur may not be all that serious.

[Edited 2005-05-04 07:55:22]

User currently offlineAirboeing From France, joined Apr 2005, 223 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7680 times:

Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 2):
Thanks mate, If you get any news relating to Nov 06, please drop us the nod as i may just divert to Toulouse for a look.

Of course ! And it would be a pleasure to welcome anyone here...

Quoting Mark_D. (Reply 3):
Merci pour les infos!

De rien.. I guess this is what this forum is made for...at least among other things...

Quoting Mark_D. (Reply 9):
those rumours and rumblings of first-flight landing (gear) problems if they did occur may not be all that serious.

Hopefully, engineers can solve the problem of a not working lock in a trap door in a week time...



Some times my English is purely fonatiks...
User currently offlineMark_D. From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 1447 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 7536 times:

Seems the weather's okay today so the flight may be set to go shortly:

http://www.ladepeche.com/aff_art.asp?Ref=200505041797&Rub=sud


User currently offlineMonteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 28
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 7450 times:

Quoting Mark_D. (Reply 11):
Seems the weather's okay today so the flight may be set to go shortly:

Any live video for this one? LOL. I wish there were!



It's a beautiful night to fly like a phoenix...
User currently offlineNomad From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 7389 times:

Do we know if there is any change in the crew for this second flight ?
Nomad  Smile


User currently offlineFLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7428 posts, RR: 57
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 7340 times:

The A380's second flight will take off today May 4th, early this afternoon.

The third flight will be on saturday and 3 other flights are programmed next week.


User currently offlineAirboeing From France, joined Apr 2005, 223 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 7281 times:

Translation of the article from Mark-D :

Quoting ladepeche:
...L'Airbus géant devrait décoller vers 13 h 30...

Take off around 1:30pm... just now Big grin

Quoting ladepeche:
Cette fois-ci, la durée de vol sera plus longue, près de cinq heures, selon un plan qui demeure confidentiel. L'Airbus devrait naviguer à une altitude comprise entre 10 000 et 13 000 pieds (3 000 à 3 900 mètres), et à la vitesse moyenne de 750 km par heure...

This time the plane should fly during 5 hours, on an confidential route. Flight altitude would be 10 000 to 13 000 ft (3 000 to 3 900 m), with an average speed of 750 km/h...

Quoting ladepeche:
Seront présents dans le cockpit les six membres de l'équipage du premier vol...

On board are the same six crew member as in the first flight...



Some times my English is purely fonatiks...
User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3836 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 7232 times:

Can anybody confirm this... does this mean that the second flight is happening RIGHT NOW?


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User currently offlineKnoxibus From France, joined Aug 2007, 260 posts, RR: 23
Reply 17, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 7135 times:

Second flight is happening right now (well I did not see take off yet but I know the door is closed since 1.00 pm local time). Should last 4 to 5 hours just for a general aircraft check.

Third flight scheduled Saturday this week, and the fourth is on Monday.

From next week, the aircraft is going to fly at least 4 times a week up until le Bourget air show.

They will start have new crew coming in gradually from these flights.

MSN 0004, which is the second aircraft to validate flight enveloppe and attitude in general should have its first power-on today. It should start flying end of May/June I believe.

The good chance for the moment to see the A380 somewhere else than Toulouse, Paris air show, Istres Air Force Base and Hamburg (cabin fitting for MSN 0002 and 0007 during summer) will be rare.

Only from January will MSN 0002 and 0004 will start the early long flights/ route proving around the world, while MSN 0001 and 0004 will do the harsh environments testing (Tunisia, Spin, Canada or Siberia and Iceland).



No matter what anybody tells you, words and ideas can change the world.
User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5296 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 7035 times:

Quoting Knoxibus (Reply 17):
Istres Air Force Base

OMG, I'm going ! Tell me when they are going there please!
I assume it will be for touch and go's?


User currently offlineKnoxibus From France, joined Aug 2007, 260 posts, RR: 23
Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6974 times:

JUST TOOK OFF, still very impressive to see.

It went way faster than during the first flight but oh my God how everythibg looks tiny around when it's taking off!!!!!!

Quoting KL911 (Reply 18):
OMG, I'm going ! Tell me when they are going there please!
I assume it will be for touch and go's?

Scheduled for December for the low speed take off (some ass rubbing), and the real RTOs.



No matter what anybody tells you, words and ideas can change the world.
User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5296 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6936 times:

Quoting Knoxibus (Reply 19):
Scheduled for December for the low speed take off (some ass rubbing), and the real RTOs.

December?? What do I do till then? It's impossible, I'll send an email to Airbus.

I know Istres has one of the longest runways in France, but why use it for a low speed takeoff? You use less runway for that, not more, is it? ( What's an RTO)

KL911


User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2759 posts, RR: 57
Reply 21, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6808 times:

Wow, saw it take off, at approximately 14:35 local time (Toulouse). As already said by Knoxibus, it was just as impressive to see as last Wednesday.


Long live Aer Lingus!
User currently offlineCURLYHEADBOY From Italy, joined Feb 2005, 940 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6086 times:

Quoting Knoxibus (Reply 17):
will do the harsh environments testing (Tunisia,Spin, Canada or Siberia and Iceland).

You meant Spain didn't you? 

Glad to hear the big beauty's back in the air, anyone knows the ETA? Some of you guys that witnessed the T/O can tell us if the gear was retracted on takeoff and what was the flaps setting?

Thanks!  

[Edited 2005-05-04 16:55:10]


If God had wanted men to fly he would have given them more money...
User currently offlineYYZYYT From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5331 times:

Quoting Knoxibus (Reply 17):
harsh environments testing (Tunisia, Spin, Canada or Siberia and Iceland).

Well that got MY attention - is there a chance it will come to Canada? If so when and where can we find out the details?


User currently offlineNomad From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4182 times:

Did anyone catch her landing and what time did she get down ? Was it as smooth as the first ? Tell me someone I really want to know A BLOW BY BLOW ACCOUNT !!!! Don't you just find it so damn annoying when on the 2nd flight you get zilch info yet the first was everywhere !
Seriously any news would be appreciated.
Nomad  Smile


25 Jamesbuk : so does the a380 only have a license to land at blagnac or can it land at like heathrow or what i dont get it
26 Lnglive1011yyz : It's a brand new aircraft! They're still TESTING it. They won't be taking the plane to other landing sites until they are certain that things are wor
27 Post contains images Bassie2010 : Does anybody know what Airbus is doing with its static A380 model (which will be tortured to death ) at the moment? Will the release any footage any t
28 Post contains images Ilovenz : Airbus needs to publish a schedule for spotters. I wonder if we will know ahead of time if they will be coming to ORD??? If anyone knows, keep me post
29 Chuffy : I'm in Toulouse end of Sept. A schedule for spotters would be a treat.
30 Post contains images Jafa39 : Make that at least two of us!!
31 Post contains links Knoxibus : Go to the post dedicated to the 2nd flight, I gave a link to a video of the landing. See here
32 Airboeing : Hi Today the A380 took-off runway 14R, at 11:30am. This shows the confidence the guys at Airbus now have concerning the take-offs : enough confidence
33 Toulouse : Ha Airboeing... know the feeling too well. For months, while driving towards Seilh/Grenade just after E.Leclerc Blagnac by the A380 site with all the
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